The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine / MXE Thread - Part 16 - Sweet 16 mind-control machine

[DubNaut]

a simple yes, the whole arylcyclohexylamine and relative class has always been key.

 

[Cream Gravy?]

a simple yes, the whole arylcyclohexylamine and relative class has always been key.

But see, ketamine, PCP, tiletamine... they all have a history of medical use as anesthetics and as recreational drugs, and have been highlighted by the media, movies, etc... but MXE isn't used medically, and has never been able to break into mainstream drug culture from what I can tell. Everyone who I know who has tried MXE with me has loved it and wanted to do it again, but when I try to simply explain what it is to people who have never tried it, they get confused as fuck.

It reminds me of 2c-b. 2c-b has technically survived the bans, but I've never tried it nor seen it in real life, and I've never even met anyone who even knows what it is. I have a feeling MXE will be the same... you'll only see it in those hardcore disso-head circles, which will never be mainstream and which I'll never run into

 

[Xorkoth]

It depends on where you live... where I live I run into a surprising number of people who are on MXE or know what it is/have tried it. Same with 2C-B, almost everyone around here knows what 2C-B is. I've seen a bunch of 2C-B in my time, I even had a gram of my own once.

I do think MXE will survive the bans as a black market drug but it won't be as plentiful or easy to get. I also think it's ridiculous to ban it... it's just going to cause more people to take the more dangerous dissos and/or newer novel dissos to be created which will likely be more dangerous. Same old story...

 

[Delsyd]

^One lab I'm in contact with just said that this would be the last batch they would be producing as it is about to be scheduled in china. While part of me is glad another part has been on the verge of tears since reading the message. I'm very sorry xork if that counted as source discussion. I just thought should share any info on the subject. Please delete my post if it crossed the line.

I'm going to remain scepticle till I hear more. Usually news like this spreads rather quickly but I haven't heard anything about it on any other RC boards.
I'm not saying you're lying, but perhaps your source was mistaking or had an alterior motive for saying that like trying to get you to buy a bunch.

 

[St3ve]

I think I've found my new favourite way to take MXE.
Measure out dose, split in two. Eat one half, plug the other half. Smoke big pipe of weed. Play music. Wash dishes. Ponder life.

 

[Cream Gravy?]

It depends on where you live... where I live I run into a surprising number of people who are on MXE or know what it is/have tried it. Same with 2C-B, almost everyone around here knows what 2C-B is. I've seen a bunch of 2C-B in my time, I even had a gram of my own once.

I do think MXE will survive the bans as a black market drug but it won't be as plentiful or easy to get. I also think it's ridiculous to ban it... it's just going to cause more people to take the more dangerous dissos and/or newer novel dissos to be created which will likely be more dangerous. Same old story...

Xork, I needa move to your region hahah. I'm sure I'll be seeing more classic psychs when I move back home in a couple months, but no exotics. Pretty bummed about this gradual yet unstoppable disappearance of MXE.

 

[CosmicG]

I think I've found my new favourite way to take MXE.
Measure out dose, split in two. Eat one half, plug the other half. Smoke big pipe of weed. Play music. Wash dishes. Ponder life.

Sounds nice man. Last night I took my normal dose orally, slipped into my bathrobe, and put the headphones on for a solid three hours floating on the couch eyes closed arms crossed. Thought about absolutely nothing only felt the music. I used to watch movies but now find it a bit confusing sometimes to follow the plots or relate to the characters as my mind tends to drift. I get more therapeutic benefits with music and MXE. Helps me stay out of my head and just breathe. I love the comfort and warmth mxe brings with the loss of self. Everything disappears.

 

[veodo]

I think with MXE you can see, percibe or feel the inmediate future. I was in the bar watching football with my friends high on MXE, and I saw and sing/shout the goal 2 seconds before all the people when the ball went in. It was crazy.

I have more examples but they are more wierd.

 

[mindseye888]

I have fairly frequent nightmares and mxe is really helping stop them. My dreams are so positive and realistic.
I admit I'm a mxe addict, but it stops those racing, stressful thoughts better than benzos. It numbs any minor back or neck pain. And gets me high, in a comfy, fluffy, friendly way...albeit a little weird.
Only problem is I look like a stumbling robot when I'm on it.
Lol...I love mxe.

 

[Peacephrog1972]

yeah.....i hugged a lot of walls when doing mxe

 

[Cream Gravy?]

yeah.....i hugged a lot of walls when doing mxe

Honestly I really love that part, lets you know the drug is kicking in when I start stumbling during my usual pacing I do while waiting for a drug to come up. As soon as I need to grab the walls I know it's time to lay down hahah.

 

[murphythecat]

Eat one half, plug the other half. Smoke big pipe of weed.

me too. I find the combination of oral and plug is very special. got the warmth of oral and rush and intensity of plugged

 

[St3ve]

^^ yeah it was really nice! I also liked that the comeups sort of came right after eachother, by the time the plugged dose had fully kicked in the oral one started coming up, making the comeup last quite a lot longer. It felt like that, my clock being broken probably added a lot to the time dilation xD.

 

[vortech]

but MXE isn't used medically, and has never been able to break into mainstream drug culture from what I can tell....
It reminds me of 2c-b. 2c-b has technically survived the bans, but I've never tried it nor seen it in real life, and I've never even met anyone who even knows what it is. I have a feeling MXE will be the same... you'll only see it in those hardcore disso-head circles, which will never be mainstream and which I'll never run into

I beg to differ. It is used medicinal, but I know what you mean, not in a clinical setting.

I have found the most therapeutic effects with meditation, yoga, light and sound therapy, massage, opening up and working thoughts out people i connect with, and soaking in the sun with my kitty lol.

It is nearing mainstream exposure and use in the sense that ketamine and DXM has been.

 

[Cream Gravy?]

^Yeah, it has helped me in many ways, but no physician will ever prescribe it because Western society is fucked. Ketamine has seen medicinal inquiries into its uses as an anti-depressant, and I think MXE would be a better candidate given its lesser damage on the kidneys... but again, Western society will never see it in this light. Fuck.

To be honest I'd rather not see mainstream exposure of MXE in the States. I try not to share much of it because a) I'm running low on it and b) the people I do share it with use it irresponsibly and are the types to smoke acetaminophen-ridden hydrocodones on their bowls. People are just too stupid to use such a drug safely, and thus it's best if it stays underground as long as possible.

 

[Listening]

^Yeah, it has helped me in many ways, but no physician will ever prescribe it because Western society is fucked. Ketamine has seen medicinal inquiries into its uses as an anti-depressant, and I think MXE would be a better candidate given its lesser damage on the kidneys... but again, Western society will never see it in this light. Fuck.

To be honest I'd rather not see mainstream exposure of MXE in the States. I try not to share much of it because a) I'm running low on it and b) the people I do share it with use it irresponsibly and are the types to smoke acetaminophen-ridden hydrocodones on their bowls. People are just too stupid to use such a drug safely, and thus it's best if it stays underground as long as possible.

On the one hand you're blaming "fucked western society" for not permitting legitimate use of MXE and on the other hand you're saying that you want it to stay underground because people are too irresponsible. Weird.

While it's clear that there is therapeutic potential for MXE (an understatement) it's also clear that lots of people can't use it responsibly for that purpose (an understatement). I love MXE and think it can be amazingly healing, but if I were a physician I would never prescribe it.

 

[Cream Gravy?]

^Fair enough. I was being contradictory. It's just that most drug users I know haven't been educated for shit about drugs; I think that in a hypothetical future where scientific-fact based harm reduction classes were mandated for students, then maybe something like MXE and other drugs could be used more responsibly. For the time being though, even when you try to inform people of proper precautions, people don't listen.

So, it's fucked that it can't be a legal drug, but it's because of both ends of the prohibition spectrum that it can't, not because safe use isn't possible.

Note: I do think if they offered up fact rather than fiction to young drug naive minds, they would indeed believe it; think of all the LSD myths told to students and spread between peer groups- everyone believes them. Why? I don't know. People must think that whenever someone in a position of authority states something as fact, then it must be fact... or something. My point is, it would be nice if we could use this to the advantage of society to promote positive harm reduction strategies.

 

[LearntYoung]

I don't know if it's known here, but when taking noopept regularly, MXE doesn't work... Just thought I'd throw it out here, since I just found out

 

[FlawedByDesign]

^I think I remember read something about that. It would be nice if it completely blocks large doses(100- 200mgs). Are there any known dangers taking large doses of the two on a daily basis for a week or two as a sort of dissociative methadone?

 

[psy997]

It'd probably be a waste.

As a rule of thumb, nootropics with the same mechanism of action as racetams, noopept, etc. will counteract NMDA agonism, thus dissociatives as a whole, basically.