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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine (MXE) Thread - Chapter 14

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I have used MXE sublingually, orally, rectally, but didnt use it successfully intranasally before, the route instinctively chosen by many K heads and club kids.

I have always knocked it because it taxes the mucous membranes of the nose, and is reported to be more manic and less deep, while offering no distinct potency advantages over oral.

I decided yesterday that, even though I was prejudiced against it and probably wouldnt like it, I would man up and give it a go to be able to dispense better MXE advice and also to experience what so many users experience, to be able to give an informed opinion and balanced recommendation.

Weapons of choice: a shaving mirror, razor blade, rolled up banknote and 40 mg of the hardest hitting crystal MXE I have. (Maegashira batch)

I chopped it up, divided into two lines of approximately 20mg each and snorted each up one nostril, with some aftersnort and pinches to settle it.

This was against my personal preference. I knew it was gonna be unpleasant, not too good for the nasal mucosa, but this one was for science. I had to know. I knew I was gonna hate the ROA, but I had to know. It was gonna be a chore.

It was. Really unpleasant. It hit my nose harshly and I had a lot of dental adjusting and swallowing, as well as grimacing, until the powder had generated enough fluid to dissolve.

It was uncomfortable but not painful. The discomfort phase lasted about 20 minutes, then all powder was sirupy fluid which felt kinda numb. Crystal MXE has no particular caustic, drying, numbing or irritant properties other than being a bitter alkaloid. I had only a tiny bit of drip. The first 20 minutes I associated with having a cold, that uncomfortable nose feeling.

The high.

There was a nice initial rush fairly quickly, but then it took a good amount of time to come on, enough for the discomfort to pass which was cool.

When the high came up it was clear that it was quite anesthetic in nature, distinctly more so than oral use and in anesthetic feel on par with rectal, but less potent. I didnt notice particular mania. But also, it was indeed not as *deep* as oral or rectal. It was more an anesthetic high than a dissociative trip.

After my initial resistance at 20-30min I kept saying "you know, this isnt half bad." and indeed it wasnt. A pleasurable high, but more euphoric-anesthetic than mindwarping-trippy. The high won me over, in that it was worth the discomfort in terms of pleasure, but it was less deep.

Potancy.

This is where Erowid and I have to part ways. I think intranasal is indeed a bit more potent than oral use, about 1.25x to quantify it, but its nowhere near the Divine Hammer of rectal MXE which is about twice as potent and in some ways even more, and allegedly on par with IM needle use.

I couldnt see myself snorting another line, or line after line. Too taxing on the nose. I'd fear I'd do damage. I dont see myself using intranasally with any regularity, its not Deep enough to my tastes. But pleasurable and worthwhile, that it was for sure. I see why people do it, but in my view its more a high than a trip and taxes the nose so its not for me.

This morning I blew my nose a bit more than usual, but there was no irritation or dryness asnd perhaps still a bit of numbness still remained. Sense of smell the day after was not significantly affected.

I did what the kids do and came away impressed =D
 
^Because of your post, I will insufflate 40mg of MXE tonight like you did to both nostrils :) Have you tried taking it orally+snorting at the same time, would that hit even harder?
 
Nope, I now am an oral/rectal user. Oral, is very good for stacking dose on dose and going places but it is wasteful on body and stash due to lower potency, Rectal is supreme for a single plunge inward, very psychedelic, anesthetic and overwhelming, twice as potentr as oral but so powerful that it doesnt lend itself to repeat dosing or adding oral doses much. Too much risk of getting so very high it gets extremely uncomfortable, as well as getting a racing heart.
 
Asante do you like to combo other drugs with MXE? Like alcohol or cannabis? Just snorted ~35mg and I'm thinking of smoking a bowl and opening a beer soon to slowly sip it.

One of the most amazing features of MXE is the time dilation imo.. its like seconds become minutes after you dose
 
I like to take the equivalent of 5mg diazepam when I dose MXE to counter the risk of an anxious reaction which can be excruciating on MXE. I find that 1 can of beer on the end of a session narows down most of the mental effects making it easier to sleep for a newbie (me I love falling asleep in a peaceful Hole, its the most womblike comforting experience ever) and that cannabis greatlyt augments the mental effects but its amnesia curbs the usefulness of the experience (weed does that with trips and MDMA too).

I fear that if I take MXE with psychedelics I'll either shit my pants, scream the neigborhood awake or pick my great grandfathers pitchfork off my wall and go on a midnight neighborhood gremlin hunt or do all three simultaneously, I cant fathom the intensity of lets say MXE x Shrooms, knowing what Nitrous & Shrooms does for me.
 
Asante im drinking my second beer and I have smoked a bowl of cannabis since my last post. Feeling pretty fucked up, but good. 40mg nasally definitely hit hard. I think im not gonna redose mxe today because im drinking alcohol and smoking weed. But this is great potentiator as 1 beer feels like 3.
 
It does but thing is, you lose the psychedelicness of the MXE in my view. Combining alcohol and MXE makes you high more but trip less. And I do love the tripping, I dont care much for the high.

When you sober up try dissolving 40mg in a shotglass of lukewarm water and gulp that down on an empty stomach. You;ll prolly be a bit less high than intaranasal but more mindfucked.

Now see? A nice gentleman on the internet advised you to take one more dose of MXE today, why refuse? =D
 
Thanks man, ill try that. This chemical is so fun to explore. Feels like it shows me something new everytime. I have to save even ~20mg for LSD.. I heard thats intense

yeah why refuse.. haha. thats the question.. but i have some discipline left :)
 
It takes great discipline to say Yes I Will, when your intuition beckons you to do so and your rationality screams No! You Shouldnt!

I find that when I'm done taking MXE, I walk away from it and theres not a trace of longing back, its when I have psyuchologicasl unfinished business that I feel the urge to redose.

Not all redosing is evil addictive seduction. Sometimes you need one more dose because you really need to experience something of great significance. Of course this is seldom the case if you throw MXE in the mix with alcohol, and no one can tell if its the case that particular time but you.

Some of my best sessions where when my rational mind said stop and my intuition said "trust me, just one more". Experiences so grand that my eyes overflowed with tears for the beauty of it all, experiences my rational mind couldnt foresee but my intuition knew were coming, life changing experiences. I took it pure though, not in the mix.

But do it your way, let no one tell you yes or no about your own mind and your life,
 
Mixing with weed and alcohol is great, but of course backfires from the moment you're too high to care for the appropriate extra health maintenance combining requires..

[...] I can't fathom the intensity of lets say MXE x Shrooms, knowing what Nitrous & Shrooms does for me.

Easily the most fucked-up thing I've ever done.

The fungus is baffled by the power of MXE, and it lets you know..
 
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I experience virtually no feeling whatsoever from MXE up the nose, it has to be the most benign substance I have ever taken in the nose, it basically feels like snorting flour (I think, I haven't snorted flour). Like, absolutely no discomfort whatsoever, no blowing my nose the next morning, nothing. Strange (to me) that you found it so irritating.
 
Oh I'll contribute a bit of info: Some time ago I was high on MXE and for the first time in years decided to crack some nitrous and see how the synergism would be between these dissociatives. So, I cracked 3 into a bag and took three breaths. Then, the center of my visual field burst into anime-style flames, completely blotting out my center of vision and I gripped the couch holding on for dear life by the intensity. There was great synergism and it was interesting but so intense that it was not of my choosing. Later, more careful inhalations were more pleasant because of decreased intensity. You'll only need one in the bag when you're on MXE, and 3 will blast you into orbit.
 
Interesting synergy, I wonder if the synergy would be anything like Gascid, or so the story goes...

"On a beautiful summers day of 1982, I discovered the chemical synergy that I have affectionately referred to for the last 32 years as 'GASCID' - as in Gas and Acid = Gascid. And from that moment, my life changed almost as profoundly as the day I lost my mind - because it was the day that I found my answers - all of them.

I had done some acid - not a lot - maybe half a hit. I was still very cautious, after my annihilation a year earlier, and the theory was twofold. If I did Nitrous right at the end of an acid trip - like 8 hours into it - when everything had resolved on the Acidic level, perhaps a) the Nitrous would boost the strength of the acid to give me a momentary high that was like 5 or 10 hits of *really* good acid - and b) that perhaps the acid, would help to extend the duration of the Nitrous, and give me a little more time to try and bring back some of the deeper essence of the experience.

I was extremely careful. I'd lost my mind once already, and I was not keen on a second round. My first hit was miniscule. There was a very slight shift in my perceptions. I took a little more and felt the Nitrous very vaguely, but in a way like never before - and in a good way like I had never imagined. By the time I was on the last cartridge, I took the entire thing, and I experienced for the first time in my life, the Holy Realm that is Gascid.

The world that is Gascid is a story unto itself with so many facets. I am not going to try and define any of the experiences right now - too much of a tangent. I became a student of Gascid. I had found what was - at least for me - *the* key that unlocks the doors to everything - and more importantly, it was the most exquisite experience that can be. It is heaven to me - a perfect state of being - the thing that we all at the core wish to experience - even once.

I had found the key - a gateway - a wormhole to what has for me become not so much a drug synergy as an actual *place*. I devoted my life to this 'faith' of mine - and my quest was to bring back some of these truths, and to find a way to share them with others - which I did in fact accomplish. I have kind of built an environment that almost *guarantees* arriving at this place. There is technology involved - it's all very complicated.

Over the next 12 years, I did Gascid about 500 times (and we're talking full blown 4 hour experiences with like 10 boxes of Nitrous each time). It is my world - my reality - my Guru - my god - and myself. I have no doubts - no hesitation - no lack of understanding - and it just got better all the time, as I learned to 'pilot' this space/time/ship that I built over the course of those 12 years.

My wife was not too supportive of this - and I wanted her on my side, so I tried even harder to find some tangible evidence that the work that I was doing was valid - telepathy - psychokenesis - some small evolutionary step that would demonstrate that what I was doing was *valid* - and that I was not just another nutter who did too many psychedelics.

This was the time that I almost completed my space/time/ship. It was an entire room, with a 'drivers seat' positioned in the middle - there were spinning wheels and stroboscopic lights - all synchronized to music - my own of course which was writted specifically to induce certain types of trance using light and sound to guide the subject on a 'solid' path. I was so *close* - but relations were getting strained with my wife, who thought that I was obsessed. She was right of course. I was. And why not? This was the most important thing in my life. It was the one thing in which I truly had unshakable faith. I *had* to find some evidence of the validity - I needed *support* on this - not criticism. I at least deserved a chance to demonstrate it to someone else - to have the years that I had invested validated by another fearless soul who was willing to walk through the gates of heaven and be embraced lovingly by the universe."

Lmao I just wanted to post that even though it probably doesn't relate to the mxe thread too much. =D
 
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I remember reading this years back. Did you post it or are you quoting someone else? I can't remember who the poster was so it could have been you. But it would have had to be a new name since you just joined.
 
I found (sensible doses of) MXE to be EXTREMELY relaxing when tripping, it seemingly smoothes out all the rough edges and opens you up to the entire experience. I'd be very careful with the dose, and MXE overdose on a psychedelic could turn quite bad. Do remember it's distantly related to PCP..


IMO you probably don't need more than 30mg rectal unless you really rack up a major tolerance.
 
Ballz_T 50 mg rectal can be quite intense! What do you usually take?

Ok I'm actually glad you asked this before we dosed because I've only done MXE 4 times now but the last 3 times were 100mg nasally (25mg bumps spaced over around 3 hours) I did not find this to intense at this dose ROA. I felt every time like I would like to go further. It did produce "cubic/pixel" open eye visuals, flanging auditory effects, and gave me a strong urge to lay down and close my eyes. With closed eyes a flood of images is produced - I am assuming I'm at or very near the hole at this point.
I like fairly intense psychedelic experiences and I'm feeling very comfortable with 50mg rectal. I have not had an intense drug experience with anything except my last trial with a very large dose of 4-ho-dpt and even then that was pretty non-ego threatening.
If it sounds like I'm being overly cocky I will take no offence I do not want to over do it but so far me and my GF have not found our ideal dose with MXE. I know it's going to probably be a definite hole dose. I do not care at all for MXE until you get into it's psychedelic territory.
 
I found (sensible doses of) MXE to be EXTREMELY relaxing when tripping, it seemingly smoothes out all the rough edges and opens you up to the entire experience. I'd be very careful with the dose, and MXE overdose on a psychedelic could turn quite bad. Do remember it's distantly related to PCP..


IMO you probably don't need more than 30mg rectal unless you really rack up a major tolerance.

30mg it is!! I actually really trust your judgement Folley! It's just we are hard heads for everything it seems... We are a 6 hit of acid couple (each of us - me and the girlfriend). We can always do a bump if it's not enough!! I'm only planning on trying the DiPT later after the MXE is wearing off a bit.
Also, last time I tried 100mg MXE with 30 mg 4-aco-MET and the MXE seemed to totally over power the 4-aco-met for some reason???
During the peak I got a few open eye MET visuals but that it! I was very surprised, I was expecting the MXE to potentiates the 4-aco-met but this did not seem to happen for me??
 
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