The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine / MXE Thread - Part 16 - Sweet 16 mind-control machine

[Trying2Iso]

had the opportunity to buy some K one time, which is kindof like MXE.
Turned it down tho because it was the same price as a gram of molly and i love molly too much
so i got the molly instead

 

[murphythecat]

vortech, your usage is very worrysome to me. you should stop immediately this and go back to sober life and integrate the message the mxe shows us sober. You have to leanr to generate that positivity state of mind without the mxe. Id be very worried about your bladder also with this kind of usage.
limit yourself to one trip maximum per week. take this seriously, even if physically its okay, mentally it cannot be as good as living happily sober. I understand hwo good mxe and how easy it is to become addicted though.

The combination of oral and plugged mxe is amazing. you get that oral warmness and the intensity of plugged! i will always combine both ROA in the future

That's a mouthful, a good mouthful though, thanks for the perspective. I agree the cycle I take with it (1 week on 1 week off) is far from moderation, it is the extreme end of what my body mind and spirit are capable of handling, but that's my purpose in this ride to begin with, to find the boundaries so that I may inform others of what lies on the horizon line.


How I use it and what I recommend others is different. I'm on a completely different level at this point compared to most people. There are different regimens for treating different things, but to remain within the safest parameters while receiving the maximum potential benefits, use for no more than two consecutive days, not more than twice a week. I.e. dose on the weekend like Friday and Saturday, and if needed, a dose in the middle of the week. And my doses of 100-200 mg/day are indicative of my crazy tolerance, beginners should be starting with doses as low as 5-8 mg of high purity material if looking for an atypical antidepressant.

 

[captaintom]

not intending to pass judgement on individuals as at the end of the day it's a matter of personal choice but i find the way a lot of people talk about and treat MXE very unnerving, almost cult-like. I've not seen any other drug that's received this amount of insane chemical evangelism...don't get me wrong i thoroughly enjoy MXE but it seems very easy for even experienced psychonauts to become ensared in its seductive nature

 

[Cream Gravy?]

^I think that's what makes it so appealing.

 

[DubNaut]

in the habit of plugging 100mg 'mxp', 250mg 'mxe', and oral dosage of 60mg 'dxm'.. if possible 10-20mg of either meo-pcp

this started about 7 years ago, downing bottles of zicam and delysm before any activities, specifically school.

 

[Dawglaw]

I have significantly cut back on my mxe use - from 6-7 days a week to about 1 day a week max. It took a lot of will power and me being reckless with benzos (to sleep after dosing) to finally convince my mind to stop craving it every evening after work.

Still a great substance but far too habit forming to be fucking around with casually.

I think the biggest draw for me was the fact that 25mg plus 2mg of etiz gave me a fuzzy warm feeling that I felt was very similar to opiates.

 

[Grinders Kiefers]

not intending to pass judgement on individuals as at the end of the day it's a matter of personal choice but i find the way a lot of people talk about and treat MXE very unnerving, almost cult-like. I've not seen any other drug that's received this amount of insane chemical evangelism...don't get me wrong i thoroughly enjoy MXE but it seems very easy for even experienced psychonauts to become ensared in its seductive nature

I agree, its reputation is especially alarming considering its safety profile. I totally understand the compulsive/addictive side to MXE, but some posts here strike me as incredibly creepy and obsessive and it makes me wonder if I come off the same way. No offense to anyone here, I just refuse to validate the concept that seems to occasionally float around here that repeated MXE use is sacramental or life-affirming and not abusive or harmful.

The most jarring, whacked-out posts I've seen on this forum or any other belong to people on MDPV, a-PVP or any of the other pyrovalerone analogs though. I've often questioned my drug use but when you see multiple people discussing supernatural uses for everyday objects like room fans and air conditioner units triggered by vaporizing a-PVP, it really makes you want to avoid that substance.

in the habit of plugging 100mg 'mxp', 250mg 'mxe', and oral dosage of 60mg 'dxm'.. if possible 10-20mg of either meo-pcp

Good god, that's an outrageous combination. 250mg MXE plugged alone would send a lot of people to the hospital.

 

[Peacephrog1972]

dawglaw...i concur....i use to mis it with benzos, weed and beer, and it had a strong opiate pull,,,,,,,made me feel neat from my head to me feet!

 

[murphythecat]

seriously, this is really dangerous.

in the habit of plugging 100mg 'mxp', 250mg 'mxe', and oral dosage of 60mg 'dxm'.. if possible 10-20mg of either meo-pcp

this started about 7 years ago, downing bottles of zicam and delysm before any activities, specifically school.

 

[Cream Gravy?]

Yeah, I've never personally experienced any spirituality via mxe; however, I think what the drug does is well- what dissos tend to do- make you manic and ego-centric.

When I'm on mxe, I feel like I have reached the ultimate disconnection from life's problems. I'm loving towards all, I'm free of emotional issues, I feel like I can foresee a bright and pleasant future. Then you come back to reality the morning after, and the emotions are back, my dislike of people is back, my future seems uncertain and foreboding.

When people call it the flesh of Christ and the like, I get a bit put off. MXE is GREAT, but it is no spiritual sacrament. I simply think that the more often you use mxe, the more likely it is for you to associate it with some heightened ego which you very much enjoy. I must admit, when I was using multiple times a week a couple months back, I felt so damn good every day. I felt like my future was certain and bright, and my social skills became very pronounced and I made more acquaintances in my daily life. I'm sure if I used even more, and for weeks on end, I'd get a megalomaniac kinda ego inflation. I'm not sure if that would have been good or bad, but I am certain I would have been full of myself.

 

[psy997]

I disagree about the spirituality, I find MXE to be profoundly spiritual, just as much as psychedelics can be.

 

[Cream Gravy?]

I mean, I find it useful, but not in the same ways as classic psychedelics. Perhaps because I associate more fear or something with psychs. Apprehension is a better choice of word. Like a no pain no gain kinda thing. MXE, for me, has never been associated with that apprehension, its almost always just a smooth ride.

 

[Grinders Kiefers]

I disagree about the spirituality, I find MXE to be profoundly spiritual, just as much as psychedelics can be.

Sorry, I didn't mean to say that dissociatives aren't or can't be spiritual, only that what some consider spiritual about MXE is questionable. I do think MXE can be a spiritual drug but it's also easy to use that as a rationale to continue taking more of it. I'll see people come in here lauding MXE as this divine gift from God that should be treated carefully, but then say their daily/habitual use is necessary for enlightenment or heightened consciousness or whatever vaguely spiritual concept fits. I can't tell someone what they should consider spiritual, but the "spiritual" aspect of MXE seems to be an excuse for some and I don't think that behavior should be encouraged.

I mean, I find it useful, but not in the same ways as classic psychedelics. Perhaps because I associate more fear or something with psychs. Apprehension is a better choice of word. Like a no pain no gain kinda thing. MXE, for me, has never been associated with that apprehension, its almost always just a smooth ride.

I agree about the apprehension from psychedelics. I find the set, setting and dosage have to be taken much more into consideration with psychedelics than with dissociatives. Outside of events, I typically don't take psychedelics in large/random groups or at unfamiliar locations regardless of the dose, whereas I'd have no problem going to a party full of strangers on almost any dose of MXE. Even at full hole doses, I'm still coherent enough not to flip out or lose my cool, something I could never say about high doses of psychedelics.

 

[DatNiggaJ]

is MXE really smokable/vaporizable? sounds dangerous. what tempatures?

 

[jason7]

Interesting that the title of this thread mentions mind control because last time I took MXE I somehow got to this video and listened to the first part of it with my eyes closed. I was like a disembodied consciousness absorbing what the voice was saying. I could see how MXE might put people into a state where they would be susceptible to brainwashing. Anything they hear through headphones would seem like profound revelations from some divine authority. The video is actually pretty funny when you're not high.

 

[Listening]

As per my non-trip-report, can someone recommend where I should send my "MXE" for testing to find out exactly what it really contains? Thanks.

 

[murphythecat]

manic, ego centric and disconnection?

for me its absolute contrary!
it warms and calms and sooth my mind and I feel very connected to what I know is important in my life
I find mxe very spiritual psychologically. hard to explain

maybe different batch gives different effect?

Yeah, I've never personally experienced any spirituality via mxe; however, I think what the drug does is well- what dissos tend to do- make you manic and ego-centric.

When I'm on mxe, I feel like I have reached the ultimate disconnection from life's problems. I'm loving towards all, I'm free of emotional issues, I feel like I can foresee a bright and pleasant future. Then you come back to reality the morning after, and the emotions are back, my dislike of people is back, my future seems uncertain and foreboding.

When people call it the flesh of Christ and the like, I get a bit put off. MXE is GREAT, but it is no spiritual sacrament. I simply think that the more often you use mxe, the more likely it is for you to associate it with some heightened ego which you very much enjoy. I must admit, when I was using multiple times a week a couple months back, I felt so damn good every day. I felt like my future was certain and bright, and my social skills became very pronounced and I made more acquaintances in my daily life. I'm sure if I used even more, and for weeks on end, I'd get a megalomaniac kinda ego inflation. I'm not sure if that would have been good or bad, but I am certain I would have been full of myself.

 

[vortech]

Jason7 you hit the nail on the head there. To help wrap up the last page or so of this thread, the reason there must be careful consideration of what you feed the mind on MXE is because the dissociated state of consciousness does leave you open to being tinkered with on a deep level. That is why MXE gets wrapped up with spirituality - it really is that powerful, and that power demands respect.

In the sense that life is a song, you better be a musician or else you will be the one that gets played. If you use MXE and are not in control of the radio station figuratively speaking, I hope that at the least you are aware that you are not in the drivers seat of this ride.

 

[jason7]

Imagine what would happen if an auditorium full of people were all administered MXE and then somebody like David Icke did a lecture. Their brains could get seriously warped. Scientologists should never take it before a meeting. It would be the perfect tool for a cult leader to use for mind control.

 

[murphythecat]

I understand what you mean profundly. but I find mxe really steer people positively to the good direction and even the bad experience is beneficial and brings insight into the user even if he doesnt like wht happens,, its still beneficial at the end.

fear is the barrier though and if you believe the mind into his delusions, problem can occur, but still someone at least can realize it and try to change that. MXE only shows what already there and even if it hard at first to see problems where you thought there werent, you better be aware of those problems then not. Its only when you know theres a problem and what the problem is that you can begin to change and deal with it until the problem leaves.

Jason7 you hit the nail on the head there. To help wrap up the last page or so of this thread, the reason there must be careful consideration of what you feed the mind on MXE is because the dissociated state of consciousness does leave you open to being tinkered with on a deep level. That is why MXE gets wrapped up with spirituality - it really is that powerful, and that power demands respect.

In the sense that life is a song, you better be a musician or else you will be the one that gets played. If you use MXE and are not in control of the radio station figuratively speaking, I hope that at the least you are aware that you are not in the drivers seat of this ride.