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The Big & Dandy Ketamine Thread (Third Injection)

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Has anyone vomited black bile on ketamine? I only use K on an empty stomach and have now twice vomited a thick black liquid on the comedown (the only two times I've thrown up on K)... My interpretation of this is that my gallbladder is secreting excessive amounts of bile while on K which is backing up into my stomach, but I'm having a hard time understanding the lack of color to it. There's been no hue to it, not even a dark shade of green. The volume on the first occasion was ~10ml and the other (following a more intense experience from a higher dose) ~20ml. The first happened ~15 minutes after my last insufflated dose for the evening, the more recent about an hour after IMing. I'm a light user and am healthy. Generally, black vomit indicates GI tract bleeding, but considering the lack of negative after effects I've experienced, or anything else pointing to a serious GI problem, I'm leaning towards a less dire explanation, though I'm not exactly comfortable with it ;) Opinions? Experiences?
 
I'm no doctor, but I'm pretty sure bile isn't black.

Its supposed to be more yellow/green.


So if you're throwing up black shit on an empty stomach, there's a problem beyond ketamine and an excess of bile.

I'd say hold off on the ketamine if it consistently causes this effect, and probably talk to a doctor, get some tests taken and figure it out before it gets worse.
 
When I was on a hefty K binge for a few weeks, I developed a nasty upper GI ulcer which I am convinced was at least partly caused by the ketamine. I'm not sure if this was due to the ketamine drip or if it was due to the effects of the ketamine on the body (or both).

I've never had GI problems when I I.M. it but it seems that snorting copious amounts leads to some pretty nasty side effects involving the stomach.
 
So last night (or this morning) I found myself surrounded by a bunch of long-time Ketamine users. While preparing a line I was stopped by a man who proclaimed that taking powdered Ketamine and lightly heating it on a plate (simmer for a very short time) will allow for a more enjoyable insufflation experience. I can't seem to find any information on that specific technique although my limited scientific knowledge tends to push me in the direction towards believing that this would be a relatively safe and/or effective thing to do. Perhaps I'm wrong.

Can anyone verify this?
 
naginnudej said:
So last night (or this morning) I found myself surrounded by a bunch of long-time Ketamine users. While preparing a line I was stopped by a man who proclaimed that taking powdered Ketamine and lightly heating it on a plate (simmer for a very short time) will allow for a more enjoyable insufflation experience. I can't seem to find any information on that specific technique although my limited scientific knowledge tends to push me in the direction towards believing that this would be a relatively safe and/or effective thing to do. Perhaps I'm wrong.

Can anyone verify this?
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http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=257413

seems like a pointless ritual. Crushing works just fine.
 
I didn't mean to imply turning it into liquid...just heating the powder enough so it is warm to the touch and subsequently insufflating it.
 
The only time I've done "hot rails" is after evaporating liquid ketamine to powder on a small plate in a toaster oven. I don't think I noticed any difference, but I can imagine it becoming a ritual that people swear by simply because it's a unique sensation. I think the powder itself cools to the temperature inside your nose within seconds of being insufflated. It would be easy to test just by dumping some hot ketamine onto a room temperature plate for a few seconds before snorting to see if it retains heat. I'm not sure if raising the temperature of the mucus membranes for a really short time would be enough to dilate membrane capillaries and possibly increase the rate of absorption, but this could be done for longer by inhaling steam without bothering with heating the ketamine.
 
Hmmm, I don't know about insufflating hot/warm ketamine. What if it's too hot and starts to burn? You might be in a little trouble, lol

:! <---- when the ketamine starts to burn

:p <-----when you taste the warm, ketamine drip. first it tastes terrible, but then....

:D :D <----- you remember what will happen soon. So you get very very happy... :)

I think it might be one of those crazy drug myths someone started that heating ketamine is better for you in some way (more drug absorbed?) I think it would take more than warm ketamine to dilate capillary membranes (if that is the theory, and I'm guessing that would be the pseudo-rational behind it, psood0nym, I didn't even think of that. I know it's not proof that it doesn't work, but it seems strange that users who use coke/heroin/etc nasally don't do it. You'd think if it actually worked, it would spill over into other drug circles with similar use methods. Lol, OT, in high school a friend told me that snorting in the right nostril was better cause it went straight to the brain 8) whereas the left side took a detour, lol.


This idea only reminds me of the days of fresh-cooked ketamine, where me and friends would take vials, dry them carefully on a microwave plate on lowest heat, and move the liquid around until it frosted up the plate with dried ketamine. Then you scraped it up, and did some right there, maybe passed it around for a little, and got nicely k-d out while still havin plenty for yourself :)

Ah, the whole ritual was intoxicating.
<3 ketamine <3
 
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I've wondering about different types of K, like human/animal, s isomer, r isomer, etc.
what exactly makes the K human or animal? is it which isomer(s) are in the brand?
Im curious because I have had many different types (ketaset, anasket, ketalar, cheminova, tokkyo) and they all affect me very differently. cheminova is without a doubt my favorite, with anasket a close 2nd. Does anyone know the isomers of these brands of K?? and how did you find this information out?
 
i actually love snorting ketamine
it is nearly as beautiful than the actual high itself

Has anyone drunk alcohol while on K?
Does it make you more likely to hole?
Just how bad isit for you combining k and alcohol?
 
I often drink booze (and GBL) on K, Hooter. It's not such a great combo though - I'm just an drugpig and borderline alcoholic :\

Makes the ket more nauseating, makes your headspin like crazy and dulls the psychedelic effects somewhat. Or makes them even more confusing than they usually are. Generally all of the above :D

Doesn't really help you to hole, in my experience. Does make you more likely to pass out and/or forget everything though :\

Coupla drinks are fine (not very useful but you shouldn't get too messy) but getting tanked up is really not such a great idea. Dunno about physical dangers but I'd imagine respiratory depression would be the main concern.
 
i've barely got any connects for ketamine......would going out to clubs and raves increase my connections?

do NOT PM me saying you can get it....i'm not here for sourcing, just need to find out how I can increase my chance of finding any because i'm not going to go out on the street and ask any random shmuck if they can get any special k...........unless this is considered sourcing than just delete this post
 
As with all drugs, how easy to find it is all depends on who you know how. Dunno about the US and don't go to clubs but in the UK you find that festivals, psytrance events and the like are full of ket. Actually, the whole of the UK is flooded with dirt cheap, pure ket so maybe move over here =D
 
Shambles, as weird as this may sound, when I was K rocked in my bed last night your name popped into my head. Didn't stay for long, but it happened. lol
 
Shambles said:
I wouldn't snort water as it'll just wash the ketamine down your throat meaning you swallow it again. Some have reported success by making a solution and using a small spray bottle to spray it directly onto the nasal membranes though.
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Would you care to elaborate on this? I've been doing some research and it seems as if I need to dissolve it in water and add a dispersant. Am I on the right track? This seems really appealing to me.

Would it be possible to concentrate the Ketamine enough to get 35mg+ out of 2 sprays?
 
naginnudej said:
Would you care to elaborate on this? I've been doing some research and it seems as if I need to dissolve it in water and add a dispersant. Am I on the right track? This seems really appealing to me.

Would it be possible to concentrate the Ketamine enough to get 35mg+ out of 2 sprays?
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ketamines saturation level is 200mg/ml. Most nasal spray bottles disperse .125-.175ml per spray.

The one I currently have is .150ml per spray so that would be 30mg per spray.

the only problem you have to worry about is that the K easily crystalizes out of solution when it's saturated, so you would want to keep the bottle as full as possible. Also the spray nozzle may get clogged with crystalized K. But it works, if you're going to have a night session with 1g in a bottle, crystalization should not be an issue.
 
Bought a nose spray once to use for this purpose, turned out there is no freakin way to get into the container and add own stuff :\
Better luck next time
 
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