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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine(2-(3-methoxyphenyl)-2-(ethylamino)cyclohexanone) Thread

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On Saturday night I had 35mg MXE (is this what we're calling it now?) sub-lingually, poured under my tongue and held there for as long as I could before swallowing. There seems to be a big vein right there on the underside of my tongue with an "Insert MXE here ==>" label.

A small dose yet the effects were profound. An hour to peak, which was briefly like mushroom confusion, just much less visual. For about three minutes I was unable to use my computer properly, I had a racing heart and I caught myself saying "fuck fuck fuck...". Felt a bit like adrenaline but no anxiety or fear, just frantic blissful incapacitation. If it had lasted longer than it did I suppose it might have become uncomfortable but surely manageable by getting away from the computer and lying down.

This was followed by an overwhelming feeling of connection to people and a desire to communicate with them. I've dosed three times and each time I get this. This drug fills me with a platonic love, or brings it to the fore. I suppose this is similar to other's mention of the experience being Biblical.

Because of the urge to communicate I end up doing so, and I'm probably missing other effects because I'm pre-occupied with trying to operate a phone/email while incapacitated. Next time I'm going to try to chill out and pay more attention to what's going on.

The experience leaves me feeling like it's Christmas, full of good cheer and content!

Since my first dose 10 days ago I have dramatically cut down my alcohol intake, which was previously half a bottle to a bottle of wine every night. I've been out a couple of times with people to the pub since that first dose but on my own I have no desire to drink. I tried to drink wine last night but struggled to finish one glass.

I feel cold when I take this! Anyone else get that? Not terribly uncomfortable but enough to make me put a jumper on...

I love this stuff. It deserves respectful investigation as it's clearly powerful but I can find no actual negatives so far.
 
Damn sure MXE is sophisticated, it showed me the greatness of opera! =D I Recommend "Mozart : Famous Opera Arias" (2005) for high dose experiments. 8o


I never understood it before. But it's fucking brilliant stuff.



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Knockando: Nice to see such good effects on your life. And yes, i also feel cold on it. I feared vasoconstriction in a weak moment of paranoia. :)
 
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Yes, it's pretty good, the effect on my drinking is interesting as when I first obtained this my intention was to find something I could use to replace alcohol now and again, something I could take in low doses to get a bit fucked up on a Friday night while giving my liver a rest. But it's gone far beyond that.

This may be the experience amplifying my intention rather than a direct chemical effect, either way it's a great thing.
 
This is sounding like a more and more psychologically healthy drug with each post -- very cool. Dissociatives are definitely unrepresented in the history of human consciousness and intellectual endeavor, so every every new compound that is relatively safe and has novel and prolific effects on perception holds the potential to make great strides towards expanding the total scope of sentient experience and self knowledge.

Is there a consensus yet on sublingual being more potent than insufflation, or is that claim still supported by just a few sporadic anecdotal reports?
 
I listened to beethoven's 4th on it and got the same effect, I felt like I understood what he was doing and I hate to say it (because it's probably bollocks), but the whole thing sounded simple to me, as in, not complicated and easy to follow... and my friend said he went to sleep one night with opera playing in his head so this effect seems pretty real to me...what an odd effect... we're both musicians but even then....

Another thing that I've noticed is that I've been smoking less weed, like far less, and I've just noticed that I've been willing myself to smoke rather than smoke willing me to smoke.
 
dissociatives are such beautiful and seductive compounds (for better or for worse). I'd love to try this gem. I want to experience it's combo of nmda antagonism and mu-agonism that just sounds sooo tasty.
 
jeez guys, this color thing is still going on... everything looks amazing, colors are popping like crazy, everything is detailed and vivid... not in a crazy way, I'm fully functional, but I absolutely love it as it's one of my favorite drug effects, but I'm just amazed that it's been going on now since Saturday... plus you've got to understand this isn't mushroom or lsd color enhancement that I get in a sporadic way, it's permanent, happening to everything, not just some things, the right colors in the right place... I genuinely feel I may have altered my brain chemistry somehow, and I haven't had even a hint of depression which is odd for me in such a long time.... I kinda hope this doesn't go away, but also a little concerned that you can incur long lasting changes to the brain, but hey maybe it's all positive, maybe this is that one drug that doesn't fuck you up eventually. I'm somewhat expecting everything to go black and white next week tho :)
 
alright I'm getting carried away with reports now, but another thing that I just remembered... my friend who I told you about, the one that started jumping around dancing/doing tai chi.... I didn't mention that I was actually straight/sober during the whole experience, I was observing him in real time, because I wanted to keep an eye on him/it... since that experience he has told the story to myself and other friends of ours, and every time he tells us about it he describes the whole trip as if it was going at a much slower pace, he describes the events in the wrong time frame, as if it was laid back when in actuality the whole thing was happening extremely fast and he was frantic... he said he felt like 12 hrs had gone by when it was only 2hrs... perhaps one of the effects of MXE is a speeding up of brain processing via time dilation, you think more in less time, like some people experience when something dangerous is about to happen to them, they get the impression of time slowing down, finding themselves able to react quicker... just throwing out some nonsense ideas...

Edit: we also measured our heart rates during the experience, mine was avg 78, his was around 145...
 
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Cloudy said:
How does Methoxetamine combine with weed? Can't beat dissociatives and weed.
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Weed tasted funny, I vaporize but I didn't find it particularly enjoyable, which is odd..... but then again, we've had mixed views on this because although it tastes bad, it seems to add to the effects in a kinda somewhat positive way... to be honest, I'm kinda an all day every vaper, so I haven't had a chance to try it off weed.
 
I'm a musician too. :)

What i like with classical music is that there's no beat disturbing. The notes can do their magic and create the the picture of running up and down. I can't see music with beats in the same way. And it sounds simple and just the way it's supposed to be, understand you completely there.. And it was probably fairly simple to compose for beethoven and the other musical geniouses. Now i've enjoyed classical music now and then for years, but never whilst tripping and have been allergic to opera. But on MXE i could see the beauty of how they express themself, their full control of their vocal chords... wow. And the vibrato, the frigging VIBRATO. So perfect in that state.. Wobbly, wobbly.
Oh well, getting seriously off topic here. Keep posting. ;)


lbeing789 said:
I listened to beethoven's 4th on it and got the same effect, I felt like I understood what he was doing and I hate to say it (because it's probably bollocks), but the whole thing sounded simple to me, as in, not complicated and easy to follow... and my friend said he went to sleep one night with opera playing in his head so this effect seems pretty real to me...what an odd effect... we're both musicians but even then....

Another thing that I've noticed is that I've been smoking less weed, like far less, and I've just noticed that I've been willing myself to smoke rather than smoke willing me to smoke.
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psood0nym said:
Thanks for the breakdown. I can't get methoxetamine where I am yet but I'm curious about your experineces with ketamine. Do you get these kinds of effects from ketamine by itself, how about DXM? I ask because I've never been able to get "holing" effects from ketamine alone, but occasionally get hynogogic-like visions from DXM.
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I have never taken Ketamine or DXM, hence the Disociative? heading.
I don't know if these are true dissociative effects as the reports I have read on ketamine seem to involve an OOB or ego loss type experience.
In this stage as I said I feel very much in control and can open my eyes and feel almost normal and getting up and walking around is not a problem if need be.
 
lbeing789 said:
The whole time whilst on it I spent thiking about the MXE experience and how it relates to the DMT experience, they're so different, but I wanted to come up with a theory that would explain the two experiences..
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I too have seen the similarities to the dmt experience. For me it reminds me of the feelings I get when coming back from a breakthrough rather then the breakthrough itself, which for me is so alien and out there I find it impossible to relate it back to real life in any meaningful way.
MXE has the emotional element which I think could synergise with the breakthrough on DMT in a special way but it is not something I feel the need to try any time soon. In fact I have only used DMT once since I have started my research with mxe, i have lost interest in taking alot of other drugs and alcohol too as somebody else has mentioned.

I have a suspicion that the correct dose of mxe could make any added dmt superfluous anyway, as I have said before I still feel i am only scratching the surface at these doses.
 
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also MrTiHKAL I was thinking more about your breakdown and it occurred to me that another way to look at it is that it's almost as if your whole mind is supercharged...that every aspect of your cerebral consciousness is heightened, some psychs feel like they scramble it up, this one feels like it overdrives it...

should point out again, definitely increasing headaches if used too much, glad to have found that a break + vallys really helped with this.
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lbeing789 said:
one more thing... another thing that keeps on popping to mind is how it reminds me of how my perception was when I was younger, I've always commented to people how the world seems "darker" as you get older, meaning everything loses it lustre, but at this moment my mind feels like a young man, it's funny how often "change the world" comes up because that thought has occurred repeatedly to me and my friends, it's the kind of naive optimism you get as a teenager... hope it's not too delusional haha :)
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Yes it really takes me back to when i was young and first started taking LSD in that respect. The childlike wonder at the world and your surroundings and the optimism unspoiled by the harsh realities of growing up.
It's like a total cynicism blocker.

As to whether these realistions can be translated to real changes in your life, I suspect it is like any other endeavor in self improvement in that you really have to want to change, to get the most benefit.
I have noticed that I have had improved self confidence lately and conversations with random people that I would sometimes struggle with have become much easier and seem to flow without as much awkwardness.

Changing the world? Well I haven't started the revoloution yet but I have had some great ideas on where to start. ;)
 
psood0nym said:
This is sounding like a more and more psychologically healthy drug with each post -- very cool. Dissociatives are definitely unrepresented in the history of human consciousness and intellectual endeavor, so every every new compound that is relatively safe and has novel and prolific effects on perception holds the potential to make great strides towards expanding the total scope of sentient experience and self knowledge.

Is there a consensus yet on sublingual being more potent than insufflation, or is that claim still supported by just a few sporadic anecdotal reports?
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We don't really know how healthy this drug is psychologically or otherwise yet.
Yes it definately feels benign and sublime and we are not hearing of any nasty side effects, other than headaches on the comedown. which I have never experienced, maybe due to keeping my useage down to once a week. This doesn't mean there will be no problems that surface in the long term.

One side effect I have been meaning to mention is that i seem to produce alot of saliva during the trip. Not so much that it becomes a problem but it's just something that I haven't seen mentioned here.

I have tried sub lingual at 30 mg and didn't see any advantage to the same dose when insufflated.
 
I hope you know what you're doing Solipsis because the only vendor confirmed to be selling this is sold out until November.
 
Hmm anyone other experiencing tinnitus while on this? It seems to be such case also with DXM, ketamine, ether and with all the other dissociatives. I wonder why. I usually listen music but this got me to learn how to do it. IME its great for learning how things work. Gets your attention to think how and why.

I've learned a lot about social interaction and made me realize what love, respect and caring is in plain. Some religious text make lots of sense now. Like what sharing means and what golden rule is about. It's not about giving things but giving yourself if you know what I mean. Also when you give its not about that he owe you now, but you get with giving, like more you give more you get.


Very interesting substance.
 
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