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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine / MXE Thread - Part 16 - Sweet 16 mind-control machine

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Guys, can you enlighten me on my situation? A few days ago I took about 20mg of MXE sublingually. Very light trip due to my tolerance. After about 3 hours I decide dto take a dab. This is when shit gets scary.

Keep in mind I've done straight up cannabis before in combination with MXE and had no issues. This time, after that fat hit of high quality shatter, I got hit with full blown panic attack. I've never had this happen to me before. Could this just be a bad reaction to the dab, especially since I've been on a weed tolerance break, or did MXE somehow influence/trigger it? I only suspect this because during the panic attack my head felt as though it were under a heavy dose of MXE. You know that feeling of *pressure* on your head, which throbs unceasingly while the locus of this throbbing seems to be pulled and pushed from all directions. It's hard to explain but it's very characteristic of MXE, and now that I think about it salvia as well in a way. All this was happening while I was panicking, puzzling me since MXE dose was low and the dose taken hours ago before the panic attack. I haven't touched cannabis or MXE since then.
 
^^^ Not sure what you're asking, but MXE and weed are definitely synchronistic / potentiate each other. I always smoke, but never an insane amount. I suspect it was just too much in combo with the MXE, regardless of the timing.
 
Yeah, as a general rule, I half my usual MXE dose and half my weed dose when taking them together. They potentiate each other amazingly well. You were perhaps taken aback which triggered a panic attack?
 
Yeah, I think the dab was just too strong, especially after a tolerance break. Thinking about it, I've had bad reactions to concentrates by themselves so it's no wonder mixed with MXE, I freaked out.
 
Dissociatives lower cannabis tolerance and I've found in the days after using MXE (also DXM and 3-MeO-PCP) smoking results in an extremely intense cannabis high which can be uncomfortable and often feels as if the MXE has been brought back. The more experience you get this can be a good way to bring back the MXE effect without having to take more.
 
The other thing is that when I do MXE, I pretty much always use the same strain(s) of weed because I've noticed that it goes much better with some than others.
 
I wish there was a place to discuss NMDA antagonists in a technical sense. I began supplementing magnesium for reasons unrelated to MXE, but I have noticed it quite possibly has a very mild psychoactive effect on me in the days following MXE usage. This makes sense as I believe it is an N-methyl-D-aspartate antagonist. So would this by chance be having a negative effect on memory formation? I know this is uncharted territory so I guess I'm just looking for any anecdotal advice on supplements in conjuction with intermittent MXE consumption.
 
The magnesium plug is what stops the calcium from flowing through the channel in the nmda receptor, so that makes sense that mg supplementation might have a positive effect with using nmdar antagonists. /r/drugnerds on reddit sometimes has such discussions. I'm surprised there's nowhere on BL that we can discuss generalized nmdar antagonism, up/downregulation, and tolerance. These are topics I'm interested in and read up on whenever I get the opportunity.

However, Ca sites outnumber Mg in your brain at about a 2:1 ratio. I've tried taking 200(?)mg chelated mg glycinate by itself and in conjunction with nmdar antagonists and also perceived something - I wasn't sure if it was placebo or not. I planned to study it further but haven't had the time lately. Maybe in a week or two I can get back to it.

I tried using L-Theanine, which is an NMDAr agonist, to sensitize/upregulate my nmda receptors in order to achieve more profound effects with an antagonist, but I'm flying blind and again, unsure if what I experienced was simply placebo or something real. I'd need to take close notes and it's hard to objectively compare subjective effects to begin with.

Sometimes I feel like it's just for naught, as you can simply take a larger dose of the antagonist - I wonder if I subconsciously thought I was simply 'undoing' the 'damage' done by using recreational antagonists by using agonists in between...

Source for L-Theanine NMDAr agonist info: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00213-011-2440-z
 
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Indeed, check out the Neuroscience and Pharmacology discussion forum. :) Also there's nothing against discussing it here, but you'll find more knowledgeable people there.
 
Might have to spend almost all the money I get for the month so I can get 5 grams of mxe and 5 of mpa. Think how epic a 50-50 mix of mpa and mxe would smoke in a meth pipe. It would melt down the mxe into the mpa so you wouldn't have to hardly inhale to avoid inhaling mxe dust like when smoking mxe by itself. The dissassociative would lower your stimulant tolerance to nothing so it would be like getting spun your first time every time. I can't wait I'll have to get both and <MOD SNIP - no comments pertaining to dealing/on-selling please>. Bonafide hustle.
 
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If you have really good, clean, pure MXE, it is one of the most magical substances on Earth. You can quote me as saying that right now, MXE is my favorite psychedelic, next to DMT.

I tripped the other night. I had a nice deep trip, I wasn't DEEP in the hole like I have been the past few times, but I was kind of floating in and out of the hole, plus I was sucking down so much nitrous the whole time that I experienced some very, very profound states.

But the other night, I experienced something that I never have before, on MXE or any other drug. It was...to put it simply, the most profound state of bliss I've ever experienced. I was tripping very hard, and then all of a sudden I just kind of had this moment. It felt like getting a giant hug from God. And not in a heroin sort of way, I mean like, I felt more sober than I ever have for a brief moment. And I was struck by this almost divine sense of bliss, like there was a benevolent force looking out after me and I didn't have to be afraid or sad anymore. I then got a HUGE smile on my face, one that was impossible to wipe off. This smile came more naturally than any smile in the past, and it was huge, and just did not go away. I felt so profoundly at peace, I was simply awestruck. I was reminded of Eckhart Tolle's The Power of Now, where he recalls experiencing a state of total mental clarity and it left him humbled and awestruck for days and months to come. He experienced a holy moment, and I definitely think I experienced one too.

It's just so hard to describe though. But damn, I really love MXE :) high quality product, plus spacing use out a month between doses at least, is a great way to get to where you need to be every time.
 
I feel like I'm constantly flip-flopping on this, but I am really starting to think MXE is not as great as I made it out to be. The constant feeling of numbness and feeling out of it is not fun to me. Also, anymore it's just not magical for me unless I'm binging on it. I've had some great times on it but I just feel like overall it is definitely an extremely negative aspect of my life when I'm consistently using it. I still haven't figured out how to use it responsibly, so I'm just not going to get it anymore.

I feel like MXE made me lose sight of my true chemical love which is psychedelics. 2C-B is probably my favorite it just opens me up emotionally, music is amazing, and the days afterwards are extremely positive - much more so than had I taken MXE.

I want to go back to school so constant MXE use is just pretty much out of the question. I don't really have a desire to smoke cannabis anymore as I'm tired of how it affects me socially. Really I'm starting to begin seeing drug abuse in a much more negative light. For now I'm sticking to lysergamides, phens, and stimulants functionally. Maybe I'll let myself get some 3-MeO-PCP here soon as I never had a problem with that, but MXE is just a beast that I don't think I can handle.
 
I think using it consistently is probably your biggest issue. Nearly everyone reports that when you overuse it, it loses the magic... it was true for me as well. It's really true of any drug. But good call on realizing you're abusing it and making moves to change that. :)
 
Yeah I hope no one expected it could be abused everyday without any problems or losing the magic.

There's novelty in everything.
 
Thanks guys, I've had a dissociative problem since I was like 16 years old. I always thought they made me the person I wanted to be, but really aside from the mania which is great in moderation, they were just numbing me emotionally. I'm starting to realize that this world has much more pleasure to offer, and it often doesn't come in the form of drugs, though granted they are the quickest and easiest way to attain it. Most people really frustrate me and I always blamed that on them, but now I see that is just as much my problem. Regardless of how content I am by myself at times, I've realized that interpersonal relationships are one of the most fulfilling and integral parts of the human experience. I really must partly thank 2C-B, as it helped me genuinely realize this in a way not even MDMA, MXE, or any other psychedelic has come close to.
 
Wanted to give everyone a heads up that I wasn't blowing smoke - Energy Control just confirmed they received my sample. I'll be posting macro substance shots, reagent shots, and all the analysis paperwork on the 'White Chinese Sand' variation of MXE as soon as I'm able!

I feel like this should help a lot of people, because the factory this ostensibly came from is still around, on the clear net, and still selling MXE - so I imagine I'm one of many many people that got their hands on this kind of MXE.
 
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