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Lysergamides The Big & Dandy LSZ Thread

I am agree! Doubt I'd go that high ever... oh I guess I dunno, maybe... I could do 2 a couple hours part though, I bet that'd fucking work! Lol

crazycatman said:
How long does tolerance from this last I had one 150ug blotter of LSZ of the 3rd of September and 3 AL-LAD blotters just an hour 10 min ago. Still feeling nothing really and usually AL-LAD gives me first alerts in 30 min or sooner and then rises quite fast.
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You're a pioneer on the tolerance road man, come back & tell us in a few hours, LSz tolerance may just delay onset, if you're lucky... But if you ask me, 10 days is ideal with these, complete reset! :)
 
Doesn't look like to be just a delay, 2h and still basically nothing. If the 10 day think is true the next time I can try is around 18th.
 
Folk with higher tolerance & those who dig bigger doses might have to wait even longer. But try 10 days & see how it goes. Make notes coz this information will be useful :)
 
But that's just it my last (and only) dose of lsz was just 1 150ug blotter (now wishing I hat eaten more if the tolerance lasts this long). Not a large dose or anything. And as for tolerances go, for other substances my tolerances always dropped in the normal few days to a week. Well, I'll give it some time and try again. Perhaps next try will consist of lsz instead of al-lad..
 
Si Ingwe said:
Doubt I'd go that high ever... oh I guess I dunno, maybe... I could do 2 a couple hours part though, I bet that'd fucking work!
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The 300µg dose was in no way too much to handle, it was possibly just a wee bit too much in terms of how 'magically' or 'good' it could've been. I think around ~250 - 275µg could have been sufficient. Too much rarely means more fun.

And i just don't know if 'work' is an adequate description of being that massively engaged in wallowing oneself in exuberant enjoyment and utter bliss - ...but well, regarding the sheer intensity of the experience, ahm yes, i think it really is!

Btw i kept the blotters in my mouth, for about ~25mins before swallowed 'em. I am 100% positive that i noticed the first changes within the first fifteen minutes. Mentioning this i should add that i had some MXE before dosing the LSZ, i'd say ~10mgs.

Thanks God i was cautious as i usually am and did not take the 450µg as planned after my friend meant 300 were rather disappointing :\8(

So yeah, overall it's crap material, forget about it and don't bother wasting your money on it... It's scam ;)
 
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THCified said:
Mentioning this i should add that i had some MXE before dosing the LSZ, i'd say ~10mgs.
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That may be what saved you from getting nausea and other unpleasant effects, the MXE. Once I took some PCP and then later I took some mushrooms and I didn't even get nauseous and it was a really enjoyable trip while normally shrooms make me feel like crap. MXE is related to PCP so maybe it did the same thing with the LSZ as PCP did with sbrooms for me.
 
This stuff makes me feel SO crappy. Buying 100 of this was not a great idea after all it seems, unless I can find an antidote for LSZ sickness.
 
jason7 said:
This stuff makes me feel SO crappy. Buying 100 of this was not a great idea after all it seems, unless I can find an antidote for LSZ sickness.
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Have you had ANY pleasant psychedelic experiences lately? You may just not react well to ANY psychedelics nowadays...IIRC you're middle aged correct?

either way I don't really understand why you keep taking al-lad and lsz, probably more often than anyone whos fully ENJOYED their time on it...I know I wouldnt have the will to completely ruin multiple days a month with unpleasant bodyload and subpar GOOD effexts.
 
I keep hoping I can find something that will cut the nausea so I keep taking the LSZ to find out. It's actually only the 3rd time now that I tried it. Ginger antinausea tablets did nothing to prevent the nausea, at least not at first. After I puked I felt better but I don't know if that was the ginger or just because the puking was over.

So this time I tried peppermint oil, 4-5 drops, hard to tell exactly how many drops came out, but at least 4. Didn't help, just made me have peppermint burps. Then I had to take 50 mg diphenhydramine. That actually seems to have helped a lot but still didn't totally get rid of the bad feeling. At least the drowsiness of it seems to have taken the edge off the LSZ agitation. So 4.5 hours after admin of one hit LSZ and 90 minutes after admin of diphenhydramine I'm not feeling too bad really.
 
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I always seem to have negative body effects including that tingly electric not good feeling, along with nausea and stomach cramps when I can't let go and accept the situation. When I'm on edge my body feels like shit. When I take deep breaths and tell myself all is well, this is where I need to be, or deal with whatever mental/emotional trouble I'm having, it goes away.

When these feelings arise, take a deep look into your mind and just feel. Don't think, just feel. A thought might just pop up into your head that next thing you know you realize is the reason your body is feeling this way. Then you can deal with it and move on.

If you're positive it isn't something you're deeply unhappy or upset with that you're covering, which is trying to come out, then I don't know what to say.
 
Nah, the nausea is a direct effect of the LSZ. It happens every time. This time the nausea ceased completely about 90 minutes after taking 50 mg diphenhydramine, but that was about 3 hrs into the trip which is usually when the nausea drops off anyway. Next time I'll take it right at the start and see if it prevents the nausea even beginning.

The LSZ effects are nice after the nausea phase though. No tremors, which is certainly good. AL-LAD made me feel like crap the whole 8 hrs, at least with two hits. With LSZ it looks like diphenhydramine is a necessary accompaniment. I got no bad effects from the diphenydramine, which I bought as a "sleeping aid" but which is also used for nausea in car sickness. Maybe LSZ hits the same part of the brain that causes motion sickness.
 
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if you get bad side effects from a psychedelic then dont take it. i always get incredible nausea from 2ci hence i no longer take it
 
Reading some reports it seems to me that,at the same dosage,this is slightly stronger than AL-LAD,can anyone who has tried both confirm ?
 
Hard to say really. I got a lot more visuals and general weirdness from 2 hits of AL-LAD than from two of LSZ, but I did upchuck my stomach contents about 90 minutes or so in so I may have lost some of the dose. I think they're about the same potency, or so close it's not significant.

pofacedhoe said:
if you get bad side effects from a psychedelic then dont take it. i always get incredible nausea from 2ci hence i no longer take it
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But they ALL give me nausea and I have to use one of them because otherwise life is too boring. I think LSZ may be amenable to treatment with diphenhydramine. LSZ seems to be much like Mescaline, making you feel sick for the first few hours and then you're fine after that.
 
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I just ordered 3 of the 150ug blotters (smallest increment I could order... kind of annoying, wish I could have gotten 4.) I plan on taking 2 to start based on reports from this thread. I'm a little peeved as I didn't read the AL-LAD thread before making the purchase, it sounds like AL-LAD is more visual and I do like that aspect of tripping... although if LSZ is more sonically-pleasing then I've made the correct choice.

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Extraordinary substance!
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Can you go into more detail about certain aspects of the trip? For instance, how were the visuals and music enhancement? I gather there was LSD-like euphoria from your description but I'm wondering about how this drug would be to hang out alone and jam out to some tunes.
 
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So it's been asked before but never answered, did anyone try lizzie with al yet. I only tried lsz at 150mg and experience was very un visual , high vascular load , neck etc but not so bad it spoilt the moment. Ended up cleaning most the house , felt somewhat mdma like.
 
phactor said:
Not sure if this has been posted yet

http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=2848

At our request, DDL tried a couple of techniques on the recent blotter we've gotten to try to use the field reagent tests with the blotter. The results were inconclusive and it's not obvious how well the reagent tests can work with either paper blotter or with doses probably under half a milligram.

GC/MS

http://www.ecstasydata.org/images/display/2000/2848_master_lsz_blotter_gcms1_big.jpg

No idea what this means
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2C-C-NBOMe also has a mass of 335. Does anyone have a reference spectra for both LSZ and 2C-C-NBOMe?
 
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