The Big & Dandy HPPD Thread

[strangedays_indeed]

the things are going on around you all the time. hppd yes aka third eye has tryptamine dust on it? no no its the eye opening tehehe. peace peace

 

[Delsyd]

2C-x are very prone in making HPPD, 2C-I caused me lot's of HPPD, 2C-E didn't did so much for HPPD, and 2C-C neither.

2c-i is pretty notorious for causing residual visual effects the days following the trip.
Ive this before myself.

Its not HPPD though as the effects tend to go away after some days.

 

[g1zzl3]

What is the best way of toneing down or getting rid of HPPD somewhat without completly stopping drug use?? I heard that some Opiates can do this?

 

[bonsaikitten]

psyches/pot and mild HPPD?

I have mild visual disturbances after my last LSD experience (some 6 months ago now) and they don't bother me at all, but I want to continue using drugs whilst not worsening my condition XD

I want to try smoking pot (for the first time), but am a little worried it will negatively impact upon my "HPPD". Any experience?

I was also hoping to take half a tab of acid in a few month's time.

Has anyone else experienced visual aftereffects and continued using psychedelics/pot? I really appreciate any responses.

(I know that quite a few people on this board have long term visuals - but I'm not sure if these people continued to use after these symptoms emerged or whether it scared them off psyches)

 

[ALICE_D418]

yeah I did continue to use, I mean think of it this way lsd and drugs like it work by turning off the filter between your eyes and brain. Of course their is more to it than that, but the nerves that carry what you see from your eyes to you brain kinda "turns off" when on those drugs. So that garbage random colors, static, tracers, ect are always going on, it is just our eyes and mind have been created to filter it out. As far as when you get to doses when things completely turn from something in to another thats a different story, and bigg doses. I have done alot of lsd, musrooms, research chemicals, and finally with dmt I saw things completely change, and that was like another planet.

Just remember be careful, and marijuana always added to my visual disturbances, while prolly not HPPD, can be intensified while smoking pot, esp at night. Like I said i doubt after one lsd trip you have HPPD, most likely just your brain is still picking up visual garbage sometimes now that you have tuned into it

 

[kayenta]

I have mild visual disturbances after my last LSD experience (some 6 months ago now) and they don't bother me at all, but I want to continue using drugs whilst not worsening my condition XD

I want to try smoking pot (for the first time), but am a little worried it will negatively impact upon my "HPPD". Any experience?

I've had mild HPPD like you describe ever since I first did acid over a year ago (that was my first psychedelic). I smoke pot on a near-daily basis and I've never had any issues whatsoever with my HPPD while stoned. It's present to no greater an extent, and it's no more noticeable than it normally is.

I've also indulged in a fairly wide variety of psychedelics since then and likewise my HPPD has had no effect on any of my trips.

Weird that you've done acid but have never smoked weed btw.

 

[strangedays_indeed]

this used to happen to me when i was younger and ingested psychedelics on a weekly basis. i would start to get stoned and see very intense rainbows coming off of lights at night and tracers off cars.

everybody's body and mind is different but i noticed a decrease of this 3rd eye activity after a few months of less frequent experimentation, especially on the compound lsd. i dont think its anything to worry about at all, what exactly is normal anymore anyways I dont really remember peace doode.

 

[Rifkala]

MDMA: aprox. 12 times (1 year - mixture of pills and molly)
LSD: 4 times (8 months - aprox. 9 tabs)
Mushrooms: 4 times (8 months - 1/2 ounce total)
Ketamine: aprox 10 times (8 months - about 1.5 grams, total.)
DMT: aprox 7 times (8 months -about .8 grams)

i noticed this immediately after my first acid trip. my spacial cognition will sometimes fade, and rooms/hallways/etc seem wider and deeper. also, it often seems that greens, blues, and browns are more vivid, and objects such as leaves, branches, flowers, chairs, faces seem to almost float above everything else in my vision.

also, i've had phantom DMT trips since I first tried the substance. It appears in a geometric pattern that grows from the center of my vision; it looks almost like a spiked, childishly drawn sun that melds into a tyedye of greens, golds, purples, yellows, and oranges. while this appears on a smaller scale, it appears often and frequently after I smoke marijuana.

I also get instances where naturally occurring patterns in wood, tile, and granite walls/floors begin to elevate into patterned layers an move (often flowing or vibrating). while this is mild, it can be a little disconcerting when you're trying to take a crap and the wall in front of you begins to move.

for the most part, this doesn't really impact my life.

the only time it does, though, is I occassionaly phase back into mild, mushroom-esque visuals when driving. the white and yellow lines on the road begin to move in a jerky, disjointed manner reminiscent of the old-cartoon visuals I always get at the tail end of a mushroom trip.
i can concentrate and overcome it, but i know that my driving become wobbly when this occurs.

i'm definitely a heavy user of psychedelics, but i'm planning on taking a break after my next mushroom trip. i have not done ketamine in about one month, and it has been almost two months since my last roll. while i actually enjoy the infrequent trippy flashback, i know i have to address this since it has leaking into my driving...

 

[BTrips]

Holy fuck I know EXACTLY what your talking about..

those little things are fucking wierd man.. like what are they? what is the scientific/biological explination for seeing them? they don't make any sense... Seeing trails and colors change from HPPD is one thing..but those things you described there are fucking wierd.... heh.. i just seen one now as i type this.. perhaps thinking about them/talking about them trigger them?

i think those are bacteria in your eye moving over your pupil...

 

[Octarine]

I would like to see how many people that use psychedelic drugs have HPPD, or Hallucinogen Persisting Perception Disorder. More information can be found here.

If you believe you do have HPPD, please answer:

1) How many times have you tripped?
2) Did you experience HPPD after a bad trip?
3) On which substances did HPPD become apparent?

1)40+
2)I experienced it after a long trip. I was tripping off DOB for over 32 hours and I would see light strands fly in from different angles quickly. Months after this trip I seen them again while not tripping. I recently seen them again on my LSD trip.. Another one I find hard to explain.. When I stop tripping off LSD there is a glow to everything.. I cannot begin to explain what it looks like because it is on everything so naturally. It seemed to never go away until recently.
3)DOB/LSD

 

[Leftley]

I see on occasion still these really bright tiny dots floating in the air ..of course they aren't there ..but kinda neat sometimes ..not sure why seeing dots is but it is ..haven't tripped in like 5 years though ..maybe it was the E ..haven't done that in 2 years ..either way was from one of the two ..

Kinda like little stars floating around? Thats happened to me twice in the last month, one time sober (2 weeks ago) and one time on a comedown (today).

 

[tBirdee]

Search "Floaters"

 

[Leftley]

If that was directed to me, searching floaters on google & bluelight, brought up alot of things, but nothing about little stars floating near my face.

edit : >_> how could i ignore wikipedia.

 

[tBirdee]

^ It wasn't directed to you, someone up there was asking about them I'm pretty sure

 

[zebigmonst3r]

I'm beginning to think that I have HPPD. I've used LSD 3 times and Mushrooms 2 times. After my second time using LSD, which was 5 tabs and tripped for about 12 hours or so, I noticed that blank surfaces seemed different. Blank walls or sheets of paper almost have this static-like look to it. Sometimes I think I see slight patterning, and I see floaters more than I usually would. Do I have HPPD? It doesn't really impact me in a negative way, I'm just aware of it. I'm going to lessen my use of LSD since I feel it is from that more than mushrooms. Also, can the effects worsen or can more, worse and more impairing and noticable ones, come about? Any answers would be appreciated.

 

[2cDub]

I have had HPPD ever since my first lsd trip and it has increased with every trip i have had since (Even from a couple of 'upper' experiences). I would say in total it is about 10 shroom trips and 7 lsd trips, plus a few very strange hallucinations from dodgey amphetamines and BZP.

The hallucinations include patterns, retina traces (From lights, the sun etc.) and distortion, all of these become far more prominant when im high on skunk or drunk (Strangely). They mainly show up on large same colour surfaces like screens like the one your staring at, the sky or walls. This can get very annoying sometimes when im trying to work but can be excellent when im getting stoned as it is like a permanent, light trip.

 

[33Hz]

I get a strobing effect where the overtaking vehicle looks like it lurches forward in repeating steps. It goes away if I look directly over at it.

Oh, man... I used to get the exact same effect. Also during the evening I would see tracers coming off the headlights of cars. This hasn't happened for at least 2-3 years though. Recently after using 2c-e I've noticed that I get bursts of deep purple in my peripheral vision, lasting 1-2 seconds. Sometimes it engulfs the whole of my visual field and everything has a purple tinge to it, and the edges of objects take on an electric blue and yellow glow. I never once had any negative emotions accompanying this though, in fact quite the opposite. I usually enjoy it since it doesn't persist for longer than a few seconds.

 

[BenzosBudOrBooty]

only hallucinagene ive done to this point is acid. probably like 7-9 times (i forget). it was all in a span of nov last year to january this year.

i get constant hppd, shits always moving or being kinda trippy. i always get this good/bad acidy feeling in my head whenever something good/bad happens. and whenever i do drugs it intensifies. and at night it comes back a lot when im trying to fall asleep. i kind of like my hppd though . i feel i learn a lot from it most of the time

im suppose to take anti-psychotics to counter it, but i cant decide if i wanna get rid of it or no

 

[LysergicEpiphany]

I have, for a long time after my former diethyl ether addiction, a visual artifact when closing eyes, of slight circles, geometric patterns (many squares, within squares, with detatched corners) of a non-describeable color, if you understand how that can be possible.

My "visual" background when I close my eyes in the dark, undergoes color changes, of a neon-dark-green, again, difficult to describe, intermixed with pink and a royal purple color, these shift and merge.

If there were a cure for it, I would refuse it, the "HPPD", although in my particular case, I do not look upon it as a disorder, actually helps me, as I have terrible insomnia, have since childhood, closing my eyes while breathing rythmically in and out provides a drug-free visually hallucinatory relaxing meditative setting, and allows me to help drift off when my insomnia isn't so severe as to require massive amounts of benzos.

I have similar symptoms yet i find the CEV's hard to describe, i prefer not talking to people about it, Just because of the fact they think its because of my drug use. I have had HPPD like symptoms since i can remember, visual disturbances, floaters like when you look at the sky but whilst indoors ect. Ive always thought everybody gets that colour thing whilst they're eyes are closed ? Blue then to neon grreen then to yellow and then it starts getting funky and mashing them against each other This is when i fall into a state where i am still conscious yet i am unable to move my arms or legs, if i open my eyes in the slightest the light coming through the crack in my door is morphed, i find the body feel to be similar to large doses of ketamine, the 'I can move, but my body doesnt want me to'. Doing Psyches has just enable me to interpret meaning and make up patterns within the 'Realm Of The Eternal Mysterious Unvoid In Which Is My Mind'.
1) How many times have you tripped? K =100's LSD =10> Shrooms= 3 2c-x= 3
2) Did you experience HPPD after a bad trip? couldnt say, always manage to talk myself out of a bad way, and cant see how other people cant aswell, im only 15, Maybe they have an extremely over-active imagination.
3) On which substances did HPPD become apparent? Once munched a 3rd of a gram of MDMA which ended up in a reccuring geometric hallucination being present on my floor on my bathroom, had only rolled once before my god did i get a bitchslap from the chemical world, My wakeup call I think someone is more likely to have a persistant visual off high amounts of MDMA than if they do shrooms or cid, i cant explain why, i just KNOW. Peace.

 

[Mantis Style]

only hallucinagene ive done to this point is acid. probably like 7-9 times (i forget). it was all in a span of nov last year to january this year.

i get constant hppd, shits always moving or being kinda trippy. i always get this good/bad acidy feeling in my head whenever something good/bad happens. and whenever i do drugs it intensifies. and at night it comes back a lot when im trying to fall asleep. i kind of like my hppd though . i feel i learn a lot from it most of the time

im suppose to take anti-psychotics to counter it, but i cant decide if i wanna get rid of it or no

You actually take the Anti-P's? If you have the actual disorder, theres almost a 100% chance that you'll have an increase in visuals. Anti P's are serotonin receptor antagonists, and this property of the drug will further decrease the inhibitory effect of interneurons in the visual cortex that have 5-ht2 receptors.

I would suggest NEVER touching anti-psychaotics for this..EVER. Its not a valid treatment. The reason doctors prescribe that shit for the condition is because they hear the word "hallucinations" and their clinically trained brain automatically goes to something like schizophrenia. Refer to them as pseudo-hallucinations and be very clear that they are more like visual disturbances and you are aware of them.