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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread-10th Dose-Addiction? But I'm only on it 24/7...

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I do wish I could do MXE more often, so I guess its addicting in that regard but I've been able to limit myself to at LEAST 2 weeks in between each dose. But then again I'm buying it off a friend and I always just buy the amount i'm about to take.
 
Jesusgreen said:
I find good quality MXE has effects even as low as 5mg, though at that dose it's purely a mild stimulant/anti-depressant. 10-15mg provide good effects for me though, just it's not very dissociative at those doses. I find at that sort of dose I became very motivated, talkative, feel really good, music sounds a lot better - but I'm not impaired as I am with higher doses :)

Also this is with sublingual. With oral I need a little more, add 5-7mg to those doses. I also tend to need a little more when snorting this for some reason to get a similar level of euphoria and positive effects.
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This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ <3

that original UK stuff was.... uh... wow...

The usa stuff and the uK stuff still taste somewhat the same to me but there's a difference in direction of the highs.

I realize there is a tolerance issue but I wasn't getting much tolerance until the ban. then all the sudden I had a big tolerance? say whaaaat.

5mg alergy tests were easy to feel. 10-15mg had me whistling an doing housework. 35 had me half way to a hole and quite wonky... 60-70 I'd be in space...

that one night I kept redosing in the hole and made it way up to 200mg on the good stuff was the night I flipped out and changed forever lol
pretty sure I was close to if not having some sort of heart spasms during that high. Violent body shakes... etc. Overdose breakthrough type thing.
 
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loremipsum said:
you had 3-meo-pcp maybe? 10mg MXE is even with zero tolerance barely anything.

there is definitly different qualities around. but so drastic it's hard to imagine. i have stuff i need 120 to hole and another batch where 80 is enough for a pretty wild ride.
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First take on it, 10mg yes.

30mg later.

All drugs affect everyone differently depending on variable including weight, diet, metabolism, etc.

I would have known a pcp analogue. Trust me. This was GCMS tested (by me) quite pure MXE.
 
Am I the only person here using it specifically for pain relief? The antidepressant and occasional spiritual feelings are lovely side-effects, but the reason I use it nearly daily is to treat painful neuropathy in my legs, and it works wonders for it. I take about 30mg every 4-6 hours during the day (a higher dose than any newcomer should use for therapeutic effect because my tolerance has increased after taking it for 7 months) It is a far preferable treatment to alternatives like opioid pain relief which have a physical dependence among other undesirable effects. The MXE brain is lucid compared to the fogginess of the opiated brain. I have also noticed that the 'wonky' effects of MXE like wobbly motor control and speech have completely disappeared with continued used while the therapeutic effects remain strong. This may be against harm reduction guidelines but I will probably be taking it regularly until something better comes along.
 
RIGHT MOAN TIME: ever since the UK ban, the quality has been gone down. right now its so bad, the EU stuff is has exactly the same "fishy/spunk" taste as the branded "k-mex" rubbish the shady people are flogging in the UK....Zero effect, all the mong, non the trip...lasts for hours of feeling like a retard with mud in your veins, no trip, no high, no mania, sedated mongy crappy feeling....

exactly like the "K-mex" rubbish being sold.....

also. Ive noticed that the packaging from EU and UK suddenly has become the same...

...Im suspecting that all sources are actually just one big company now, and were being flogged shit with the hype of the due "2MK" about to be sold.....

anythoughts?

edit: the currant shit stuff has a duration of FOREVER. it used to be a 45min hole than a few hours to sleep. now its mong, +12hrs with no desirable effects. I'm going to get some of the branded shit again, because its half the cost but i swear its the same thing. crap. I think the scene over the last few years has produced some "big palyers" and its more or less the same bullshit drug cartel mentality from the illegal drugs trade creeping in. This is legal industry being played like the illegal trade. .. ruining the Legal trade trade...big players are in on this mark my words ... for the worst


anyone else getting plain rubbish sent to them as MXE?

twice the cost same shit. (not sure if thats allowed, but im making a point that its the same shit please edit if i crossed a line)
 
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vortech said:
Am I the only person here using it specifically for pain relief? The antidepressant and occasional spiritual feelings are lovely side-effects, but the reason I use it nearly daily is to treat painful neuropathy in my legs, and it works wonders for it. I take about 30mg every 4-6 hours during the day (a higher dose than any newcomer should use for therapeutic effect because my tolerance has increased after taking it for 7 months) It is a far preferable treatment to alternatives like opioid pain relief which have a physical dependence among other undesirable effects. The MXE brain is lucid compared to the fogginess of the opiated brain. I have also noticed that the 'wonky' effects of MXE like wobbly motor control and speech have completely disappeared with continued used while the therapeutic effects remain strong. This may be against harm reduction guidelines but I will probably be taking it regularly until something better comes along.
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If it starts losing efficacy (I mean, if you start increasing your dose for tolerance or something) can you update us, along with all the details of your regimen up to that point? It would be good info to have, though personally I'd hope you keep it at the same level if possible, and merely supplement it with other techniques of pain management.
 
I will be reporting back as I go along. I'm not rigid with the regimen. Dosing is about creating a functional envelope integrated into the fabric of daily activity. This means I will dose a little in the morning to temper pain sensations. Throughout the day, depending on my situation and intentions, I re-dose as needed for optimal functionality. On days where I have the evening open, I like create a cresting experience, thus dose a larger amount in the early evening than earlier in the day, say, around 50mg. A larger dose like that will take me to good places. I make sure that if I redose again before bed that it is a smaller amount and at least a few hours before sleep to allow a gentler release of the envelope. I think I'm averaging 100-120 mg/day.
 
I think I may have properly m-holed last night for the first time (several somewhat lesser experiences).. Could anyone relate to tell me this is indeed a hole? I know it could have been stronger, and next time I will go for that...

T+ 1:00 - Sublingual 60mg, held under tongue for 10 minutes.

T+ 2:20 - Insufflate 25mg

T+ 2:50 - Insufflate 20mg

I was pretty much just on the computer browsing the net and being ultra chatty with long-lost friends for about 3 hours. However, after 3 hours, I decided to lay down and meditate. I immediately had very strong will over focus of thought, and let my mind wander without any conscious constraint. The first thing I noticed was the depth I could push my consciousness, losing the feeling of breath within a few minutes; which scared me for a few times until I remembered it was near-impossible to suffocate to death while meditating, and to just be ok with this odd-feeling of breathlessness.
After I was in the non-breath state, I began to see a vast array of vivid visuals, ranging from blurry to acutely detailed. My thoughts were at first a dark purple hue, like you often get when you look at something bright and then at something dark. Except they were more intelligently going about, sometimes resembling foliage or humanoid faces. Time lost most meaning, this is where I felt a higher dose would have put me a bit farther off, my ego was still dangling in the core of my head, and my attempts to push my consciousness out of the body completely only slightly worked. My thoughts then moved through the color spectrum, which was MOST enjoyable, I had a grin going on somewhere in my head. Started with that dark purple, then moved to dark green, then a most beautiful serene green, then a range of oceanic blue hues. At some points I kept almost not-believing the beauty of my thoughts, and I began to hypnagogically visually see my distractive thoughts. Images of the video game I was playing earlier in the night, and then of myself in 3rd person on the bed, began to fog my undistracted color-ride. I could always get myself back into trance, but it amazed me how absolutely alien the world of my open-eyes felt after coming out of a deep hole, I can see why people get so into this stuff. Ive only just taken MXE and drank before, never having a true deep hole like this. Soon enough that easy-will to push myself into a deep meditative-state faded, and I borderlessly fell into sleep, and then vivid dreams of familiar surroundings and personas. MXE, what's up... I now have a greater urge to take a hole further, as well as get ahold of Ketamine and try that for the first time. :) safe travels bluelight.
 
@omik:
That could be counted as a hole.

I consider myself in a hole when i get the physical sensation that my body moves...my legs are getting stretched...my whole body gets twisted/twirled etc. .
..and when i close my eyes, after a while i see very vivid 3d worlds (partially in hd, sometimes it' s really stunning how real it looks) which are for me mostly abstract and dark.
Only one time i flew over awesome landscapes in nature.

And i feel the movement like it would reaply happen.
When i'm in a deep hole i can controll the direction.
 
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I've used MXE on and off for a few years, from UK, US, and continental retail sources. I've experienced a pretty remarkable difference in subjective effects ... within the same bag. I'm not saying there's not cuts/substitutions/impure synths, but I am saying that stating the country of perceived origin along with your personal experience means almost nothing. Publish some GCMS or other instrumentally verified results and tie that to specific retailers in the proper forums for it and disseminate the results through a trusted chain of private messages because that's the only thing that's going to be reliable at the consumer level. All this unsupplemented speculation about the intrinsic physical qualities of MXE spreads misperceptions about what people can use to rely on for making purchasing decisions.
 
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^Yeah even I can relate to that, I only had mxe about 7 times total now, all from the same bag and some experiences were very similar to others but 1 or 2 were very different, despite the same dose.
The biggest difference is always in my perception of music, that's really super strange, the first two times I did it I didn't like music at all, it sounded weird and kindof "low" - like when you turn down high frequencies and increase low - while the 3rd time I totally fell in love with headphones for a good hour, everything was sharp as on mephedrone (imo the best drug for music). What it always does is make me insensitive to noise, I can stand very noisy sound what would normally be annoying.

I think if you take anything more than just threshold dose for slight mood lift, always count that it can be unpredictable.
 
^ Yes, effects on music were really unpredictable for me, too, during my first few trials with the substance. (Later, after extensive experience, the effects seem to have stabilized.) Sometimes the music would sound very delicate, smooth, ethereal, and beautiful. Other times, the music completely lost all its "soul" and became like noise, almost like a lesser ape might hear music. (Now, the effect tends toward the former rather than the latter. Luckily. %))
 
^ not true... otherwise every pill would have binders and such listed... all the pills have binders yet only the "drug" is listed...

"Unknown" means its a chemical not yet named... ie new rc's etc
 
^What does "unidentified" constitute in this test, then? Certainly it has to do with the composition of the submitted substance and not a new RC etc, or else listing as "unidentified" is redundant. They don't bother with identifying the chemical composition of binders in E pills because pills are not sold as pure compounds whereas methoxetamine is sold that way.
 
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"Lab comments:Matches are library lookup matches only. DDL does not have an internal standard for any of these substances." -Quoted from that report...

Search sodium bicarbonate on edata, theres zero results... nobodys ever sent in a sample cut with baking soda? I find that hard to believe... :\
 
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Lol how lucky am I? Just 6 weeks ago I ordered my first sample of mxe ever and it is white as paper, hardly any smell, pleasure to sniff, effects corresponding to reports..
and yesterday one friend of mine ordered 10g from the same vendor and received some PINK smelly shit, well it doesn't smell too chemical but its more noticable than the white, also seems to be more fluffy and less crystals. So we did a test, 20mg each one of us and hardly felt anything. From my bag I always felt something the moment I sniffed, full effects do take time to show up but you should feel something in brain immediately IME. And I have almost zero tolerance to mxe.
I'm gonna put my mxe to freezer, hopefully it will stay there for years (or month or two)
 
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