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☛ Official ☚ The Big & Dandy Mescaline Extraction thread

3rd pull

I just finished my second pull with one more to go. I started with 3 feet of what seemed like semi rotten mash, but the color so far has been almost black which i gather is good. I have almost 6 pints of blackish iso 99% in a mason jar with probably another 2 to go. It's likely this last one will not yeild much goods so really i could start evaporation at any time. im thinking I'll either need to get another pyrex dish given the 8 pints of iso I have to evaporate or do it in two segments. I have a fan and a space heater in my room. so im thinking keep the pyrex close to the heater and run a fan on the dish pointed at the window. that's the plan. It is disconcerting (jam) that your batch was unsuccessful. I hope mine works out better. I'll be dropping soon enough, i'll let you know how it goes.
 
Mescaline Xtraction San Pedro... No Lemon Juice available

lol this is funny but i dont have any lemon juice could i use pickle juice or something instead to make the water acidic? does it need to acidified at all?

Im gonna cut it up good, simmer with water, strain, repeat 2 times.
 
any citrus juice will do, just add slightly more if its less acidic than lemon juice. Vinegar has a ph just a little higher than lemon juice, so again, slightly more to compensate and you should be fine. Not sure how dilute the vinegar in pickle juice is, but this will probably make the cactus concoction even more gross than it tastes to begin with, be forewarned...
 
I have experimented with this a lot. I am a member of the Native American Church which has a legal right to use San Pedro in California.

I have never found the lime juice to increase the effectiveness much and when you boil the citris it makes the mixture taste like shit. Ive experimented with this a lot. You dont need vitamin C or lime juice to activate the mescaline. My advice would be to skip it entirely. Maybe drink some grapefruit or pomegranate juice before you drink the sludge but dont boil any juice with the cactus. Pomegranate juice is about 11x more potent than grapefruit as a potentiator.

The real trick to making a perfect extract of cactus is to freeze the cactus first to break the cell wall.....the other way of breaking the cell wall is drying, but this causes it cactus to lose potency even if it helps you release it...freezing releases it without degrading any of the chemicals you want. So you freeze the cactus....some people freeze it in a pot and thaw it and freeze it again just to be sure. This breaks the cell wall. Let it thaw out. Put it in the blender (This is assuming you cut out all the stems before freezing). You dont need to peel the skin off if you use this method. Blending it exposes enough of the green stuff that it becomes a non issue, and its way easier that way anyway. After you blend it add some purified water. Cook it at a LIGHT heat until it baubles lightly and steam to reduce liquid, but do not boil. This is important. You save this first batch from a light heat extract and filter out the solid sludge from the liquid. Save liquid and then add more liquid to the sludge and this time do a HIGH heat extract. Boil the shit out of it. Repeat once or twice more or at high heat or until there is no more dark green left. Combine all the high heat liquids and steam off to reduce volume. Combine with low heat extract and gently steam off liquid at low heat without boiling. You can skip the reducing phase if you dont mind volume. Just dont accidently boil the low heat extract.

You now have a dose of medicine that is actually going to work. It can be every bit as strong as an acid trip or real peyote. Tastes nasty.

Ive made cactus tea maybe 100 times and this method in my experience is by far superior to any other method I have seen elsewhere on the net....using lime juice just made it taste like shit and didnt make it any stronger.


I believe there are some chemicals in there that are heat sensiive other than just mescaline that are psychoactive that get destroyed at high heat....I have no idea what those chemicals might be but making the low heat extract first and combining it with the high heat extract gives it a unique quality that you dont get from the high heat extract alone, and it also ends up tasting *comparably* better. Freezing and thawing gives you a potency that you will not get from drying or cooking it fresh.


Im a noob when it comes to opiates (Which I am using for pain), but you can trust my advice when it comes to cactus.



PH might be important if you are extracting mescaline to put in a pill, but it is not essential for making a brew to sip on.
 
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I should invent a name for this method. Its worthy of being codified.

If anyone tries it, tell me how it works via pm.
 
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=445475

Hey everyone, thanks for all the great info in this thread. I have a question about the D-Limonene tek.

I'm sure it isn't an issue, but I was wonder how concerned I should be, if at all, with the small amount of limonene that is on top of the final vinegar product. Also, I'm assuming that because of this I should not use an oven at 155F to increase evaporation, so what kind of time frame am I looking at for the vinegar do evaporate? What about heating and oven to 150, turning it off, and then putting the dish in the oven? Good idea or no?


Thanks in advance! <3
 
Sentience said:
I should invent a name for this method. Its worthy of being codified.

If anyone tries it, tell me how it works via pm.
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I looked into a bunch of recipes before trying mescaline the first time. I've done basically the same thing you described, and it definitely does work.
 
LOL thanx for the advice too bad i didnt read it till i already started cooking. its cool though cus i did every thing pretty much good. i just wish i had cut up the san pedro into itty-bitty pieces instead of the spears.

So I froze the cactus and then unthawed it, bought some POMEGRANITE-GRAPEFRUIT juice (lol Sentience) and concentrated lemon and lime juice. i tried cutting out the bigger spines but realized boiling like that wouldnt matter. since i had frozen and thawed the cactus it became rather mushy and i couldnt cut and skin it the normal way. i decided to leave the skin on since it was connecting too much to the darkgreen flesh. i just split it down the grooves all the way and made lil' spears.

like i said i wish i had chopped it up more thoroughly. the original cactus was less than 16 inches long, me and my buddy a week ago had taken 6 inches from the middle and had eaten that straight leaving a top 5-inch and a bottom 5-inch which have been sitting around for a week, frozen for a couple days, in the fridge, frozen, then thawed today. the top was easy to disect but the bottom was a biatch as the core and bottom of it were pretty much w00den.

anyways, then i put the cactus in the pot, went and read this thread and some other threads, came back but in 2 parts water barely covering the cactus, 2/3 parts lemon juice 1/3 parts lime juice for 2 parts water 1 part citrus. i read Sentiences post and thats pretty much what i followed from then on... the first boil was light and was separated. the next two boils were quite a bit heavier, i combined the latter two and heavily evaporated them about half way, then put the 1st boil on and took the heavy boils off and lightlly evaporated the 1st boil most of the way, then i finally combined all of them and evaporated lightly till i was left with about 1 cup of liquid out of about 10 cups of liquid.

oh and i strained through a cheese cloth when seperating the liquid from the plant matter. it tastes maybe a little TOO acidic, maybe i shouldnt of used so much citrus. the resulting liquid in brown (slowly turned brown from green as the boiling process continued), thick, and sticky.

seriously though, thanx for the great post Sentience
and everyone else....

wooh and to top it all off in order to celebrate i decided to snort two Klonopin and break out the Humboldt Kush!! yomp now im high... onlyy one question-- how long can i wait till i drink this stuff? does it start degrading in 24 hours? should i freeze it? and should i split it with someone else or is 10 inches too little to get high for two people?

oh and do you guys know when the next rainbow gathering in California is??

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Why dont you try just a little bit of it and tell us what you think?

If you freeze it then it should stay good for a while. How long, I dont know
 
The vinegar without aid of heat can take a pretty long time to evap. I use a hotplate to speed it up. I dont see what differnece it would make to have a small layer of limeone on top and how it would effect being in the oven. You should just seperate the layers so there wont be any limeone to worry about.
 
Is there anyone who has tried approximately the same amounts of cactus from the same batch only with different exctraction methods? If so, can you tell me how much the dose/level of intensity compares say from, 50 grams worth of pedro tea, vs an extract made from 50 grams of material.
 
If you are trying to put it in a pill, go ahead and use these complicated extraction methods....however, there are many other drugs in the cactus and some chemicals which are either pro-drugs or potentiators. Mescaline easily extracts in just water, but if you use one of these really technical procedures you might not be getting all of the other chemicals that are actually very nice but little focused on. My experience using my method (The Sentient Djinns San Pedro urban Shamans brew) in my experience using only 1 foot of quality Pachanoi per person was stronger than a hit of acid and was comparable to eating real peyote.

The down side is that you cant just put it in your pocket or market it....its purely for my legal religious ceremonial mind exploring. However, if this is just a personal adventure with your friends and you dont mind the prep work and nasty taste, I strongly suggest this method over other boiling methods.


There is something to be said for the convenience of something that can be put in a pill though.
 
I believe when you extract from cactus you get more then just mescaline. Some of the other alkaloids are extracted as well so you are not experiencing pure mescaline. And yes, taking it as a pill is much more convenient.

Though im sure there are some great things to tripping on actual cactus. Growing, preparing your own brew, etc will all have an effect on your trip. Which im sure alot of people enjoy and it makes them have a better trip.

For me though, id rather take a capsule. Even with ayahuasca id rather take extracted DMT and a pharmaceutical MAOi then make my own brew.
 
^I personally hate the ISO tek, the nausea outdid any amount of tea I've ever used, but some people love it.


How much did you use, Help?

Somebody hooked it up with an extract made from 50g's. I plan on loveflipping at a festival, and I just don't wanna over do it. I think it would be impossible to overdo it with 50g's, even if it is a purified extract(i'm well versed with 1.5+foot pedro tea-doses, and have done E twice), but I'd rather be cautious.
 
If I were to die and be given a new angelic body that could fly, I would want the feeling of mescaline to be my normal baseline mood at all times. It would be part of my spirit and everyone around me would feel just a little trippier around me.
 
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I took around 1000 mgs after a few month break from pyshs. It is definately one of my top ranked experiences. Oh and you definately could end up with a pretty good dose if the material is good.
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you took a gram of mescaline extract?

Was it weak or do you have some sort of tolerance?

i found 350mg to be a bit underwhelming but i think 500-700 would be just perfect.

I guess a gram would be pretty intense, i just never heard of people taking such doses and always considered it may be dangerous at that level.
 
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