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The Big & Dandy Ketamine Thread (Third Injection)

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there is NO way I can obtain liquid Ketamine....*snip*

But my 'mate' (who i see rarely) injects ketamine powder IV method, isit safer to IV the powder than IM it?

I heard IV was alot stronger than IM?
 
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bighooter said:
there is NO way I can obtain liquid Ketamine....*snip*

But my 'mate' (who i see rarely) injects ketamine powder IV method, isit safer to IV the powder than IM it?

I heard IV was alot stronger than IM?
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Snort the powder, IV the liquid.
I have no idea how you could possibly IV a powder, considering it won't go through a syringe. If you managed it, you would probably die (or at least have an abscess/clot), as you aren't supposed to have that much particulate matter in your veins.
And IM'ing powder would hurt like a bitch. I mean like a BITCH. You can't stuff a solid into your muscles....


Also, no one on here is going to sell you drugs. That's clearly against the rules of this forum.
 
^ I presume he means adding water to ket powder/krystal to prep for injection not actually injecting powder - that would be quite a feat of engineering :D

IVing street ket is safer than IMing it. That's not to say that IVing it could really be described as truly safe but it is safer than IMing it. I IM ket krsytal of known purity but even though it's 100% pure ket it's not sterile so IMing it still carries the risks of infections, abcesses and so on. I would never IM powder ket though.

IV ket is a kompletely different experience to IM or intranasal ket - it's almost like a different drug. I find it's pretty stimulating IVed and it's much harder to hole - you either get seriously fucked up or knock yourself out really.
 
damn so im pretty much screwed, I only want to K hole I dont want to IV if it wont get me in a k hole.

so is definatly best to avoid IMing powder K (obviously mixed in water)

I just wish I could go into a k hole but since ive used it a few weekends in a row the psychedelic experience has gone and now I find snorting it just very stimulating with a bit of wonkiness.
 
Whether you feel the risk of IMing street ket is justified is really for you to decide, Hooter. As I said, I regularly IM krystal of known purity as do many others and I've never used a micron filter. Not saying it's a wise thing to do, but I do it often and am far from alone in that.

In the UK we just don't get vials cos we tend to get krystal direct from the labs before it's been made up into vials here. If you can get hold of krystal it should be 100% pure but powder is obviously far easier to kut and is not worth the risk, in my opinion. IVing ket is just a different experience that some enjoy and others don't. I like IM and IV for different reasons but holing via the IV method is fairly impractical, I'd say.
 
no I do get Kristal, but then I cook it up myself into a powder.

I usually get the Kristal that looks like sugar could the kristal ever be cut though?

When I get it, its all kristal btw no powder what so ever.
 
bighooter said:
damn so im pretty much screwed, I only want to K hole I dont want to IV if it wont get me in a k hole.

so is definatly best to avoid IMing powder K (obviously mixed in water)
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You can k-hole with an IV dose, its just harder to do so and guaging a dose is hard. But it is possible.
IMing is more effective at producing a k-hole and it lasts longer and just feels like a more fullfilling experience.

It is best to avoid injecting Ketamine powder but that doesnt mean it isnt done.
I have injected ketamine crystal and powder(y crystals, never quite powder completely) without having any problems.

Just be sure to use sterile equipment and filter the solution and all that good stuff that goes with injecting things.
 
It's possible that ket krystal has been kut, Hooter. In practice I've never known it to really happen here though. Ket is so cheap and available that there's not much point kutting it cos people will just buy it from someone who doesn't kut it. If you have krystal in the UK you can virtually guarantee it's 100% pure. To be honest, the only place you're likely to find kut ket is at shady raves buying powder from strangers and even then it's fairly rare.

Incidentally, cooking krystal to powder is completely pointless - just krush it properly. Adding water and boiling it down/evaporating it does the exact same thing - just takes longer. The powder you end up with is no different from just krushing the krystal by hand.
 
k thanks m8

where is the best place (on the body) to I.M ketamine?

is cotton wool ok to use as a filter? do i put the cotton wool on the end of the pin then dip into the solution, or do i put the cotton wool into the solution then put the needle into the cotton wool and draw the liquid up that way?
 
I use mostly use my thighs and occasionally my buttocks for IMing ket, Hooter. I only use a standard 1ml insulin syringe but have heard that using proper IM needles reduces the soreness/stiffness that you get after after an IM session.

Obviously a micron filter is the ideal, but back in the real world many people (including me) still only use cotton - I use cigarette filters (the type you get for making roll-ups with). Take a small, pea-sized ball of cotton and drop it into the solution and draw the liquid through it rather than putting the cotton on the tip of the needle. Try not to bash the needle-tip against the spoon too as it will blunt it and make the injection more painful and do more damage.

PS: Make sure to aspirate (pull back the plunger) to ensure you haven't hit a vein or artery before injecting into muscle. I made the mistake of injecting into my buttock without checking once and shot into an artery. I was hospitalised and could have died - you really don't want to inject ket into an artery :|
 
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k thanks for the advice i appreciate it

is there a chance I could hit a nerve if i do it my thigh though?
is a 23g 1.5 in syringe ok to use then?

also what is rectal administration like? How much is a good starter dose and can you k hole from it?
 
There is a chance of hitting a nerve anywhere you IM something, Hooter. You will notice if you hit a nerve before injecting though so easy to avoid doing any serious damage. I wouldn't worry too much about hitting nerves but if you feel a sensation like an electric shock then don't inject (obviously) and try a different spot.

I'm not sure about gauges as I never pay attention to such things but any sterile syringe can be used successfully. Big needles are more painful though so I generally stick to standard insulin syringes. IM syringes can be acquired free from needle exchanges in the UK. They used to come as blue and brown packs (as opposed to orange packs which are 1ml IV needles) but it depends where you live what they are known as, I think.

Oral and rectal ketamine do work and have a longer duration than other methods but the doses are large (check Erowid and the main ketamine thread for the figures) and not many people use that route. Personally, it doesn't seem a worthwhile way of dosing to me but it has a few devotees. They are very few indeed though.

EDIT: Hehe. D9 makes a fair point too. I'll move this over to the main ketamine thread as this thread may have wider value to others exploring injected ketamine.

EDIT 2 - The Sequel: Oops! Moved this into the main thread before I thought of the IV/IM subthreads. Sorry for messing up your nice sub-thread categories, Solipsis :o
 
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Is I.M'ing safer/do less damage to the bladder than snorting K?
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I doubt it. The problems associated with long term ketamine use aren't actually due to the ketamine itself, but rather one of it's metabolites, norketamine.
In general though I would say snorting is safer than IM unless one is familiar with the proper safety techniques and has access to sterile equipment. Snorting ketamine dosen't require any of this. Of course you still want pure product either way, but you don't need sterile needles and saline if you plan on snorting.
 
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In general though I would say snorting is safer than IM unless one is familiar with the proper safety techniques and has access to sterile equipment. Snorting ketamine dosen't require any of this. Of course you still want pure product either way, but you don't need sterile needles and saline if you plan on snorting.
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if you're not familiar with injecting than snorting is the safer choice.

But as far as which method does less damage to the bladder...
im not sure the method of admin matters, its just prolonged use of ketamine will cause this problem
 
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