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☛ Official ☚ The Big & Dandy Ibogaine/Iboga Thread

I feel like ibogaine is something to do only when you have tried everything else and you just can't seem to stop opiates. It took me 10 years of addiction before I considered it seriously enough to do it. Before that I tried everything except I never did in-patient rehab (I did do an out-patient thing though), simply because my job is too important to my life and I wouldn't have been able to spend that time for it and keep the job.

It worked beautifully for me, but it's a really big commitment and not the safest thing you could do, and you really have to line up everything just right. I'm eternally grateful that I did it, but it's not something I recommend too easily, despite my gushing about it on here.
 
I spent months researching Ibogaine to end my heroin addiction - or at least get me through the worst of the detox. I ordered from a respected source some IBOGAINE HCL and the IBOGA Indra Extract. After purchase (some £500) I was given dosage instructions etc. Then a friend of mine died doing it - he was in pretty bad - well, very bad - shape though, I had my bloods, liver and heart checked by my Dr and it was all (surprisingly) good. Then I lost my bottle. I still have it in the fridge! Maybe one day, going to try some more conventional detoxes again first.
 
Yeah people have died from ibogaine, due to heart issues as I understand. I'm sorry for your loss. :( For me, I was in bad shape physically (weak, underweight, etc) but my heart was fine, and when I took the TA + HCl in combination (rather than just HCl) I found that my heart rate never even really increased appreciably, it was very comfortable the whole time. But I am thinking different people react differently to iboga, because some people report the acute experience lasting only 12-24 hours, whereas for me it lasted 3 full days (72+ hours). I found it to feel good actually, it felt like that state where you wake up just a little and you feel so comfortable and nice and relaxed. I wouldn't count on much of anything from just one person's experience though.
 
Ibogaine prolongs the heart's QT. Risk of cardiac arrhythmia and cardiac arrest are a concern with ibogaine. However, interactions with other substances or health problems can also be a concern. If you are going to do it on your own, talk to someone who is familiar with it first. There are a lot of x factors people don't take into account before ingesting ibogaine.
 
Not a noob, but haven't posted here before. It looks like all ibogaine-related questions are piled into this one big thread or get moved here, so instead of starting a new topic asking about microdosing ibo in particular, I'm hitting it up in here. If this is totally the wrong thing to do, sorry about that! ;-)

I'm wondering if anybody knows of any pubs at all about microdosing ibogaine. There's Patrick Kroupa's paper published in MAPS http://ibogaine.mindvox.com/article...ry-boosters-tune-ups-maintenance-microdosing/ and other then this I am finding. Nothing...

Is there some search term I'm missing on pubmed? I tried low dose ibogaine, microdose is slang and won't hit for anything but there's 50 years of silence, that one paper and 10+ years more silence except a few more then a little kooky YouTube vids which isn't what I'm looking for ;-)

Thanks!
 
I've read that ibogaine loses potency over time, so would keeping it in the freezer halt this process, and keep it at full potency?
 
[FONT=arial, sans-serif]It works but you can´t leave it there for too long.[/FONT]
 
StanleyJobson said:
Anyone have any experience micro-dosing? I have some questions.
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I will finish a 1g TA extract experiment (microdosage) in 1/2 weeks. Maybe I can help you! Iboga in microdosage (roughly 40mg TA/day orally, or 25mg sublingualy) didn't curve my craving for drug pleasure, but I felt (and feel now) a subtle but present antidepressive effect (soooo nice). My mood hasn't been so up since I started taking regularly GHB/codeine/MDXX... I feel more confident, can feel more pleasure from social interactions, and can laugh out loud with after a cathartic feeling i've never felt since abusing drugs. Microdosing decrease a lot the low mood post opiate use, but opiate use decrease the antidepressive effect of iboga. The feel of low dosage on me is basically beeing more in the present moment, with a kind of stimulating effect. But this stimulating effect (if dose right, and at right times) don't block your sleep : Actually in me, I sleep better than before ibogaine!

I've mixed low doses iboga with codein, and DXM (360mg and 720mg) without problems. For the DXM I was surprised (I increased the doses slowly, danger of serotonin syndrom?) but actually I felt that iboga curve ankles of the DXM trip, and add warm and some psychedelelia! Exaclty what I'm looking for in a DXM trip, so hum perfect.... but for me, stay safe and don't assume it will be the same for you! I know very well DXM and I'm "normal" at the cytochrome P450 2Dthing.
 
I never used it but I hope it gets you off opiates. I don't know why anyone ever gets addicted to opiates, other than because of pain. Never used them myself. If you know something causes physical addiction why use it, right? It's like "here, take this heroin". "No thanks, I think I'll pass". WTF man? You're addicted to mufuckin heroin now. Bad lifestyle choice! Anyway, just take the ibogaine and then never touch opiates again unless you're a complete jackass.
 
Are you talking to me? I don't use opiates. Ibogaine is more than just a tool for getting off heroin. And dude, if I was an addict, then you just gave me possibly the worst advice I've ever heard. What you'd be doing with your post right above me is loading my brain full of guilt and misinformation. I advise you avoid this topic entirely.
 
jason7 said:
I never used it but I hope it gets you off opiates. I don't know why anyone ever gets addicted to opiates, other than because of pain. Never used them myself. If you know something causes physical addiction why use it, right? It's like "here, take this heroin". "No thanks, I think I'll pass". WTF man? You're addicted to mufuckin heroin now. Bad lifestyle choice! Anyway, just take the ibogaine and then never touch opiates again unless you're a complete jackass.
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You're so naive dude. Addiction is not as simple. Addiction is a love/hate affair between a human beeing and a chemical. Have you ever been deeply in love with someone? Some people test drugs in the first place because of curiosity, other because they want to alleviate physical/mental pain more or less unconsciously. After that, there are genetic variables we don't really understand yet.

If you know something causes physical addiction why use it, right?
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Do you ever tried alcohol? If so, you have already tried a drug that can create physical addiction. A few people try this drug and fall in love with. Some others not! Power to you if you're one of the lucky one who didn't fall deeply in love with alcohol, but when you first tried it, there was a little probability of this trial to screw your life. Don't judge other people for something you did also (trying a new chemical), but had genetic, biochemistry, luck or whatever to not fall in love with.

Addiction is a freaking complex mechanism
 
just to let you know, I’m on course to end a 10 years spell of opiate consumption (kratom and poppies).

Two months ago I was doing 4-6 spoonfuls of dry strong white poppies per day. In a couple of weeks I slowly substituted it for kratom, half a spoon at a time, till I fully substituted the effects of the 6 spoonful of poppies with 24 spoonful of kratom.

Then in a month and a half I have been tapering off the kratom. I do this taking 4 kratom doses a day. I take half a dose at 11am, another half a dose at 5pm, then a full dose and a half at 10pm, and finally a full dose at 4am.

I’ve have successfully reduced the pain, mental anguish and other inconveniences to a minumum, using methoxetamine in the morning (usually 2 or three doses of less than 10 milligrams, first dose at breakfast and the last dose before lunch at 2pm)
During the afternoon and evening I’ve been drinking strong wild dagga infusions. I have lots of them plants in the garden and I found out they help a lot with the restlessness, especially when mixed with some cannabis indica.
I’m also using massive amounts of cannabis indica before dinner to be able to sleep at night (luckily I had a great harvest last summer, with 3 different sleeping varieties that i rotate daily to minimise tolerance. I never use cannabis in the mornings or afternoons for the same reason).

So sleep was ok for most of the tapering… I was waking up after 4 hours, but was able to have the planned dose of kratom, smoke some cannabis, and fall back to sleep in about half an hour…

Now that I'm approaching the end, it becomes increasingly harder.
I haven't been very successful at sleeping since last week… have a bit of restless legs in the evenings too, despite the cannabis and the wild dagga (although they help a lot, specially the dagga) I’ve been sleeping less than 4 hours a day for the last 4 days, despite the massive amounts of –according to my friends- very strong, active and effective cannabis indica (orally, made into cannabutter and consequently into delicious cakes or milkshakes... I've already finished a whole big indica plant and half of another... in a month and a half!)

now, to avoid the PAWS of 10 years of strong opiate addiction, I’m planning to try for the first time iboga, so I bought some in a shop today, and I expect to receive it next week. I ordered 15 grams of a powdered root bark that is supposed to contain 4.5% of ibogaine… anyone could give me advise about how to use it? anyone who has already experience iboga?


...I think I ought to post this in a new thread in the darkside... just in case I'm successful, so other people get to know another way to end their adictions
 
I'd advise getting some ondansetron to take at 6 hour intervals or as required (16 mg), because ibo is apparently extremely nauseating and the vomiting would dehydrate and exhaust you. In fact, the ibo experience actually sounds almost as bad as opiate withdrawals. To find a source, go to a less uptight forum, like this or this. Why BL is so worried about source or price discussion I don't know. I actually only use this forum because it gets more posting activity than those other ones. That's pretty much it's only advantage. Maybe they'll even delete the links I gave. Frankly it wouldn't surprise me in the least. I would think that giving reliable sources for high purity chemicals would reduce harm, but apparently the forum owners can't comprehend that. For instance, right now you want to find a source for ibo so you can get off opiates but we can't tell you, therefore you have to stay addicted to heroin. Nice harm reduction, BL. Sure helped that guy out.
 
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I'd advise getting some ondansetron to take at 6 hour intervals or as required (16 mg), because ibo is apparently extremely nauseating and the vomiting would dehydrate and exhaust you. In fact, the ibo experience actually sounds almost as bad as opiate withdrawals. To find a source, go to a less uptight forum, like this or this. Why BL is so worried about source or price discussion I don't know. I actually only use this forum because it gets more posting activity than those other ones. That's pretty much it's only advantage. Maybe they'll even delete the links I gave. Frankly it wouldn't surprise me in the least. I would think that giving reliable sources for high purity chemicals would reduce harm, but apparently the forum owners can't comprehend that. For instance, right now you want to find a source for ibo so you can get off opiates but we can't tell you, therefore you have to stay addicted to heroin. Nice harm reduction, BL. Sure helped that guy out.
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In microdosage, I never felt a hint of nausea with iboga TA extract. Do you speak about flood doses?
 
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