The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine / MXE Thread - Part 16 - Sweet 16 mind-control machine

[Doldrugs]

I find it fascinating that mxe brings everyone to realize much the same thing.

No it doesn't. Some people do MXE to have a good time and that's it. Some people don't like it. Its most zealous adherents consistently exaggerate how universal its appeal is. MXE, like all drugs, affects people differently.

quantum physic learn us a whole lot about how perception affect reality.

Quantum physics specifically describes the behavior of matter/energy on an extremely small scale. It does not conclude that we affect the world with our observation or any such nonsense. It has many unproven and conflicting interpretations and no serious scientist who genuinely understands the theory would say it proves or implies that we somehow create or influence reality with our minds, or whatever other garbage people claim it proves.

 

[Xorkoth]

This is very interesting discussion based around a very interesting drug.

For me MXE beats ketamine on so many levels - it is more profoundly psychedelic, it is more uplifghting, I find I can take lessons out of my experiences that are lost to the k chaos etc. also, as a Buddhist, I believe that in a very real sense the world we perceive is projection of our own mind. Quantum physics is now coming very close to a similar realisation. Years of meditation and use of psychedelic drugs have suggested to me that this really is the case. However, for me the realisation has also dawned on me that the idea I have of myself is just a thought, nothing more. So there is no real self to be creator of anything, only mind which is itself ultimately empty too. Sorry for the deep Buddhist philosophical rant, none of you of course have to believe me, but these are the conclusions I have come to through my own practices and experiences. And MXE is one drug that I really believe, when respected, can teach us a lot about the true nature of things, of consciousness and so forth.

I used to do huge lines of MXE and spend days in a manic-delusional state, at one time nearly killing myself by throwing myself down the stairs. I now take no more that 50mg at a time and find that really is plenty. You can always top up a little bit a few hours later if you really need to. Such a shame this is banned in UK, there really is no comparison between current NMDA antagonists available on the RC scene in the UK (e.g. MXP).

I also believe there is more genuine therapeutic potential with MXE than with ketamine, partly because it feels more genuinely psychedelic and also because it seems easier to stay more lucid through the experience.

I agree about MXE, I also prefer it hands-down over ketamine. For me, ketamine is very amnesic, especially at full dosages for deep experiences, but MXE keeps my memory sharp. My one full hole-style experience I've had on MXE blew all of my ketamine experiences away in psychedelia and depth and clarity. MXE always seems much more psychedelic than ketamine to me. It's just overall more enjoyable and more profound.

 

[cybergollum]

...moderation is key. the magic gets lots quite fast and then a manic over ego perception takes control and we tend to become a bit delusional merely because mxe still make me think much more then usual.

As for me manic side of MXE is (actually it 'was' because it was a while since my last MXE-trip) more likely good thing than bad. At least during last binge I understood a lot, I confessed to a girl at work what I guess I would never do if I wasn't that much obsessed with drugs. Or maybe I would finally confess even without them but who knows when it would happen (if would happen at all)? Usually I am (was) too shy and introspective for such things.

Nevermind. I probably sound petty. But as for me MXE is like a dream-drug which almost haven't side-effects. One thing I don't like in MXE is it prevents me from sleep. I need too much time (like 4+ hours from last dose) or some help (etizolam) before coming to bed. If only it hadn't that destructive effect on sleep I probably was high all the time, ha! Good it is not that perfect

 

[Boupstarnm]

MXE is used for brainwashing.

Just like dreaming, like TV, like advertisements, like religion.

 

[Xorkoth]

Are you suggesting there is a conspiracy to flood people with MXE to brainwash them?

Personally MXE has been quite valuable to me, but it certainly does seem to get some people into delusional spaces.

 

[Bluuberry]

I think of it more like a soldering iron, rather than a washing machine.

 

[murphythecat]

oh no, you dont affect the world entirely, but you affect your world, your inner being. thats all I care about and people who is in contact with me. thats enough. actually, thats all there is .
yeah, your right though. some dont see mxe like other see it. I still find it very cool that I read many users in here that explaine their mxe realisation exactly like I would.

No it doesn't. Some people do MXE to have a good time and that's it. Some people don't like it. Its most zealous adherents consistently exaggerate how universal its appeal is. MXE, like all drugs, affects people differently.



Quantum physics specifically describes the behavior of matter/energy on an extremely small scale. It does not conclude that we affect the world with our observation or any such nonsense. It has many unproven and conflicting interpretations and no serious scientist who genuinely understands the theory would say it proves or implies that we somehow create or influence reality with our minds, or whatever other garbage people claim it proves.

what is reality?
I think reality is my emotions, my feelings, my well being, my happiness, my anger, my thoughts, the love I feel. ect... I dont care about the exterior world that much: why should we? our material world is always changing, I will die no matter what and I cant do anything about it really. even stars die, the universe is always changing. however, my inner being, I can change it any way I can and create change that seems permanent to me. all I know is how much I can better my own inner world and how much I can bring happiness to myself right now.

 

[Peacephrog1972]

I just hope there is a big enoigh need/want for the chemical that it continues to be made and distributed.....by what I read on different forums it is rapidly disappearing

I for one am greatly looking foward to the time when I can revisit this wonderful chem

 

[Bluuberry]

I really don't think it's going anywhere. Everyone is aware of the demand. I think it might get harder to acquire and lower quality in the future though, which is never good. Thankfully there's always a demand for boutique high quality product of anything. I mean shit, you can still get obscure research chemicals from years ago that aren't particularly popular these days. There's no reason MXE would just go extinct.

 

[psynce of sound]

How does rectal administration of MXE compare effects wise to other ROA for it? I am contemplating trying this route after reading about it's benefits for other dissociative compounds. Oral is the best so far for imo but can be unpredictable for me (ie. Sometimes it does little, sometimes it's psychedelic heaven, sometimes it's boom mania.)
Intranasal route is fun and most manageable but lacks the full spectrum of effects. Not tried im or iv due to lack of knowledge and equipment to do so.

 

[Bluuberry]

Have any daily/frequent users experienced intense kidney pain? I've been on the MXE train for a few months with a short break here and there and suddenly yesterday I started getting some rather painful feelings in my kidney region on both sides. They came back today even though I only took one small dose. It's hard not to blame every weird sensation I have on my MXE habit, so I was wondering if this is something any one else has experienced? I've never heard of it happening before.

 

[psynce of sound]

I experienced what I would say is spasms in the region of my kidneys after abuse of mxe but not so much pain.

 

[vortech]

Hydrate Hydrate Hydrate people! You got to keep those metabolites flowing or damage may occur. A gallon of water a day to keep it fresh.

 

[Bluuberry]

I drink at least a gallon of water per day, plus green + herbal tea and juices. Against my better judgement I did more MXE and the pain didn't get worse or anything. Maybe it's just unrelated. I don't know, it just seems weird that an otherwise healthy person would suddenly experience intense kidney pain for hours.

I searched around on BL and it seems I'm not the first to feel this. Not sure what to think at this point. I wish I could hear back from some people who posted their concerns years ago, hear if their organs are all good..

 

[enigmatiq]

Rectal is great fun, it's a bit quicker than snorting and a lot more bio-available. It's the next best thing to IM or IV, but I don't think I will ever put a needle into my vein. Rectal is definitely the way to go if you want to reach the fabled M-hole.

And Bluuberry, yes I experienced kidney aches, but not actually intense pain... Maybe it's related to your diet? MXE can make problems with your renal function stand out more. I think it's best if you took another long break from it. If I experience actual pain, I will go to the doctor and I will let all of you guys know the results.

 

[psynce of sound]

Hmm rectal definitely sounds like it's worth a shot (mind my pun xD ) would anyone be able to describe the subjective effects for me. As i find differing roas make for different effect spectrums.
Also how vapourisable is mxe? I only have access to the foil method so I'm unsure if it's a roa worth bothering with. I would definitely love more information on it though so I can go away and have a ponder on the matter.

 

[DoeJohn]

I think I'm going to either take a break or flush my mxe. I've been noticing very odd side effects from taking it, and only seemingly when taking it singularly. I haven't been doing it often, maybe 6 evenings over 2 months time and never more than say around 60mg a night tops. First time I did it it was pretty nice!

waited about a month or so, then tried again, admittedly doing it 3 nights in a row. I felt very odd abdominal discomfort that permeated from the lower back kidney? area to the stomach in front. No issues with peeing but feeling like shit generally during. waited about a week then tried again, again the gassy uncomfortable tightness in the same region came back, along with an increased heart rate and anxiety which has led to pre-panic attack symptoms singularly and an actual panic attack during the 3 night thing with weed (when 5 hours after dosing smoked a bowl, bad choice).

Either it's a kind of poor reaction or something, but I think it's probably best I skip this one before it either causes me another panic attack or something.

 

[psy997]

Hmm rectal definitely sounds like it's worth a shot (mind my pun xD ) would anyone be able to describe the subjective effects for me. As i find differing roas make for different effect spectrums.
Also how vapourisable is mxe? I only have access to the foil method so I'm unsure if it's a roa worth bothering with. I would definitely love more information on it though so I can go away and have a ponder on the matter.

There was a big discussion on varying effects of ROAs somewhere in here not too long ago

 

[psynce of sound]

There was a big discussion on varying effects of ROAs somewhere in here not too long ago

Really I will have to dig through the thread to find it then. It is definitely something that intrigues me about mxe.
Just bit the bullet and have given rectal administration a shot. Already seeing the upside to this roa.

 

[psynce of sound]

After plugging mxe does anyone else find it causes urges to do things?
I have just been shadow boxing/stance alteration since I plugged some.