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The Big & Dandy HPPD Thread

HPPD - a blessing? a curse? inevitable?

Hi, I am really quite confused about HPPD. I inititally thought that one's chances of getting HPPD from psychedelic use were small enough to be worthy of dismissal. However, it seems that it is a lot more common than I perhaps first presumed. A lot of the posters here have described living with HPPD as a nightmare and a living hell. Others have said that it is really only, in their case, mild (albeit persisting) visual distortitions that prove no more irritating or debilitating than a neon mosquito flying about in their peripheral visions.

What I want to know is - do you regard HPPD as inevitable? And is it? Are the chances of getting it really much higher than previously thought, and is it wise to persist with psychedelic use in spite of HPPD? Are there any known precautionary methods to lower ones chances of getting HPPD (other than abstinence, obviously)? Are there any solid statistics/studies/scientific evidence on the subject?
 
bonsaikitten said:
Hi, I am really quite confused about HPPD. I inititally thought that one's chances of getting HPPD from psychedelic use were small enough to be worthy of dismissal. However, it seems that it is a lot more common than I perhaps first presumed. A lot of the posters here have described living with HPPD as a nightmare and a living hell. Others have said that it is really only, in their case, mild (albeit persisting) visual distortitions that prove no more irritating or debilitating than a neon mosquito flying about in their peripheral visions.

What I want to know is - do you regard HPPD as inevitable? And is it? Are the chances of getting it really much higher than previously thought, and is it wise to persist with psychedelic use in spite of HPPD? Are there any known precautionary methods to lower ones chances of getting HPPD (other than abstinence, obviously)? Are there any solid statistics/studies/scientific evidence on the subject?
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At this point......no one can answer those question accurately.

But things are in motion for legitamate and extensive research into HPPD, including treatments that dont just mask symptoms, but remove symptoms completely via reversing the visual cortex back to an inhibitory state instead of a state of excess excitation.

One thing for sure i can tell you is that if you do psychedelics or serotonin related drugs and you percieve a change in visual processing, thats a sign to stop use.
 
ShaolinBomber said:
At this point......no one can answer those question accurately.

But things are in motion for legitamate and extensive research into HPPD, including treatments that dont just mask symptoms, but remove symptoms completely via reversing the visual cortex back to an inhibitory state instead of a state of excess excitation.

One thing for sure i can tell you is that if you do psychedelics or serotonin related drugs and you percieve a change in visual processing, thats a sign to stop use.
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Thankyou so much for your reply. When you said that perceiving a change in visual processing is a sign to cease use of psychedelics - did you mean that it is a sign to permanently stop? Or stop until the symptoms desist?

I may be excessively paranoid, but a day after my last trip I'm still noticing tracers and faint patterns occasionally. Is this normal or something more serious? 8)8)
 
I experience snowy vision, like everything is made of pixels, I also get after-images of any light source I look at that linger. Definitely isn't HPPD though, doesn't bother me enough. The thing is, as far as I can remember I have always perceived the world like this. I was really surprised to find out that visual snow wasn't just how everyone's vision was.
 
Yerg said:
I experience snowy vision, like everything is made of pixels, I also get after-images of any light source I look at that linger. Definitely isn't HPPD though, doesn't bother me enough. The thing is, as far as I can remember I have always perceived the world like this. I was really surprised to find out that visual snow wasn't just how everyone's vision was.
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sounds like palinopsia, which is what they refer to as HPPD symptoms in people who've never taken drugs or people who've always had them.
 
^Have you noticed any further improvement in symptoms since your last report at week two of Keppra therapy? Any qualitative details would be greatly appreciated. It's now been close to eight weeks, so I imagine you are probably nearing the maximum effect.

Thanks.
 
^ I think that's like me at the moment. I just worry that it will get worse with continued use of psychedelics. Does current evidence suggest this?
 
Optimus Crime said:
Sometimes I fear I opened my mind up too much , maybe that's why I drink like this
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If you drink too much because of past psychedelic experiences then I have to disagree, you didn't open your mind enough or the right way = P

Take LSD alone and go with the flow, no reason why you can't repair damage done. LSD is medicine when used correctly. Turn yourself to God and you'll have a great trip.
 
if you're getting persistent visuals that dont go away after psyche use, i would suggest to stay as far away from them as possible.

Opiates are a better high anyway!
 
Dondante said:
^Have you noticed any further improvement in symptoms since your last report at week two of Keppra therapy? Any qualitative details would be greatly appreciated. It's now been close to eight weeks, so I imagine you are probably nearing the maximum effect.

Thanks.
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i stopped the keppra awhile ago. IT wasn't doing much for me except making me tired and irritable. Im back on klonopin.
 
ShaolinBomber said:
Opiates are a better high anyway!
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Oh man...we must come from different planets or something.

Please be careful if you notice that you're self medicating with opiates for HPPD. That gives me the impression that it leads down a dark road.

<3
 
Dondante said:
Oh man...we must come from different planets or something.

Please be careful if you notice that you're self medicating with opiates for HPPD. That gives me the impression that it leads down a dark road.

<3
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that was more of a joke. I've done oxycontin a few times and it makes me feel normal but i realize it'd be adding another problem ontop of the hairy problem im already in. I'll stick with the klonopin.
 
ShaolinBomber said:
if you're getting persistent visuals that dont go away after psyche use, i would suggest to stay as far away from them as possible.

Opiates are a better high anyway!
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Even if they're just mild? I take it from your last post that you have HPPD? Could you tell me about how it started/manifested, what drugs you took and how long it's been since you've used them? You may have already shared this information earlier in the thread, so forgive me if you have.
 
bonsaikitten said:
Even if they're just mild? I take it from your last post that you have HPPD? Could you tell me about how it started/manifested, what drugs you took and how long it's been since you've used them? You may have already shared this information earlier in the thread, so forgive me if you have.
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Once HPPD visual symptoms set in, you will know exactly whats happening. HPPD literally is a combined problem of visual disturbance and enhancement at the same time.

Colors will be brighter, you will be more sensitive to light, artificial lighting at night will produce large and small halos, as well as tracers off of moving light.

Visual snow will impair your ability to see at night. Theres more but i dont feel like typing it all out.

And yes i have HPPD, although i consider my case to be mild. I got it from about 300mg "pure" MDMA in one night. The week after slowly started to become more and more bizarre until i looked for these symptoms i was having. Theres not a word that quite describes the feeling of being detached and seeing psuedo-hallucinations 24/7. Klonopin helps a bit to reduce these feelings and visuals, but its a mask.
 
Thankyou for sharing that... Earlier in the thread you said this:

But things are in motion for legitamate and extensive research into HPPD, including treatments that dont just mask symptoms, but remove symptoms completely via reversing the visual cortex back to an inhibitory state instead of a state of excess excitation.
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Do you have any sources of information on these studies into possible cures/preventative measures that may be established in the future to treat the symptoms of HPPD?
 
bonsaikitten said:
Thankyou for sharing that... Earlier in the thread you said this:



Do you have any sources of information on these studies into possible cures/preventative measures that may be established in the future to treat the symptoms of HPPD?
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i keep in contact with someone i cant name for his own safety and security of future research. Hes got an allstar team working with him, some of the most well respected and brilliant minds in modern medical technology.

Even though i keep in contact with him, he cant tell me all that hes doing either, although hes told me a couple things they're working on that are basically ground breaking in the field.

This person has ALOT on his plate and they're working on multiple things and questions that have yet to be answered that need to be resolved first. I've been asked specifically not to share anything because it jeopradizes his future funding. I hope this was helpful.
 
ShaolinBomber said:
i keep in contact with someone i cant name for his own safety and security of future research. Hes got an allstar team working with him, some of the most well respected and brilliant minds in modern medical technology.

Even though i keep in contact with him, he cant tell me all that hes doing either, although hes told me a couple things they're working on that are basically ground breaking in the field.

This person has ALOT on his plate and they're working on multiple things and questions that have yet to be answered that need to be resolved first. I've been asked specifically not to share anything because it jeopradizes his future funding. I hope this was helpful.
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It was :) That's really great given that there are some people who have been suffering from HPPD for decades. Thanks for sharing.
 
hppd is a glitch in the matrix system due to mind expansion beyond the brink of restricted human conciousness, they just call it a disorder so people wouldn't think twice about it
duuhhhh
 
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