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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine(2-(3-methoxyphenyl)-2-(ethylamino)cyclohexanone) Thread

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So any comments on the quality of batch 2 yet?
Just recieved my order today and want to know if its still the real deal.
 
deckmunki said:
p.s. Knockando: if we're in the same situation again, we will definitely titrate up from a 1/10 or 1/20th normal dose; I think I was a bit blasé about methoxetamine because of it's structural similarity to ketamine; obviously my pre-GCSE-standard chemistry knowledge falls a little short of understanding that that similarity's no guarantee of anything at all ;o)
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My apologies to both you and your missus, it sounds like an unpleasant and terrifying experience. But not too unusual of one, sounds most just like a classic "break", from too high of a dose of an un-familiar drug. People are gonna vary in their sensitivity to this substance!

I think we will probably hear a bit more of this sort of thing over the next while. For all of its velvety soft goodness, methoxetamine is still a potent arylcyclohexylamine, and a very unexplored one at that. And even with that extra comfy mu agonism, it still has an apparently much higher ratio of DRI activity to NMDA antagonism than ketamine....meaning it aint necessarily gonna konk you out, can speed you up more and elicit more of an anxiety producing result, and that it is a very different substance and should be treated as such. Please titrate up<3

I hope the missus is feeling better, and I hope her grief can save many others future grief:)

cheers<3
 
Xtc <3 said:
So any comments on the quality of batch 2 yet?
Just recieved my order today and want to know if its still the real deal.
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I've dosed 30mg of batch 2 about an hour ago, didn't try batch 1 so I can't compare but so far i'm impressed. Nice amount of dissociation mixed with warm feelings and a bit of music appreciation, i'm nicely chilled out but i'm not to spaced out. So far it's got the thumbs up from me.
 
Received 100mg sample yesterday. Bright white powder, small crunchy crystals.

Just insufflated 25mg about 10 minutes ago. Not feeling anything yet. If it reaches 20.50 and still nothing, I'm going to take the rest. I have a huge tolerance to ketamine and have read on other sites that it shares a tolerance so I think it's going to be all or nothing with the small amount I have.

I will post what happens either later tonight or tomorrow.
 
I should have received a 100mg sample yesterday but the Royal Mail have decided to be twats and not deliver my post for the past few days!
 
Devo_ said:
Received 100mg sample yesterday. Bright white powder, small crunchy crystals.

Just insufflated 25mg about 10 minutes ago. Not feeling anything yet. If it reaches 20.50 and still nothing, I'm going to take the rest. I have a huge tolerance to ketamine and have read on other sites that it shares a tolerance so I think it's going to be all or nothing with the small amount I have.

I will post what happens either later tonight or tomorrow.
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You're very impatient! It takes 30 minutes for first effects to kick in.
 
Sniffed 50mg about 2 hours ago. Not much in the way of dissociative effects, some opiate feelings. Just sniffed another 50mg, we'll see what happens...

I'm quite a big guy and have a moderate k tolerance but from what i'd been reading i was expecting more.
 
Took the remaining 75mg at around 9pm, and all I have is a warm slight ketty feeling.

I'd wager that my tolerance to Ketamine means that I need to take a much higher dose than most people trying this for this first time. I might buy a bigger amount in the future, but I am in no rush. I'll wait until more people have tried and tested this chemical.

In the meantime, I'm gonna stick to the good ol' kev.
 
deckmunki said:
The first warning signs started about 30 minutes after Mrs Deckmunki took 40mg methoxetamine orally. She became tensed, alert and started looking around.

It became quite quickly apparent that she was in a state of confusion/delerium, repeating actions and phrases, and becoming unaware of where she was.

Mrs Deckmunki spent the next hour or so in the vicinity of the loo and in a state of clear confusion, alternating between a state of coherent panic, coherence, abject panic ("I'm going to die, aren't I?") and vomiting.
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I have seen and dealt with this situation before so I can fully understand how scary and worrying it all is - especially if you are also under the influence of a substance - especially one that has psychedelic properties.

Things that I have learned:

1. It's only a temporary situation. It will pass. Patience and time are required.
2. Remain calm. Even if you are scared or worried, try to not let it show and convey the image that you are fine. Fear is infectious. Panicking will make it a lot worse!
3. Talk to the person. Think of general things to talk about that don't have anything to do with the current situation or environment. This, in my opinion, has two effects: It takes their mind off what is happening to them and keeps them grounded in reality.
4. Keep an eye on breathing, temperature and, if you can, heart rate. Don't do it in such a way so it seems that you are checking them - be subtle!


I am not sure why or how it happens, but some of the symptoms of Ketamine (and I assume MXE) are similar to those of schizophrenia. So this detachment from reality (which is what psychosis is, I suppose) is what makes some people confused. It does seem odd though that sometimes even a low dose can trigger it - yet other times, much high doses have no such effect.
 
Me and a friend dosed 15mg and 16mg respectively, at about 21:30, so the effects should start happpening soon?, what should we expect and should we dose any higher aka bump, or drink alcholol?.
 
Mercc96 said:
Me and a friend dosed 15mg and 16mg respectively, at about 21:30, so the effects should start happpening soon?, what should we expect and should we dose any higher aka bump, or drink alcholol?.
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I would always advise to not drink alcohol with any other drug. %)

15mg is a good starting dose. The effects should be noticeable in about 20 minutes - ie: about now!
 
yeah, we decided not to drink anymore alcohol. But we went outside for a ciggerette and completefly forgot how to smoke. I wish to intensify the trip slightly, would dosing 5mg in a little bit ago be a good idea?
 
7zark7 said:
I have seen and dealt with this situation before so I can fully understand how scary and worrying it all is - especially if you are also under the influence of a substance - especially one that has psychedelic properties.

Things that I have learned:

1. It's only a temporary situation. It will pass. Patience and time are required.
2. Remain calm. Even if you are scared or worried, try to not let it show and convey the image that you are fine. Fear is infectious. Panicking will make it a lot worse!
3. Talk to the person. Think of general things to talk about that don't have anything to do with the current situation or environment. This, in my opinion, has two effects: It takes their mind off what is happening to them and keeps them grounded in reality.
4. Keep an eye on breathing, temperature and, if you can, heart rate. Don't do it in such a way so it seems that you are checking them - be subtle!


I am not sure why or how it happens, but some of the symptoms of Ketamine (and I assume MXE) are similar to those of schizophrenia. So this detachment from reality (which is what psychosis is, I suppose) is what makes some people confused. It does seem odd though that sometimes even a low dose can trigger it - yet other times, much high doses have no such effect.
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Hey 7zark7, again you're a voice of reason - Mrs D and I are sitting here reading this and largely agreeing with everything you say here.

Points 1, 2, 3 and 4 are spot-on and I can only hope that I managed ok with them while looking after Mrs D. Pulse was surprisingly steady around the 75-85 mark throughout when I took a reading - we have BP and HR monitoring here but it's such a faff to put it on that it would undoubtedly have upset Mrs D more than it would have been worth.

Ketamine is (I think?) medically cited as being a drug which can induce schizotypal behaviour - my limited medical understanding leads me to think that this isn't a million miles from the kind of reaction last night saw.

Strangest of all is that I can empathise with Mrs D's experience because of the two truly scary "holes" I've found myself in in recent months thanks to what seems to have been tiletamine rather than ket. Yes, ketamine is messy, but the mental confusion and repeating loops I found myself in having taken too much tiletamine really hurt my head for a few days afterwards.
 
Devo_ said:
Took the remaining 75mg at around 9pm, and all I have is a warm slight ketty feeling.

I'd wager that my tolerance to Ketamine means that I need to take a much higher dose than most people trying this for this first time. I might buy a bigger amount in the future, but I am in no rush. I'll wait until more people have tried and tested this chemical.

In the meantime, I'm gonna stick to the good ol' kev.
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I feel sorry for people who aren't getting the effects I get. I have been taking this on almost weekly basis for a couple of months and tonight's 75mg was truly an eye opener. It was a personal Armageddon scenario, Knockando as the chief protagonist, infused with high drama and suspense. Technology became fluid, I was plugged into cyberspace through my 16Mb uplink and the GSM network. My flat became a collection of stage sets where myriad plot lines were enacted, I was audience and performer all at once.

I made noises that would waken the dead and was fearful of discovery, fortunately no-one alerted the authorities.

How can people say they just get a "warm" feeling? Tolerance, I'm sure, but fuck!
 
knockando said:
I feel sorry for people who aren't getting the effects I get. I have been taking this on almost weekly basis for a couple of months and tonight's 75mg was truly an eye opener. It was a personal Armageddon scenario, Knockando as the chief protagonist, infused with high drama and suspense. Technology became fluid, I was plugged into cyberspace through my 16Mb uplink and the GSM network. My flat became a collection of stage sets where myriad plot lines were enacted, I was audience and performer all at once.

I made noises that would waken the dead and was fearful of discovery, fortunately no-one alerted the authorities.

How can people say they just get a "warm" feeling? Tolerance, I'm sure, but fuck!
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That's so hilarious.. I know what you mean about the average reports, maybe its genetic or something... slightly concerned about this Armageddon scenario.. what do you mean? did you have some kind of premonition?
 
With 50mg. (25mg x 2 with about a hour between).

There was a nice dissociative feeling to it. There were times where I was lost and didn't know what to do and why, but always in a warm giggely kind a way. I must have looked quite funny when I was out to get some grocerys.

The duration was about 3-4 hours and it have nice warm afterglow. I fell asleep quite easily.

It's much better compared to 4-MeO-PCP. None of that worn out / dirty feeling the day after.

I have to do some more test before I can say more and have to try other ROA. This time I snorted it, which I don't necessarily prefer. But this substanse definitely has potential!
 
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