The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine (MXE) Thread - Chapter 14
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foolsgold
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snap dan shame innit i think the cannabinoids are best left alone on mxe as well that stuffs just to uncontrollable to mix with something mxe
I think hash and mxe together is an amazing combo. Nowadays I have too much anxiety to enjoy it, but a few years back before the UK ban I enjoyed it a whole lot.
vortech
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I'm interested in the pharmacology of the residual stimulation present after the primary effects of MXE wear off. I really wish I knew more about NMDA receptors and glutamate in particular. Could the residual stimulation and/or 'afterglow' be the effect of increased glutamate levels in the brain? Is this question better posted in the neuroscience forum?
sethtripdinahole
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ido mxe about every day and i just happened tofind myself on this thread after making it inside i was outside for a duration of time i cant even quantify because right before i stepped out i did a nightcap iv of mxe no clue how much just whatever i slapped on the spoon. ite seems important that i express the jesus christ bananas still! i dont know how long i was out there or what happened. initially i was going out to smoke a cig i did ithink i may have smoked that cigarett a couple times i remember the whole expiriance but i dont know if i can remember it. now im gonna go have another smoke since im done writing about the last one i dont think ill need to add any more moon boots for this one tho ill keep em back for tomorrow and the day after that etc...
LucidSDreamr
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its a glorious feeling that after glow isnit it? amazing for doing exercise on. Its such a clean stimulation with zero crash.
vortech
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It can be glorious if not too much MXE is used. There's a 'sweet spot' that maximizes the primary effects and also gives the afterglow a chance to ride out. The residual stimulation can be uncomfortable after overindulging. In those cases the residual stimulation feels like it is stacked from x number of consecutive doses. In the worst cases of post-binge I call it outright withdrawal.
If I dose less than 100mg in a day I find the afterglow to be nice the following day. If I dose, say, 200mg in a day (not hard to do with moderate tolerance and multiple doses), the residual stimulation on the following day feels less like an afterglow. I'd call it barely perceptibly annoying if I'm not distracting myself away from it. This can cause an urge to redose to get rid of that feeling (it does do a great job of eliminating it), and I suspect this is one of the snares that make a lot of users go at it every day until their stash is gone. If I do follow through with redosing and end up doing 200mg a day for 5 days, on the 6th day it is more than barely perceptibly annoying, it is straight up uncomfortable and it can get me moody for a day or two.
My point is that this drug is much better when used in such a way that allows the full envelope of the experience to unfold. It doesn't end 4-6 hours after your last dose. It takes a day or possibly even two to come back to baseline. If you redose more often then that you will end up with diminishing returns, increase tolerance and possible even *gasp* LOSE THE MAGIC! haha just kidding about the magic. All I ever need is a week or two break to bring the full magic back even after a thorough binge.
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LucidSDreamr
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Everyone likes to tout mushrooms and acid ad the real "teachers" but mxe is on to something. they say mdma is the love drug fuck that....mdma is the empathy drug but the real LOVE drug is mxe. ....does anyone agree? After the peak/comedown of mxe I always start thinking about REAL love like my family and girlfriend and all that stuff.....i mean it gets tickled when i trip psychedelics but therree is something else going on with mxe.....its
Xorkoth
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I agree, my peak experience on MXE was extraordinary, if I hadn't experienced ego loss before it would have been my paradigm-shifting moment, I went farther out there than I have ever been before in a certain way.
I don't really get the great aftereffects that people talk about but the experience itself was VERY psychedelic.
I don't really get the great aftereffects that people talk about but the experience itself was VERY psychedelic.
Indeed. With stimulants the happiness and the love feels sort of dirty you could say, but with mxe it feels more genuine in a way if that makes sense. It's different and very special, that's for sure.
StickyChron
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I've never done MXE before, what is a good hearty starting dose for a day outside in the sun? I want to be able to swim and move around without drowning, but I also want it to be intense, any suggestions?
xammy
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It's not a drug for "a day outside in the sun" imo.. but 15-20mg should be enough if its your first time.
If you're new to dissociatives, i'd say 30mg. Maybe do 15mg and see how you feel and do an additional 15mg bump like an hour or a half hour later. Make sure to do a 5mg allergy test though before you take any recreational dose
Enquandriant
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Hello denizens of bluelight,
I believe this is either my first post or the first one in a long time..
Anyway, I had a question, but first some backstory (or skip to the tl;dr before the question(s))..
tl;dr: MXE caused kidney problems within hours of my second usage...
So, my question boils down to:
Is it possible I have an impure, or tainted batch of MXE, or are these effects just a sign that my body can not deal with MXE at all?
I hope it's the former, as after experiencing what I have, I very much want to use it to m-hole again sometime around 4 weeks from now.. maybe sooner, within the 2nd ord 3rd week from now..
Thanks for any advice anyone cares to offer.
Edit: and apparently spoiler tags don't work.. ;-;
I believe this is either my first post or the first one in a long time..
Anyway, I had a question, but first some backstory (or skip to the tl;dr before the question(s))..
So, I recently I acquired some single gram of MXE, and, after a trepidatious waiting period, decided to take a small allergy dose. I took 1 mg and waited, then after I decided it wasn't going to kill me, I took 5 mg.. this of course led to redosing and a very nice buzz for a few hours.
Having tried it, I waited 5 days and tried it again, around 45 mg, combined with 45 mg dpt, and had a nice trip and all. HOWEVER,
as the effects started to wear down I started to expireince collicy kidney pain, of raising intensity.
At the time I thought it was just a stone that had already been there, that the dehydration from the day before had made me start passing it. I thought it a bit odd, as I am generally very healthy, however, I do consume a lot of protein, and oxalates -> ... etc.
I thought nothing of it, despite the intense pain until I started to have urinary retention.
I worried for a short while, but eventually passed the stone and in a stream of urine. At the time I didn't think about it, but the stone passing didn't hurt.. As in, I didn't really feel it at all. Anyway, I calmed down, thinking the ordeal over, as the pain subsided. But a few hours later the pain was back and FAR FAR FAR worse. (for context.. it takes a lot of pain to make me cry.. as in, I have never cried from pain before, and I've endured a lot.. but I broke down from these kidney pains..) I ended up going to urgent care, they sent me to the emergency room, and 8 hours, a cat scan, iv drip, and a lecture from a doctor about how if I can afford to eat I can afford health care, even if I don't have insurance later I left, feeling a bit better.
I was told I had another stone, 5 mm, that I should pass soon, and to keep drinking (but it should pass very soon with the amount of fluid I was given). I filtered my urine for a week... but the stone never past... the pain didn't return...
I waited two weeks and then decided (after enrolling in medi-cal) to take a dose looking for the elusive m-hole. I achieved it, drank fuck tonnes of water, and what not. But even still I had terrible collicy kidney pains the next day.. which eventually subsided with a combination of norco, lemon juice, and water.
I had heard of, and read about the kidney issues and bladder toxicity etc. of prolonged or high dose usage, however, my dosage never exceeded 70 mg.. and I consumed a total of ~160 mg over the course of 3 and a half weeks.. and I received these symptoms after my first usage. (since doing this, I've done lots of research into the matter, and it seems ketamine can clump together inside the kidney, in a gummy type blockage, as a form of uropathy, but STILL, never on a first usage, and only after prolonged/high dose usage
Having tried it, I waited 5 days and tried it again, around 45 mg, combined with 45 mg dpt, and had a nice trip and all. HOWEVER,
as the effects started to wear down I started to expireince collicy kidney pain, of raising intensity.
At the time I thought it was just a stone that had already been there, that the dehydration from the day before had made me start passing it. I thought it a bit odd, as I am generally very healthy, however, I do consume a lot of protein, and oxalates -> ... etc.
I thought nothing of it, despite the intense pain until I started to have urinary retention.
I worried for a short while, but eventually passed the stone and in a stream of urine. At the time I didn't think about it, but the stone passing didn't hurt.. As in, I didn't really feel it at all. Anyway, I calmed down, thinking the ordeal over, as the pain subsided. But a few hours later the pain was back and FAR FAR FAR worse. (for context.. it takes a lot of pain to make me cry.. as in, I have never cried from pain before, and I've endured a lot.. but I broke down from these kidney pains..) I ended up going to urgent care, they sent me to the emergency room, and 8 hours, a cat scan, iv drip, and a lecture from a doctor about how if I can afford to eat I can afford health care, even if I don't have insurance later I left, feeling a bit better.
I was told I had another stone, 5 mm, that I should pass soon, and to keep drinking (but it should pass very soon with the amount of fluid I was given). I filtered my urine for a week... but the stone never past... the pain didn't return...
I waited two weeks and then decided (after enrolling in medi-cal) to take a dose looking for the elusive m-hole. I achieved it, drank fuck tonnes of water, and what not. But even still I had terrible collicy kidney pains the next day.. which eventually subsided with a combination of norco, lemon juice, and water.
I had heard of, and read about the kidney issues and bladder toxicity etc. of prolonged or high dose usage, however, my dosage never exceeded 70 mg.. and I consumed a total of ~160 mg over the course of 3 and a half weeks.. and I received these symptoms after my first usage. (since doing this, I've done lots of research into the matter, and it seems ketamine can clump together inside the kidney, in a gummy type blockage, as a form of uropathy, but STILL, never on a first usage, and only after prolonged/high dose usage
tl;dr: MXE caused kidney problems within hours of my second usage...
So, my question boils down to:
Is it possible I have an impure, or tainted batch of MXE, or are these effects just a sign that my body can not deal with MXE at all?
I hope it's the former, as after experiencing what I have, I very much want to use it to m-hole again sometime around 4 weeks from now.. maybe sooner, within the 2nd ord 3rd week from now..
Thanks for any advice anyone cares to offer.
if relevant, my mxe is white, tastes of salt, and is larger crystals/granules that look like table salt.
Edit: and apparently spoiler tags don't work.. ;-;
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ColtDan
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Seriously wouldn't advise going in the water on the stuff, especially not on a first try. 15-20mg as said. and remember it takes awhile to kick in
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StickyChron
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Is there a reason why swimming would be any more dangerous than say walking down stairs or something? I'm not talking about the ocean either, its a river with a very slow current. I just wanted to chill in the water.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-601qHmIBN5g/TmPfQHXhrnI/AAAAAAAADZw/QNdjcN5PdxI/s1600/IMG_0878.jpg This is basically exactly what I'm talking about minus the people.
no, just take it easy man. You'll be fine at those low doses. I'm sure you will have a good time. mxe is great inside in the dark in front of the computer, but it's also amazing out in the nature. Again, just take it easy and you'll be fine. I think the reason coltdan won't recommend it is because mxe can be very confusing if you're new to it, but personally on a 20-30mg dose I feel you won't be too confused about anything honestly.
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