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The Big & Dandy MDAI Thread

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Also, has anyone tried combining this with o-desmethyltramadol? I find M1 to be pretty stimulating due to its NRI ability, and think this might synergize nicely with the MDAI to give that energy to it. Should be non-neurotoxic, and might even add some of that missing NE component that MDMA has. Or maybe MDAI + DRI + NRI? I know polydrug use with unknown compounds is a bad idea, but it seems like that might be the closest non-neurotoxic substitute. Any willing guinea pigs?
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I would look to MBDB for what the subjective experience of dual 5ht and NE release might look like. Per current knowledge of SAR and neurology, it should be non-neurotoxic, although IIRC, MBDB was found to exert minor neurotoxicity (which is pretty surprising, given other agents with the 3,4-methylene-dioxy substitution that were found to be non-neurotoxic).

I would not add both a DRI and NRI (or both a DA and NE releaser), as most DRIs and DA releasers that function as recreational stimulants also affect NE to a high degree.
 
Sturnam said:
Does anyone have any sexual experiences with a partner while on MDAI alone? I found that when I did MDAI I was very aroused, but the sedating part makes me wonder if company might be slightly annoying.
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I tried only once, so I have no idea if my experience is worth sharing, but sex was absolutely great while on MDAI. My husband reported the same, so I guess it's not just my impression ;). But if someone thinks he/she'll have some advanced gymnastics practice in bed, I would think it would not be the case. The calm pleasure of being with someone you share some feelings with combined with a great pleasure of the gentle touch is what was great.

Company.. I felt a very light sedation, maybe because I am normally very sensitive and took only 80mgs, but company was enjoyable. BUT I must say I feel the strength of this substance is more into being with people you enjoy to be with normally, some nice music, share a glass of orange juice (;)) and talk, talk, caress.
 
Has anyone tried any of the other research (S)SRA's, namely the 2-amino-tetralin compounds 6-CAT and MDAT?
 
Anyone know how long it takes to recover from this garbage?
I have been an emotional wreck for 4 days now. Still get light brain zaps from moving my eyes.
I feel so out of place like I don't even recognise my own home. It's like in some depressed alternate reality world. terrible crashin/recovery.
 
cuberun said:
Anyone know how long it takes to recover from this garbage?
I have been an emotional wreck for 4 days now. Still get light brain zaps from moving my eyes.
I feel so out of place like I don't even recognise my own home. It's like in some depressed alternate reality world. terrible crashin/recovery.
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How much did you take? And was it repeated over several days?

I had high hopes for this substance. Now Im more reluctant to try it :\
 
Sounds to me like cuberun binged on it like I did.

I found the "brain zaps" go away by the end of the day 4, and from then on the emotions quickly go back to normal over the next couple of days.
 
Used about 700 mg over two days with sleep/food etc inbetween (flushed 300mg or so). Don't know why I used the second day as the first one was super underwhelming and annoying. I had no aphrodisiac effects. No nothing other than a really irritating sedation. Second day I didn't even feel anything.
Only time I've ever had brain zaps was withdrawaling from using tramadol for 3 weeks. Never got it from MDMA/bk-MDMA/mephedrone or any standard stims etc.
I have them still now. so fkn depressed i Wish I could just undo it and flush all that shit, clearly not for me. HOrrible, randomly crying if I even think about anything related to my life.
 
Well okay, that was to be expected. I could rant about dosages, binges and RC's, but nothings gonna come out of that anyway :)

Maybe Ill give it a go sometime next year.
 
Sturnam said:
Does anyone have any sexual experiences with a partner while on MDAI alone?
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Yes, that's why I emphasize its aphrodesiac properties. It makes sex that much better, whether the partner is sober or not.
 
Iodjini_dk said:
Well okay, that was to be expected. I could rant about dosages, binges and RC's, but nothings gonna come out of that anyway :)

Maybe Ill give it a go sometime next year.
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here i'll do it for ya

jesus 700mg in two days? thats just stupid and irresponsible
 
i wonder if any other selegiline users note effects at very low doses ie less than 10mg. i keep visualizing MDAI as a breeze shaking a few grapes (vesicles) from the vine (pre-synaptic cleft) - just one or two grapes, and taking a full dose is like harvesting the grapes to make wine which leaves the vine bare - and to take the analogy further is poisonous and bad for your brain/liver (assuming this is white wine without significant antioxidant effect) but a few fresh grapes are harmless and good!

makes sense
 
hamhurricane said:
i wonder if any other selegiline users note effects at very low doses ie less than 10mg. i keep visualizing MDAI as a breeze shaking a few grapes (vesicles) from the vine (pre-synaptic cleft) - just one or two grapes, and taking a full dose is like harvesting the grapes to make wine which leaves the vine bare - and to take the analogy further is poisonous and bad for your brain/liver (assuming this is white wine without significant antioxidant effect) but a few fresh grapes are harmless and good!

makes sense
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hurricane ham, have you laid off this stuff and if not have you tried it with a DARI again in low dose?
 
Binging?
I had about 8 hours in total of boring sedation. I'm not sure how that qualifies as a binge.

For me this is a shit substance standalone. No aphrodisiac effects, just orgasm inhibition.

Exactly what lecture were you going to give me on dosages when you have never even used MDAI?:)

I have taken twice the amount of molly and bk-mdma in sessions before with no brain zaps and quick recovery. I haven't taken any substances (not even nicotine or caffeine) for 2+ months prior.

I'm just saying, don't get too excite over this compound on its own.. I was into the non neurotoxic thing though so I'm not interested in mixing it
Perhaps it will be great for you, go for it.

Prea said:
here i'll do it for ya

jesus 700mg in two days? thats just stupid and irresponsible
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had I added a dopamine agent then perhaps, but I didn't really feel any ill effects after the total of 400 on the first day. and I did smallish test dosages week beforehand.

your insult is juvenile and uncalled for.

- Spaazkaz sorry I can not reply to pms hehe. I feel better now anyhow.. still mild brain zaps
 
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sorry far be it for me to lecture anyone on consumption and mixing given my experiments with this lovely chemical and mephedrone. Both My friends and I concur that the dosages we have set out in earlier posts are the maximum necessary to achieve desired effects. Given that this is a new chem it would pay to be careful. To be honest I asked some of my friends if any of them would be game enough to chop down 700 mg in two days and no was the answer.

Imagine eating 700mg of MDMA - I think the damage would be pretty bad

I treat this chem exactly the same way , its not candy to binge on its a treat to have a little of and savour.

if you did check with smaller dosaged wouldnt you have questioned why you are not getting effects and others are at lower dosages? maybe some Seritonin depletion or even some sort of tolerance to Serotonin releasers.

On its own its great around some wines, at a reggae festival or maybe even a relaxing trance event its a great social tonic. In our opinions it needs a Dopamine releaser of some sort for something that demands energy. But we all agree this chem is something special it may be talked up but if you go into it with no expectations you will gain everything ;)

an interesting side note my friend who has epilepsy reported that for a week after consuming mdai she had not epileptic attacks.
 
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cuberun said:
Binging?
I had about 8 hours in total of boring sedation. I'm not sure how that qualifies as a binge.

For me this is a shit substance standalone. No aphrodisiac effects, just orgasm inhibition.

Exactly what lecture were you going to give me on dosages when you have never even used MDAI?:)

I have taken twice the amount of molly and bk-mdma in sessions before with no brain zaps and quick recovery. I haven't taken any substances (not even nicotine or caffeine) for 2+ months prior.

I'm just saying, don't get too excite over this compound on its own.. I was into the non neurotoxic thing though so I'm not interested in mixing it
Perhaps it will be great for you, go for it.




had I added a dopamine agent then perhaps, but I didn't really feel any ill effects after the total of 400 on the first day. and I did smallish test dosages week beforehand.

your insult is juvenile and uncalled for.

- Spaazkaz sorry I can not reply to pms hehe. I feel better now anyhow.. still mild brain zaps
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Out of curiosity, do you take any medications daily that might have resulted in your poor experience?
 
Anyone who can give us any updates on the dark chocolate looking version of this ? :) has anyone tried / sampled
 
cuberun said:
Binging?
I had about 8 hours in total of boring sedation. I'm not sure how that qualifies as a binge.

For me this is a shit substance standalone. No aphrodisiac effects, just orgasm inhibition.

Exactly what lecture were you going to give me on dosages when you have never even used MDAI?:)

I have taken twice the amount of molly and bk-mdma in sessions before with no brain zaps and quick recovery. I haven't taken any substances (not even nicotine or caffeine) for 2+ months prior.

I'm just saying, don't get too excite over this compound on its own.. I was into the non neurotoxic thing though so I'm not interested in mixing it
Perhaps it will be great for you, go for it.



had I added a dopamine agent then perhaps, but I didn't really feel any ill effects after the total of 400 on the first day. and I did smallish test dosages week beforehand.

your insult is juvenile and uncalled for.

- Spaazkaz sorry I can not reply to pms hehe. I feel better now anyhow.. still mild brain zaps
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Taking large dosages of a completely novel compound and even repeating it over two days is pretty irresponsible IMO. One does not need to have tried MDAI to recognize this as a somewhat stupid and daring experiment. Some lab experiments with rats and cell cultures which show no signs of neurotoxicity isnt a green light to overuse this substance.

As for your experiment with 1400+ mg (??) MDMA in one session. Sounds like a rediculous dosage to me. Are you on SSRI medication? Otherwise that MDMA must not have been the purest :\
 
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