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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine / MXE Thread - Part 16 - Sweet 16 mind-control machine

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I started using it again about a week or so ago and have used it once or twice every other day in small quantities. I think I'm going to start using it once a week for a couple of months and then take a few months break.
 
When I first got MXE, I didn't quite "get it" for some reason and I wasn't too into the experience, 300mg lasted me like 4 months. Then I had a breakthrough experience and ever since then I've enjoyed it greatly. I would get orders of MXE with my friends and almost every time we'd hang out, someone would suggest MXE and we'd all do it. I was doing it multiple days in a row occasionally, and probably 3 times per week on average. We'd run out and then not order more for a month and have a break that way. But slowly my desire to use it frequently has been diminishing. Nowadays I use it less than once per week and often don't think of it for long periods of time. It's still lost some of the magic though from my period of doing it too often. Usually now my main motivation to use it is in combination with psychedelics, because it really shines that way. Some of the best combos I've ever encountered involve MXE.
 
Xorkoth, I think what you described is the best way to use it. As a recreational trip, like with psychedelics. It would seem that me and most other MXE addicts got addicted by using it a supplement / pharmaceutical almost. Before I realized I could take it in low doses all day and have this totally other self that I loved, I just used it like one would use mushrooms for example. Occasional one-off usage. It's fantastic like that and seems pretty damn safe.

vortech, you have mail. :)

Thanks for the support ya'll. It truly does mean a lot. Bluelight will always be my home in some ways. I know this account is new but I've actually been on here 13 years. Time sure flies when you're having fun!
 
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I am beginning to see what you're saying Xorkoth. It definitely isn't something to be used as a pharmaceutical but with reverence like a psychedelic.
 
thats how i want to use it......as a trip amplifier!!

read way to many good reports on how it rocks the other psychs out!
 
Did you never try it like that peacephrog? It's so amazing with any psych or empathogen. I had an incredible experience at a festival on LSD, MDMA, and MXE. Moderate doses of course! Impossible to describe but truly incredible and heart opening.
 
I did get a chance to use it with 2-CE .....it was a good night but there were circumstances that made it just a soso event...nothing mind blowing
 
2C-E on its own can already give mind blowing experiences. To me, combining MXE with strong psychedelics often results in too much confusion.

A 4-AcO-DMT experience was once a bit dull, so I thought it'd be a good idea to add some MXE to it, to try and find some excitement. I ended up being unable to talk or even really process all that was going on.
When I decided it was too much and it was for the better to just go home and finish the trip on my own, I ended up standing up and sitting down for half an hour at first, because when standing up my friends were asking what I was going to do, but since I wasn't capable of telling them I was overwhelmed and wanted to leave, I just sat down again.
When finally managing to get myself outside with my bike, I wasn't able to comprehend that my bike had a lock. Well, I did know it should have one, but I couldn't find it, so I kept on trying to ride my locked bike until a friend noticed and took my keys out of my pocket to unlock it. I managed to ride home safely and all was well from that point forward.
 
How much MXE did you take? I find using very small doses when I'm already on psych's helps to avoid confusion.
 
So 2C-B and MXE combine GREAT together. 90mg of mxe sniffed (30mgx3) throughout a night then ate 25mg of 2c-b HCL at sunrise. Total ego dissolution, oneness, love and immense beauty. MXE helps soften the ego so when combined with a psychedelic *BOOM* or *POP* and off you go to a wonderful world of true utter peace and love.
 
I have yet to mix it with any other psychedelic drugs. When I first started using mxe I was in love and ended up using it nightly for about four months, never over 60 mgs as this stuff is simply exceptional. I realized my benzo use was getting out of hand and have since tapered myself down and have not used mxe for about a month now.

I continue ordering a gram a month though because it is something I definitely want to keep around and for a very long time. I love mxe but after taking a break I have so much more respect for it.
 
Thanks for sharing your experience! It sounds like perhaps it will be better than I expect if I take a break. Saying this after a bump.. 8( But really, the break is coming up as soon as this pain from surgery is over and I start up work again! Talking with peeps on this thread has motivated me to take a step back from it for sure. My favorite part about MXE is how it helps you zero in on things with total focus, but I realized I might be missing the big picture with all this zooming in. So, eh, why not step back and get a panoramic view for a while and just chill?

I love the manic state of an MXE binge but I suppose I can learn to be content with only accomplishing as much as an average person rather than a superhuman. I don't want to burn out, after all. I think I will start a daily meditation practice like MXE told me to, I hope it will help me get that focus and clarity and serenity I love so much about MXE.

I know what you mean about wanting it around for a long time. Even if I "stopped" I would want to have a nice stash to dip in occasionally through the years.

Does anyone else enjoy comparing and contrasting different polymorphs? I wish I had the dough to get every batch GCMS tested so I could know if I'm really getting such a range of different effects from different batches of the exact same molecule. I've never seen so much variance in a drug besides mushrooms perhaps.
 
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I feel like the best experiences come from those occasions where tolerance has fully returned to baseline, and I expect those to be the least dangerous.
Mxe I've been hoping to keep two weeks between uses, but since I've gotten it it's been more like weekly. Nonetheless I don't seem to feel the 'pull' of mxe any longer, if people can relate to that. Briefly after my first experience with it I had cravings for a few days, but more recently after a 40mg try, I've had no cravings at all, despite the experience itself being wonderful.
Is there any reason to think that an imposed schedule, like biweekly usage, will prevent cravings if adhered to?
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Your mention of an "imposed" schedule reminded me it's about time to reiterate/re-post an idea I've posted before (simply because most reading now weren't reading when I last posted it, and I've since gotten good feedback). Implementing this moderation strategy means users will have more than just their own will power and a few steps separating them from their drugs, i.e. they're more serious about reducing their use than just the word they give to themselves:
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The easiest way I can think of to control one's rate of use of a problem drug they're not physically addicted to is to simply rent the smallest/cheapest bank safe-deposit box you can find reasonably far away and keep it stored off site. A cheap one is around $35 per year. If you're a frequent user, think about how much money in MXE it would save you if you had to leave your place and go to a bank that's typically closed weekends to get MXE.

The typical cycle that leads to unplanned dosing is as many people have noted: "Why not use MXE now? ... Fine, I'll do it tonight, but try harder to skip it tomorrow." Then tomorrow comes and circumstances haven't meaningfully changed so ... . Safe deposit box storage still allows you to decide to do it "tonight," but assuming you only take one night's pre-measured supply (concealed in a common container that looks like it belongs there), it literally forces you to try harder "tomorrow" -- or simply denies you access during the hours/days the bank is closed. It changes the circumstances in a way most frequent users find it very difficult to do using sheer will power by making the most frequently-cited method of taking a break, "running out," a far more frequent occurrence. This sort of forced moderation of course also has the benefit of radically improving the experience.
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Anyone ever experienced a weird heartbeat feeling when combining MXE and opiates? Last night I experienced a strange reaction. I am taking vicodin for post-surgery pain at the moment. I had taken 15mg in the morning and 10 mg in the evening. I was also using MXE throughout the day. I had already done this for a few days with no issues but for some reason I experienced a rapid, VERY heavy and deep heartbeat for a couple hours. This was accompanied by feelings of intense dysphoria and a lack of discoordination or dissociation. I had done enough MXE that I should have been feeling pretty good and high, but I had an odd mental clarity with no obvious wonky effects.

Meanwhile my body was freaking out and giving off all kinds of alerts and panic mode feelings. BPM was between 100-150 for atleast an hour or two and the heartbeat was so deep and thumping that you could see my chest literally bouncing. I laid down with my girlfriend and took deep breaths with some relaxing music on, but instead of holing I just felt panic. Also, like I mentioned, I felt oddly clear headed like I could do a job interview or calculus at that moment even though my body was fucked. The feeling eventually went away (maybe 2 hours of dysphoria and panic), but I'm left wondering what in the fuck happened. It came on all of a sudden while I was relaxing and browsing the internet so I don't feel like I freaked myself out or anything.

I'm not sure if I just had a panic attack which I am somewhat prone to or if I had some kind of cardiotoxic event. Like I said, I was relaxing when my heart rate started feeling fast and weird. Any thoughts are welcome. Just wanted to share it with you guys in the name of harm reduction. Be careful out there.

A somewhat funny aside: When I finally calmed down I felt rather shook up. I couldn't sleep so I decided to eat some hash dissolved in coconut oil, to help me sleep and hopefully ease the intense pain from my surgery. I took 3/4 of a TEAspoon. It was my first taste of this particular batch and apparently this extract is extra potent, because when it finally kicked in about 2 hours later I was greeted with another panic attack accompanied with intense psychedelia. I was suddenly having crazy CEV and I was totally disoriented.

My heart rate again shot up. I got in bed with my sleeping girlfriend (its 5 am at this point) and again my chest is bouncing from my heart, I wake her up and tell her I think something is wrong. She tries to reassure me and I freak out for a while in the dark not understanding what the hell is going on tonight (I tend to go pretty hard and never had this happen before). This morning I realize it was just a classic hash overdose, white out as I call it. It's pretty funny to me now, but at the time I was so sure I was a goner.

I hadn't used any cannabis in a couple days (first time in like 10 years I went more than 24 hours) before I ate that hash because I didn't want to smoke after oral surgery and the canna oil I had been using before the hash oil wasn't really doing much for me, so I took a little break for the hell of it. I guess this is what people meant when they talked about unpleasantly intense combinations from cannabis and disso's. My tolerance had always been so high to herb that I didn't notice any crazy effects from combining the two. Let me just say - holy fuck. 8o 8(

(Fuckin' A, when did this turn into an essay?)
 
Dunno, only opioid drug I ever use is kratom. I quite like small amounts of that before I dose MXE, not done it the other way around (doesn't make sense to me as MXE lasts shorter). The combo can sometimes make me really quite restless where I just aimlessly start walking around my place occasionally stopping to stare at myself in the mirror and stand on one leg or do something mad like that. Usually the kratom just adds an extra layer of warmth to the MXE blanket though. No issues in particular with heart rate (both kratom and MXE knock it up a bit though).

I dunno if it was the combo in particular that caused the heart issues, sometimes it's something simpler like a nutrient deficiency or something. I know if I've been eating shit for too long and simple smoke a joint my heart will start going nuts for a while until the high wears off. Not nice.

Finally, ime, taking cannabis in any form by an roa after having just had heart related issues is a pretty bad idea. It's just asking to bring it all straight back. A valium or something along those lines would've probably been a better choice to knock yourself out and get some sleep xD.
 
can anyone shed some light on the headaches that mxe seem to produce on the comedown? Does this affect many people? Took a couple small doses earlier today and now have a headache that seems to be around the back of my eyes or if i look to far to the left, right, up or down.
 
St3ve, I think it was malnutrition like you said. The racing heart continued until I ate 3 eggs and big bowl of carrot soup last night. I've been having nothing but milkshakes and vicodin for a week because of my oral surgery, couldn't eat solid or hot food. I feel a lot better after eating some real food.
 
You guys also get tiny schizo handwriting from drugs like these? Mine is shoddy and has very small crinkled features just like a cartoon I did last night on MXE. Of course with enough NMDA antagonism and not enough dopaminergic activity all language use is for shit.

Anyway it is interesting to me that dissos are found to be psychotomimetic and it seems like what is observed with schizophrenics (some say that does not exist, only psychosis) may be reproduced by these drugs.

(p.s. i or another mod needs to refresh this thread)
 
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