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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine (MXE) Thread - Chapter 14

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From my experience, two 30mg doses spread out by 30 minutes to an hour is much more rewarding than a single 60mg line to the dome. Things get really hectic on high doses of dissociatives, and it's pretty much likely to overpower anything less powerful than DMT if you aren't careful. Spacing out the doses really lets you control your level of dissociation instead of flinging yourself into the abyss, and of course you can always dose more




The few times I tried rectal I followed it up with a nasal line of a similar size and that would give me some incredible yet functional dissociation.
 
Ok, it's times like this I'm so thankfull for bluelight! I just shot 30mg up the butt and felt nothing at all for 10 mins then BAM major first alert! And it's steadily increasing every minute. This is nothing like nasal administration which takes like 2 hours to get where I'm already at right now.
This is coming on strong! And I'm stoked! I will report back about the DiPT. Suddenly finding it difficult to even finish this post. Holy shit, ROA is a huge deal with this one!!!
 
I've been abusing this stuff like crazy for the last couple of weeks. Doing ~150mgs every night after work and ~300-400mgs on my 2 days off. I've noticed a dull pain developing in my left shoulder and chest, bout to put this stuff in storage for a month or so. Could anyone recommend a starting dosage of 3-MeO-PCP for someone who experiences mild to moderate effects from insufflating 100mgs of mxe?
 
i'm posting this to add that be careful with your dosing. i know it is said over-an-over, again-and-again, but everyone makes mistakes. plan your doses for the night before you start ur ride! and with what RoAs too.

couple of weeks ago i snorted couple bumps(30mg total) of mxe, and was fine. wanted it to be stronger. just chilled at home.


Last night i went to a party, deiced a nice small dose ~15mg would be a good. this time i did oral. I hadn't eaten, in one hour i felt the come-up and was feeling amazing mxe drunk. sometime soon later, i felt very over-whelmed, and i decided i needed to sit alone - i had negative/confusing thoughts (it wasn't that bad, because i will still feeling the good effects from the mXe). but i had thoughts that i wish i stayed home and just smoked pot tonight. It was hard to keep my eyes open for long , i just wanted to lay there and close them. this felt more like dxm in a way haha. it just the setting i was in. @home i would of been way better.


felt like i was sitting there for 30 minutes, then i could start to handle the effects. kind of felt like the peak had finished, and i can get up and move. I had the strong 'come-down' or after effects. you know how it feels . decided to wait a big longer, and took another 10mg before we left to gig, i thought it would be perfect timing as the mxe first dose would wear off. ended up being perfect and took another 10mg oral later in the night.


weird that only 15 mg oral did that to me though, that was much stronger than the 30mg snorted. which isnt always the case. heh this stuff can be so unpredictable even if you are experienced. (im not experienced with mxe compared to others on bl, but i do love it)
 
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yeah, 40mg snorted had me pretty fucked for a few hours yesterday. I couldnt have been anywhere but home, I was not functional at all to be in a public place. But I smoked ganja and drank a beer or two too. I knew not to redose because i would have been floored.

weird that only 15 mg oral did that to me though, that was much stronger than the 30mg snorted. which isnt always the case. heh this stuff can be so unpredictable even if you are experienced.

This could've been just set & settings thing
 
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I remember reading something about chest pains and MXE. Im feeling slight pain in my chest today, its weird. I only took 40mg yesterday and before that its been weeks I last did MXE. and I have never abused mxe, so it couldnt be mxe causing this? I have drank alcohol 2 days in a row being pretty plastered every night too..
 
Ok, it's times like this I'm so thankfull for bluelight! I just shot 30mg up the butt and felt nothing at all for 10 mins then BAM major first alert! And it's steadily increasing every minute. This is nothing like nasal administration which takes like 2 hours to get where I'm already at right now.
This is coming on strong! And I'm stoked! I will report back about the DiPT. Suddenly finding it difficult to even finish this post. Holy shit, ROA is a huge deal with this one!!!

ah, yeh yeh, do report back =D

Like I said, its like a different drug entirely. Dont redose too much rectal or you will find out what INTENSITY means and how its more than you'd want.
 
I don't know how else to say this but it actually ended up being the worst MXE experience I've had so far. I did not even get to the DiPT. I did the 30mg rectal dose and it had a sudden and sort of intense come up then tapered off right away to a very very manageable level. And didn't seem to go anywhere after 2 hours. So we redosed nasally several times, back to the old 25mg every hour bump. All night no visuals, no hole hole experience just kinda lingering stimulation this time?!?!? So I'm very very confused. My GF has not come close to what I experienced and I really wanted her to reach the gorgeous MXE space I've told her about.
We ended up doing about 30mg rectally and waited 2 hours to see where it would bring us and it never got anywhere more than an anesthetic body feel. We then re-dosed nasally 25mg bumps every hour for about 3 hours. In total over about 12 hours it was 30mg rectal and 75-100mg nasally and no psychedelia at all this time?!?!? No hole experience whatsoever. It just got very confusing towards the end of the night. And my GF is pretty much like so why is this stuff so special??? I have had 3 glorious experiences with this wonderful stuff but this time it was just like it only teasesd us the whole night. No magic at all.
It must have been a mistake in how we dosed as the whole night felt like one ridiculously long come up then that's it.
At the peak where I was sure we would be going into the "hole" we went to bed and had the string urge to lay down so after all that I kept telling her "I think we're near the hole now" but absolutley zero mental images and I actually got the sudden urge to puke twice which I did (may have actually been unrelated) ended up stumbling to the bathroom and did purge on 2 seperate occasions.
There seems to be such a long delay in the psychedelic effects and you run into the situation where it's like should I take more to ensure I get to the hole or did I take too much and shoot past the hole and now it's just a dysphoric experience??? I think this is what happened but I'm not sure, still coming down form the experience but it was a total disaster and i need to a much better dosing strategy. Seemed to work great with staggered nasal doses. Not sure how much would be a good rectal dose for us??? Should we have waited longer than the 2-2&1/2 hour point before we jumped the gun and redosed???
 
Hmm, weird, when I got to the hole what I did was take 40mg orally, and then 40 minutes later I took 20mg rectally, and within 5 minutes of the rectal dose the CEVs were starting, and then 30 minutes later I was wondering if I was dead (in a good way).
 
Honestly, I think sometimes MXE is just like that. There are times it can be very cold and harsh, and other times where it is like a warm blanket of comfort... it's very unpredictable at times, while being very habitual in other aspects.

It'a so uniquely diverse... FUCK. I need to stop talking about it and get my hands on some again 8(
 
It was very,very strange. This was my fifth experience with this chemical , first time was just a small allergy test. After that first test, I had 3 amazing experiences. This last time was supposed to be one final test before bringing it to our research group for a group trial next weekend.
I'm really hoping this was some MXE weirdness. I'm thinking our mistake was waiting 2.5 hours before resdosing. It seemed like after the rectally dose and waiting all that time, every single re-dose just seemed to prolong the come up?!?!?
I have only done MXE once a month a few times so tolorance should be no issue. I've had such success dosing nasally (stagard doses) that I was sure we'd be in the hole last night. MXE is a weird one that's for sure.
As a side note I'm glad we watched the film Gravity. Perfect movie to watch on MXE. The whole movie felt like it was 20 mins long!!
I will report back next weekend after the group trial. Thank you all for your advice , even though it did not go as planned last night I am very thankfull for everyone's wisdom. Especially Asante, Xorxoth, and Folley. There are not a lot of people who's posts I look forward to reading on over here but I eagerly await to read your posts. Thanks guys! Hopefully better luck next time!


Edit: The group trial is out of the question after reflection. I don't have very much of this stuff and It's next to immpossible to find around here. I don't want to waste what I have left and I don't want my crew going through a night of utter confusion and frustration. I think this stuff requires further personal research to figure this out a bit more. I feel like I want to go back to my orgininal strategy of 25mg bumps every hour... But I'm thinking maybe of trying it every 30mins instead of every hour to see if that brings on the psychedelic aspects a bit more. Or is it more strategic to just try a single larger dose to get towards hole territory?
I'm not even going to attempt again until next month so I'm curious to hear any advice about hole dosing strategies. 30mg rectal was absolutly not doing it.
I'm also curious, how long after a single big dose does it take for you guys for the psychedelic effects to come in? When I've been using staggered nasal dosages of 25mg every hour it isn't until the 3rd bump / 3 hours in that it starts to get interesting for me.
 
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Nope, redosing is the way to go with MXE.

Strategy wise for reaching the hole, do you think small doses every 30mins would be more optimal or small doses every hour? It seems to me like if you do too much at once or if you wait too long to redoes your just gonna miss the hole??? Am I wrong here??? If this is the case, with my limited knowledge it would lead me to suspect that the Psychedelic effects are being caused by MXE entering and re-entering your system and it's metabolites have nothing to do with it. It seems like you are trying to achieve a build up of pure MXE in the system that over powers the ammount of metabolites being produced for a short period ( the hole). I'm probably way wrong here but this drugs interactions in the human body are very seemingly weird.
 
There's an initial tolerance that your body seems to build to MXE the first time you use it in a day. If you use it in the morning than try using again at night it will usually be much less effective than if you didn't dose that morning.

I'd say up your initial dose and try not to redose TOO late. Redosing large amounts over extended periods of time is much more likely to cause MXE to be less friendly, as well as dosing large amounts in a single go. It might be best to avoid rectal until you get more of a hang for the drug though, it packs a punch that's saying a LOT when we're talking about MXE
 
Has anybody noticed that if say your tolerance has you at ( 50-75mg) for a pre hole or slightly less dose.

That when you run out and only ingest say 10-25mg it can have a potent rewarding factor ( no heavy intoxication) but a still pronounced effect on mood and even potentiation of other compounds?
 
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