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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine(2-(3-methoxyphenyl)-2-(ethylamino)cyclohexanone) Thread

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it takes about half an hour nasal to notice the peak and seems to last between two and three hours until all effects are gone

Sublingual is quite different then. ~50mg gives me:

0:30 first signs
1:30 Start of peak
3:30 End of peak
7:00 End of significant effects, able to sleep.

Also I don't have any serious trouble making it to the toilet although I do have trouble with my reflection in the mirror when I get there!

The one time I sniffed I thought the effects were quite weak. I've consumed ~475mg total.

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On the "vendor talk" I think some people have taken things way out of proportion and taken it upon themselves to chastise others in rather unpleasant tones.

I think we are indeed capable of policing ourselves, I just don't personally think there have been any significant infractions of the rules in this thread. I also think people could be more polite when they decide to chastise other people.

Showing respect is in the rules too!


Any rule is open to interpretation and the mods are the ones who are given that power. It is unseemly when people, who are not mods, decide that their interpretation is the only possible or valid one and then express anger and even disgust when other people don't share that interpretation.

I specifically refer to Amanitadine's attitude in the post which started all this claptrap:
Result. Wednesday/Thursday dispatch for me.

Looking forward to sampling this product, and this thread to ignite!
And what relevance does your business dealings with a vendor have to do with this drug? Jesus. So many in this thread seem to willingly ignore the no-vendor discussion. It gets old. This thread is cluttered with half-veiled vendor talk.

Enough.

I think a lot of the posts on here are sailing close to vendor discussion,

This comes over as superior, dismissive and insulting; also in my interpretation it's a huge over reaction. There is no vendor talk here! YES it is off-topic, YES it's close to the wind, NO you don't have to be a dickhead about it.

Note I am not defending myself here, as I don't recall engaging in vendor talk. I am just making an observation.
 
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Source of this information? They've been announcing intentions to do so for a while, but I can't find any evidence on the OPSI site that they've done anything like the above claim. the nearest thing I can find is something on the home office site saying that it'll be in place by the end of next year.

Sorry, you are right.

I read a few articles on the guardian and got over-excited.

non rush for the moment, then :)
 
Sublingual is quite different then. ~50mg gives me:

0:30 first signs
1:30 Start of peak
3:30 End of peak
7:00 End of significant effects, able to sleep.

To confirm, are you saying the effects off a sublingual dose were "better" (stronger/longer lasting/more noticable) than a simular dose insufflated?
 
To confirm, are you saying the effects off a sublingual dose were "better" (stronger/longer lasting/more noticable) than a simular dose insufflated?

That's definitely my experience. I've only taken an intranasal dose once, but the results led me to continue with the sub-lingual route. I started with sub-lingual because someone else in this thread recommended it as "better" and it does seem to be true. It would be useful to hear more reports on this though.

It seems sensible to avoid putting powders up the nose, if only because it has not evolved to accept solids, unlike the mouth.
 
ive heard people say this has some opiate/opiod effects,,true/false

True. Next!

F&B, who is something of an expert on this, noticed withdrawal symptoms like opiate withdrawals after a few days use.

I can't say I've noticed anything but it's been weekend-only for me. And I'd be hard-pressed to identify opiate effects as such but there are definite warm fuzzy feelings, except when it makes you feel cold...
 
i also experienced light but distinct opioid withdrawal symptoms after some frequent use.

sublingual administration seems more potent than insufflation to me, too.
it dissolves easily in water and the solution appears to be relatively stable..
 
Got some coming through along with some aMT this morning hopefully! Will post another report over the next couple of days. Will compare different ROAs to see whether sublingual really is best. Sorry to bring it up, but in the name of harm reduction this batch is apparently as pure (if not purer) than the previous one according to the vendor. Would be nice to get some independant verification of this. Will borrow my friends marquis test later and post the results.
 
I managed to get a 100mg sample the first time round and myself and fiancee did the lot in one line (50mg each). This definitely caused disassociation and a "M-Hole". we were lying on the bed facing each other, and for some time we both felt like we were made of small "Toblerone size" triangles which inter-mingled, and for about an hour we both felt like one being, feeling each others thoughts etc, as the triangles swirled around each other.

Our 1g order turned up yesterday, but both being tired we decided to take things easy. First snorting 25mg each then 15mg an hour later then another 10mg after another hour. Although feeling a connection with each other it was nothing like the single 50mg line previously.
We're going for it again tonight, but with 50mg each as a starting point.

Let you know how we got on later.
 
Mine arrived today. 50mg sublingually/orally around 10 minutes ago (8pm).

Very very slightly altered feelings at the moment - feel slightly calm, physically slightly relaxed (like I've just had one drink). Sitting at home watching t'telleh with a cuppa tea (decaf, too - yawn ;o) in hand.

Will be an interesting hour or two (three...?)... =o)

/deckmunki
 
I can imagine this thread will be busy over the next while.

deckmunki: what is your experience with ketamine? Interested as to whether you will be able to draw parallels or differences between the two.
 
Have many people tried plugging this substance,? This is my favourite method of administration for a lot of substances as it leads to a quick onset and higher bioavailability, is this also true for methoxetamine?
 
I can imagine this thread will be busy over the next while.

deckmunki: what is your experience with ketamine? Interested as to whether you will be able to draw parallels or differences between the two.

Lots of ketty randomness a couple of years ago living in Ibz. UK ket has been resoundingly crap sadly :( Numerous experiences with ket, tiletamine, MDMA and NO2 in varying ratios, generally sensible, rarely ott.

Subjectively, the experience is much as F&B reported; I'm (+53 minutes in) feeling a bit dissociated, woozy, things are "breathing", but I can get up and walk around. It's not particularly psychedelic yet and I'm still typing around 20wpm (50+wpm in my day job as a superhero. Ahem).

My sense of touch is definitely ketted, but I'm experiencing none of the downsides yet (body load, occasional nausea, dark thoughts...?), and not dissociated.

Will see how things progress and may see if NO2 potentiates.

Not going to let this turn into a daft bloody live trip report thing though. ;o)
 
I think live reports are effectively banned on BL anyway... but I for one would be interested to know how you're progressing...

generally sensible, rarely ott.

Good job, me too! =D
 
I give up. No one puts this in a needle and jams it in their shoulder??? Screw that up the nose or swishing it around in your mouth stuff. I wanna experience interplanetary travel. I'll give my report of 50mg in a needle and then 100mg 2hrs after that, when I get my Mxe. Who knows, maybe I'll surprise myself with just the 50mg shot into my shoulder..
 
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