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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine(2-(3-methoxyphenyl)-2-(ethylamino)cyclohexanone) Thread

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so can anyone tell me from experience whats the best way to take this stuff? i was thinking 50mg in a capsule is this too under or overwhelming? or is it best snorted?

btw i'm experienced with drugs so i do like to take my doses on the high side
 
Dilute and administer rectally <3

lol i forgot to mention i'm not into that plugging business please don't say anything like 'don't
knock it til you tried it' etc i just don't wanna do it this way and even if i did it would be very hard to try convince my mates its the best way haha :)

but thanks for advice anyway =D

so would 50mg in a capsule be enough you think? i might snort a line of it halfway through the trip too all depends how strong the oral dose is.

would like to know a bit moreabout the stuff like how long it lasts etc what the effects are like and can you go out in public on this stuff or is it just too noticable?
 
lol i forgot to mention i'm not into that plugging business please don't say anything like 'don't
knock it til you tried it' etc i just don't wanna do it this way and even if i did it would be very hard to try convince my mates its the best way haha :)

but thanks for advice anyway =D

so would 50mg in a capsule be enough you think? i might snort a line of it halfway through the trip too all depends how strong the oral dose is.

would like to know a bit moreabout the stuff like how long it lasts etc what the effects are like and can you go out in public on this stuff or is it just too noticable?

The information you seek is contained in the thread, boy! Do some work!

Also it seems odd that you turn up at this point in time, a point in time when the genuine chemical has not been available for a few weeks.
 
The information you seek is contained in the thread, boy! Do some work!

Also it seems odd that you turn up at this point in time, a point in time when the genuine chemical has not been available for a few weeks.

i not got any yet but i got some on pre order for when the genuine stuff comes which should hopefully be by next week so i'm gathering some info on it before i try. :\
 
i not got any yet but i got some on pre order for when the genuine stuff comes which should hopefully be by next week so i'm gathering some info on it before i try. :\

OK good, just checking!

I'm feeling benevolent now so here are some dosing details from my notebook.

My preferred dosing routine (I'm doing it as I type :) )is to put between 25mg and 50mg under my tongue and leave it till my mouth fills with methoxetmine/saliva solution then swish it about and gargle it for a minute before swallowing it. Seems to hit harder and faster than sniffing. I find sniffing this is a bit of a waste of the chemical. I wouldn't cap it either, why waste precious lovely drugs in the stomach. You want this in your bloodstream not your toilet. If you insist on capping then you probably need to up the dose but why bother?

Main effects last 3-6+ hours depending on the dose - by this I mean on 50mg there's no way I could sleep till after the sixth hour. I've always fallen asleep while residual effects were present, so I can't say when it's completely over. Antidepressant effects last for several days!

Effects at the lower end include humour, euphoria, stimulation, empathy and loss of motor control. As you increase dosage these all increase but the psychedelic side grows too and brings with it the potential for luxurious CEVs and even mild OEVs.

I haven't gone above 50mg yet, I am trying to conserve my supplies! For a first time, even if you think you are hard, I would keep below 40mg.

I find it to be incompatible with large amounts of alcohol. Only mushies and this make me feel like that. Using methoxetamine has made me cut down my drinking significantly. I have no desire to drink when I'm on this, and if I drink too much beforehand the booze wears off during the peak, which doesn't feel good; in fact this drug makes me feel that booze fucks my brain up, which it probably does. On the other hand this drug on its own feels like nothing but goodness.

I actually think there's quite a lot of similarity between this and mushroom trip, although it's been a long time since my last mushroom trip.


I just want to add something about this thing you said:

btw i'm experienced with drugs so i do like to take my doses on the high side

There is a world of experience to be explored in the space between low and high doses, of whatever drug. When you increase dosage of a drug which has multiple effects, some effects grow faster than others and can overwhelm them. If you consistently dose at the high end, I guarantee that you are missing stuff that goes on at the lower end. You're also spending more than you need to. Don't feel you have to go mental all the time!
 
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OK good, just checking!

I'm feeling benevolent now so here are some dosing details from my notebook.

My preferred dosing routine (I'm doing it as I type :) )is to put between 25mg and 50mg under my tongue and leave it till my mouth fills with methoxetmine/saliva solution then swish it about and gargle it for a minute before swallowing it. Seems to hit harder and faster than sniffing. I find sniffing this is a bit of a waste of the chemical. I wouldn't cap it either, why waste precious lovely drugs in the stomach. You want this in your bloodstream not your toilet. If you insist on capping then you probably need to up the dose but why bother?

Main effects last 3-6+ hours depending on the dose - by this I mean on 50mg there's no way I could sleep till after the sixth hour. I've always fallen asleep while residual effects were present, so I can't say when it's completely over. Antidepressant effects last for several days!

Effects at the lower end include humour, euphoria, stimulation, empathy and loss of motor control. As you increase dosage these all increase but the psychedelic side grows too and brings with it the potential for luxurious CEVs and even mild OEVs.

I haven't gone above 50mg yet, I am trying to conserve my supplies! For a first time, even if you think you are hard, I would keep below 40mg.

I find it to be incompatible with large amounts of alcohol. Only mushies and this make me feel like that. Using methoxetamine has made me cut down my drinking significantly. I have no desire to drink when I'm on this, and if I drink too much beforehand the booze wears off during the peak, which doesn't feel good; in fact this drug makes me feel that booze fucks my brain up, which it probably does. On the other hand this drug on its own feels like nothing but goodness.

I actually think there's quite a lot of similarity between this and mushroom trip, although it's been a long time since my last mushroom trip.


I just want to add something about this thing you said:



There is a world of experience to be explored in the space between low and high doses, of whatever drug. When you increase dosage of a drug which has multiple effects, some effects grow faster than others and can overwhelm them. If you consistently dose at the high end, I guarantee that you are missing stuff that goes on at the lower end. You're also spending more than you need to. Don't feel you have to go mental all the time!


thanks very much for the really helpfull reply mate didn't expect so much detail! ok so what i might do then is the under the tongue method you mentioned starting off on 40 mgs then maybe a small 15mg redose about 4 or 5 hours in but i dunno if i'll definately do that yet depends really.

personaly i don't mind dabbing drugs but some of my mates hate it cuz of the awful taste so how bad tasting is this stuff say compared to AMT? cuz that stuff taste proper rank :p

also if i was to go the capping method would it really be that much of a waste like you say? i would put 50mg in the cap would i still have a good buzz going this way?i defo not going the snorting route anyway but will more than likely go the under the tongue method as i want the best out of this chemical its just all depends on what way my mates decide they want it ya know.

keep us updated on your trip if you can! =D
 
thanks very much for the really helpfull reply mate didn't expect so much detail!

That's OK, I am a bit evangelical about it as I like it so much!

ok so what i might do then is the under the tongue method you mentioned starting off on 40 mgs then maybe a small 15mg redose about 4 or 5 hours in but i dunno if i'll definately do that yet depends really.

I said start off under 40! If I remember right my first dose was 15-20mg and you can feel it at that level, I thought it was Christmas and I loved everyone. I still do.

personaly i don't mind dabbing drugs but some of my mates hate it cuz of the awful taste so how bad tasting is this stuff say compared to AMT? cuz that stuff taste proper rank :p

It tastes fine, it's a little chemically but certainly not disgusting. There's no aftertaste. I am aware I have to be careful here, some people can't handle the taste of MDMA but I like it ;) If the taste of MDMA is comparable to a strong blue cheese then this tastes like Dairy Lea. It has no significant smell that I have noticed. Certainly nothing like AMT.

also if i was to go the capping method would it really be that much of a waste like you say? i would put 50mg in the cap would i still have a good buzz going this way?i defo not going the snorting route anyway but will more than likely go the under the tongue method as i want the best out of this chemical its just all depends on what way my mates decide they want it ya know.

I have never capped it so I can't say but generally absorption of drugs through the digestive tract is slower and less efficient. This is a valuable chemical which could deliver a lifetime of love so I would recommend treating it a bit like saffron or gold, i.e. make a little go a long way. So plugging or sub-lingual is in my view the way forward.

keep us updated on your trip if you can! =D

I only did 25mg tonight as I fucked up various preparations and do want to get some sleep... but it's great!

This is a very complex drug and although I've been experimenting almost every weekend for the last two months I feel I've just scratched the surface. Not just in terms of dose but also the network of parameters which feed into the experience. Set and setting. This is a dissociative, a stimulant, an opiate, an empathogen, a lovely cockle-warmer sitting round the fire side, a true psychedelic, capable of a bewildering array of effects. It's almost like a Swiss army knife of a drug.

My experience with dissociatives is a few bumps of Ketamine, a fuck-load of nitrous and this current chemical under discussion. I don't feel qualified to compare this to Ketamine or similar drugs, maybe they're all like this? If so why has it taken me so long to find them? I love it so much!

As you can see I'm peaking as I write this <3:D

It's life enhancing!
 
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LSDMDMA&9012771 said:
how is this stuff compared with k?

Jeez… I can't even describe the K experience, let alone compare it to a chemical that is both simultaneously very different and very similar! :p
 
I hear over at drug-forum an admin was calling this chemical a scam and banning people from talking about it?

It should return this week according to the main sellers!
 
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^ Alfa is an idiot, no discussion. But please, refrain from posting about availability and possible sellers, that has no place on BL.
 
would i still have a good buzz going this way?

I just noticed this in your post. The word buzz has certain connotations and I wouldn't describe Methoxetamine as a buzz drug. That makes it sound like a plain or perhaps euphoric stimulant. It's not that. It's not mephedrone, it's not speed, it's not cocaine, or anything else I would describe as giving me a buzz. It's not primarily a stimulant, the stimulant effect is probably not due to direct action on the central nervous system, rather it's more likely due to the brain responding to neural pathways being activated which are not normally, although I know next to nothing about this scientific stuff, it's just how it feels to me in comparison to other things I've taken. Perhaps it would be better to call this effect excitement rather than stimulation...

Maybe you use the word buzz differently though.
 
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