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Lysergamides The Big & Dandy LSZ Thread

I did 300ug of LSZ and for all intents and purposes found it to be indistinguishable from LSD. Granted I have not had a proper trip with LSD in a couple years, but if some one sold me that as LSD I do not think I could tell the difference.

I think that dose was perfect for me. Would probably recommend 150ug to green trippers, to be safe.

There was a group of four of us, and during the peak it started to get to the point where we were having trouble functioning and communicating in any kind of productive way. But just when you started to think: "Oh man, I think I took too much, this is getting hard to control," it started to subside in intensity after a peak of about 4 hours or so. There was a lot of spontaneous laughter, you know, when you burst out laughing just because some one else is laughing, to the point where your eyes are watering and your sides hurt from laughing so much. And still you keep laughing.

There was no abnormal body load like I have seen some people mention. No nausea. Just a general tenseness in the muscles. Much like I get with LSD.

I would say the timeline went something like this:

Dropped at 10:30pm. Tripped pretty hard from 11:30pm till 2:30am. The intensity started to ebb after 2:30am, but with a steady plateau till 5:00am. Was still pretty fucked at at 7:00am, but would not call it tripping per se. At around noon the next day almost all the visuals were gone and felt pretty much at baseline, but "tweaked"

Could not fall asleep until around 10pm the next day though.

BRILLIANT closed eye visuals :)

Really think most people would be hard to pressed to tell the difference between LSD and this in a blind test unless you were super familiar with both.
 
I'm not even going to write up a trip report. This stuff is basically LSD. The come-up took a LONG time (for me it was about 3.5-4 hours!), I had some nausea and weakness about 45 min after I put the tab in, lasting for maybe 2 hrs. But the effects are so LSD it's not even worth writing anything to try and differentiate it.
 
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LSZ is much better for me to be on in a public place. tripping at a bar, nightclub or a rave gets weird on LSD but its a little easier to handle on LSZ. its typically less of an introspective mind fuck and usually the visuals are a little lighter from my experience.
 
Did 300 mcg of LSZ recently. Very similar to LSD, almost indistinguishable, and maybe even more - to AL-LAD.
More side effects on come-up then both, though, something with ears and swallowing. Come-up took 1.5 hours, first effects after 40 mins.
300mcg was very light trip for me, but I have extremely low sensitivity to all psychs.
I think this is great substance, feelings of wonder, party, happiness, afterglow in next days.
But I think I like AL-LAD even more.
Get it while it is still legal in most places.
Also, orgasm on LSZ is something very wonderful. It's like colored shards of happiness everywhere, you just smile, and you are feeling great.
 
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Contained said:
Mixed one tab (150ug) of lsz with 60mg pure mdma (30mg up the nose, 30mg orally) and continuous little bumps of ketamine last night while in a cabin in the forest. I've never been so comfortable in my life. I kind of lost track of time so I don't know if I'll be able to write a legitimate trip report but I'll try.
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Two tabs (300ug) + 80mg 5-mapb was also wonderful for me.
 
In response to the question of the "lysergic feel", I found both 150mcg of Al LAD and LSZ to have very obvious lysergic similarities to LSD. By comparison, they do not feel like a phenethylamine or tryptamine. In fact, I would say that only Al LAD had noticeable differences at this dosage - similar feel, but clearly distinct, and it seems that the distinctions are a little different from person to person (The one time I tried it, I found it to be less kaleidoscopic and visual, but also to be kinda easy-going and pleasant, despite the sharper/shorter peak).
One night about a month ago, I tried 150mcg of LSZ and my fiancee (less inclined to try new things until I've tested the waters) ate 100mcg LSD, and we were pretty much in the exact same zone. If someone had told me I'd eaten 100mcg hit of LSD, I would have believed them, and I've eaten LSD hundreds of times. As someone else mentioned, the only benefit of LSZ over LSD is the legality, and perhaps the dosage regularity. Maybe they become more distinct at a higher dosage, but at the standard "one hit" level, 150 mcg LSZ and 100 mcg LSD were very very similar to me.
 
Tried an Lsz blotter this night before watching the wolf of wall street at the cinema. Very stimulating film.
 
This is all very interesting. I found an apparently extremely reliable site selling LSZ and AL-LAD but unfortunately, while prices are decent, they are in Euros, with the (again) dwindling Canadian dollar I'd get screwed buying some of these pre-laid blotter. And I still can get LSD sheets whenever I want for about the same prices, well whenever I want, it is easy as hell to get the same old print circulating in Canada since a decade+ (multiple logos of punk rock bands, cartoon characters, tim leary, sid vicious and other funny/weird drawings per blotter) that come in either red on white, blue on white and green on white 1/4 inch x 1/4 inch hits. They are very good when obtained at the "i only sell sheets buddy" level, but when some random punk / skater and now from the identity-less younger generation, they will be degraded by poor manipulation, storage etc.

I think this print is made in Quebec only but the actual LSD comes from BC. Which is why we are flooded by those hits during the winter, and when everyone feels like tripping (summer), it starts becoming extremely scarce. At least this same cycle happened from the early 2000's to around 2008 when I last did those hits.

Anyways...those LSD and AL-LAD providers could be original...I have never seen windowpane/geltab hits in my life and only saw orange Microdots in 1999 when the local market was flooded with orange dots with LSD and red Nexus (2c-B) pills. I only had 2c-b then cos I knew it didn't last long so I never had a microdot cos I was still pretty scared of drugs back then.

In retrospect I should have stayed. This one random hit I took that didn't have the so ever present design of blotter print sometimes in late 2002 (they were playing card symbols hits...quite the gamble indeed), was a DOB hit, was fun for maybe 5-6 hours, the remaing 20 to 22 hours were just anxiety and hell. I know they were DOB, because they certainly weren't DOM, and other DOx weren't sold online then still. But lots of reports on the internet from police seizures trying to cause hysteria (kinda warranted, as it was sold as "acid" but wasn't) were appearing in the media in those days reporting DOB blotters in Canada and Australia in particular. This DOB hit hurt me mentally for 3 years certainly, causing a lot of psychosomatic "pain" and now i'm just another guy on suboxone...with actual pain issues that are really undertreated by the crappy painkiller suboxone is. But this isn't the drug biography thread so I'll stop now. The etaqualone and valium are making me want to talk and talk and talk ;)
 
Ive gotten a good offer on 50hits of al-lad and or lsz.

Any reason why i should not take 25 of each?

Im putting them in the freezer for future research well packed except 5 of each that i will indulge in a few trials with friends.
 
I'm a bit aghast that LSz hasn't done better in relation to Al-Lad, to be honest. Maybe the market it just spoiled, with two legal lysergamides appearing in the same year.

My advice would be to go for it, but other people might suggest you got 80/20 Al-Lad/LSz. Some people just don't seem to like LSz...
 
Is all the LSZ coming out of the same distribution center/country? I have reason to believe the he isn't that synthed LSZ and AL-LAD resides in a particular country, and the chemist are one in the same.
 
That my friend, is a very long & unresolved discussion...

Some people believe there to be multiple labs in Europe alone supplying these drugs. Others that they're from China. I am one of those who believes both of these are being sourced from one, single lab. I suspect it would be in Europe because if the technology & know-how to produce this shit in quality & qauntity for sale existed in China, there'd be BUCKETS of the stuff going round... & that is certainly not the case...

... yet.
 
^ well lets just put it at that I have very close connections to the person distributing LSZ and they hinted at AL-LAD in the same breath.
 
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I suspect hints is all you'll get because this is a very hush hush business, this new lysergamide lark! Very secretive!
 
I only ask select questions. And am rewarded with information about the distribution.
The only thing stopping me from getting a sheet of LSZ is my respect for LSD.

It's besides the point.... I want some lysergamides in my collection now!
 
How is sex on LSZ? I'm not noticing much mention about it (nor with al-lad), so wondering if these new ergoloids (do we call them ergoloids?) are less sexy than LSD.
 
jason7 said:
Yes, I live in the Fascist country known as "Canada". I don't feel like ordering pills over the internet and there are no internet sources for it in Canada, smartass. You can't order stuff from the US without a lot of hassle with Customs so I won't even bother. Now either take the Kudzu challenge or zip it.
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Sorry but that's just bullshit. Back not so long ago I would even order RC's from the US. I even ordered a huge bottle of pure DXM and DPT right before 911, it took a long time to arrive due to the anthrax bullshit but it came in, unopened. You seem like you might just be a LEO trying to discourage lurkers if I push it a little.

Also all those complaints of tremors...lol. I had bad trips with LSD, and so did my friends, never did we have any tremors of any kind. This isn't amphetamine.

Seriously you can't just fuck around ordering something that might just be LSD to some retarded cops, and be scared of ordering some little bottle of a supplement. What if they open it ? They'll realize it's nothing. Canadian customs aren't trouble at all, the only problem is that they are slow, just like the postal service.
 
Si Ingwe said:
I suspect hints is all you'll get because this is a very hush hush business, this new lysergamide lark! Very secretive!
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wow! much veil! such mystery!

The same applies to LSD still since the Pickard (be thankful, he invented that LSZ skinner wasn't happy with), never much if any busts of large quantities of LSD since then. I remember one guy in my province got caught with beautiful artsy blotter in the quantity of 1000+ around 2004 but that was it. I don't follow the drug busts thread anymore, if it even exists still.
 
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