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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 2nd Dissociation

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This month's (March 2011) Dazed & Confused MAgazine in the UK has a feature on research chemicals. The journalist tries out MXE and talks to a user of it. Painted in a very harm reductive tone and well done I thought.


'DRUGS: RESEARCH CHEMICALS
A hands-on investigation into the world of 'psychonauts', as our man risks ego death and psychological catastrophe in his attempt to understand those who act as guinea pigs for newly synthesized chemical compound.'


I don't like the idea of media coverage concerning MXE "spider sensors on"
 
I thinj perhaps a couple of people have said smoking cigarettes on this to be a bit strange. I am a heavy smoker, and I tend to smoke more on drugs. Any more input?

I smoke rollies though, and on acid it took me half an hour to roll because I kept forgetting what the little peice of paper in my hand was and what I was supposed to do with it. If mxe is as confusing and impairing as some make out how well am I likely to get on? Sorry if my post is lacking in the grammar department, im using my phone. Pain int arse.

Nicotine feels damn strong on MXE, like small bumps of MXE potentiate pretty much any drug...
 
This is NOT, repeat, NOT a medical expertise: Serotonergigs are quite sketchy with MXE. But as SSRIS don't release extra 5HT unlike MDMA, MDAI ect. your neurones are likely to be somewhat more "protected" from SS toxity here. My best guess is to watch the half-life of your AD-Medication and taper it off to at least 1/8 of sustained dose (1/2^3), and then titrate MXE slowly in 10mg speps/hour

Hello fellas, been a long time lurker since last thread started, and now finally got myself to order 500mg sample from trusted vendors, hopefully it will arrive next week, and i'll post opinions and experiances of it then.

However i do have one question, i quitted SSRi's 3 days ago (which shouldn't affect anything anymore one week later,) Altough, i have been using Singulair (Montelukast) for my so called asthma. I recently started getting interested in DMX aswell (lol) just to have a bit feeling what dissoactives seem like, but i stumbled upon thread which say that Montelukast and DMX may create Serotinin Syndrome, (altough some people say it actually boosts it).

Now the question is, will singulair montelukast have any affect on MXE? Some people even said they tried it with SSRI which is alot stronger serotinin drug, so i doubt singulair would have any affect with MXE? Just clearing my mind up so i dont get paranoid while tripping that "IM GONNA DIE I GOT SEROTININ SYNDROME OMG I NEED TO CALL AMBULANCE" kinds of things.

Pardon me for my poor english skills and weird sentences, its 6am here and been drinking abit xD

Greetings from finland, keep the discussion going guys! <3%)%)
 
When I smoke cigarettes on mxe I mostly get a huge delayed nicotine rush, and i'm basically extra fucked up for 5 minutes. But yeah the desire to smoke on mxe is mostly about weed, that also basically works like a NOS button, couple tokes and BOOM you sink back in.
 
This is interesting. I am sure now that I wont experience any real negative effects from smoking. I will find out tomorrow in any case, I will post a trip report also.

If I experience a lessoned desire to smoke then it's good for my wallet anyway! I just remembered that some report a kind of potentiation of nicotine on dxm. Is this a common occurance with dissociatives? I can't say I experienced this myself in any case.

Thanks all for the info :)
 
I find dissociatives in general seem to greatly reduce the desire to smoke. Or maybe it's just that you lose the ability to work out how to smoke. This particular dissociative has the usual effect - cigarettes are either too confusing or too irrelevant to bother with for a while. Not noticed any particular unusual effect from smoking on the odd occasion I've thought to roll a cig myself though. Spliffs always go down a treat with dissociatives on the other hand :)
 
Aw Shambles... how easy do you find it to roll on dissociatives, and classical psychedelics also?

This is just a sort of point of interest for me. I'm a clumsy fuck at the best of times haha.
 
Can be a bit of a challenge on ketamine in particular. Well, hard to remember how, what, where or why cigs are maybe. Less hard to make sense of on MXE, I find. On acid, mushies and so on I tend to either get totally distracted by... everything and anything so takes forever, or alternatively spend an hour obsessively rolling a pile of cigs "in case I need them" and then deciding I don't want to smoke them. If I could trip 24/7 I'd probably have quite smoking by default by now.
 
Can be a bit of a challenge on ketamine in particular. Well, hard to remember how, what, where or why cigs are maybe. Less hard to make sense of on MXE, I find. On acid, mushies and so on I tend to either get totally distracted by... everything and anything so takes forever, or alternatively spend an hour obsessively rolling a pile of cigs "in case I need them" and then deciding I don't want to smoke them. If I could trip 24/7 I'd probably have quite smoking by default by now.

On psyches the smell of cigarettes is particularly repulsive.

Methox gives me a metallic, greeny yellowy musky smell in my nose. When I smoke a cigarette, it just mingles with this smell to create a rather bizarre odour.
 
whoooah

well i got 500mg delivered today. messy is one word more to follow no doubt. xhrist its pretty pokey isnt it,.
 
Post some trip stories! I've read every page in every forum about this, now im just spamming f5 everyday to hear something new about this, think i'm already became obsessed with the drug, even tho i haven't even touched it, hahaha! Hopefully i wont fiend everything once i get my bag
 
I dunno I think the popularity of the thread alone proves how amazing it is!
Will be trying my first mdma+mxe combo at a rave tommorow, will post a report on how that went.
Peace out
 
Mini trip report: MET and Methoxetamine

I used methoxetamine again last night after finding out class was canceled today. I definitely hit the manic state. Nothing overtly delusional or too dangerous went down, but damn, the surge of ecstasy had me literally gripping the arms of the recliner and holding on like it was for my life! The rebirth experience I posted about earlier after my second time using methoxetamine was merely a preamble to this.

I started with 45 mg (IM), and about 40 minutes in IMd 25 mg MET (a fairly low dose) to see what it would do. The MET altered the high quite a bit, tuning out the dissociative static, but after that I didn't even so much as get closed or open eye visuals. Instead I felt very "aware" but blank, like all the lights in a sprawling fun house had flashed on but none of the gadgetry was whirling to life as expected, leaving just an eerie bright space of silence and stillness.

At t+1 hr 30 min I IMd a 15 mg booster of methoxetamine and vaporized ~1mg of jwh-018. That was the tipping point. A boiling energy swelled up in my chest over maybe five minutes and eventually brimmed at the top of my skull. My ego felt tangible, given physical definition as it displaced the roiling waters that were now submerging it. I felt I could guide out the building pressure in a number of directions, and that indeed I would need to eventually, but I was worried that if I chose the channel of release incorrectly the force would be so much it could not be contained, and that terrible destruction might be left in its wake. At the same time, however, there was an undeniable thrill in sensing that I had some say in how the monster would be loosed.

I decided to make the effort by listening to a song that had been a staple of my DXM/ondasetron/LSD trips last summer. When I say "decided" and "effort" I don't mean to say I was sure anything would happen at all in response to my decision. I don't really have experience with building and releasing psychological energy or whatever it was, not like this, not anything so palpable. I just knew the song had structured similar rapturous swells in the past, though at that time it was more responsible for creating the swell rather than channeling its release as I hoped it would now. I had to do something though, and it was the best I could think of.

I'm still processing what transpired over the next 4 minutes; I can say, though, that it was a manic eruption of joy that shook me to the depths of my being. As the torrent of ecstasy raged at its banks I was hyperventilating and could feel my heart beating in my ears while the music flowed into them. It was physically very intense, something I could imagine killing a man of 60. I held onto the arms of the chair like a flood was literally washing over me.

After the song was over I was left with a sense of rawness and relief, like a burn victim slipping into a bathtub of aloe gel. I sat for a half hour or so in silence, half stunned that what I thought would happen actually did, half giddy like a little boy the night before his birthday at what might lie ahead. I'm 13 years into this lifestyle and the possibilities for awe have never seemed so boundless.
 
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Sounds sweet psood!

3 pot cookies, a cheeba chew, and 25mg plugged have me nowhere near anything as phantasmagoric as your experience...

And having read that, I'm left with a burning desire to reach such a state...oh how i wish I had my opiates :(
 
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