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The Big & Dandy HPPD Thread

I don't have HPPD.

But I noticed after shrooming, things start to breath and shit..up to weeks afterward. Haha. I used to shroom like every week. But stopped that and now not so much.

Sometimes I see things moving, morphing, or bright lights flashing in the corner of my eyes. Kinda freaky. o.O...

I'm not a reg. user of drugs tho..I think it's just my mind fucking around with me...lolz.
 
everything has had a slight acid gleam to it after eating quite a few blotters, never happened with my previous experiments with mushrooms
 
Alot of the symptoms I've had since I've first started tripping, though some of the supposed symptoms I've had as far back as I can remember (before I started taking drugs)
 
I wanted to do my senior thesis in undergrad on the incredible similarities between PTSD and HPPD but there just wasn't enough information out there.
 
and for the record, I see rainbow trash, ya know, colored TV static. it used get severe enough to obscure my vision.
 
I don't think what I have would be considered HPPD because it does not interfere with my daily life and I barely notice it anymore I'm so used to it. I haven't done any RC's only LSD, Mush, MDMA, etc. I also smoke cannabis daily so this definitely exacerbates it.

My symptoms are fairly mild. When looking at solid colors I see static and slight color variations such as light pastel colors over laying my vision in places. I get very mild "trails" when moving an object slowly across my vision. I also notice that when outdoors, things seem to have an added depth to them making pretty scenery even more beautiful.

I don't mind any of these symptoms really and the last one is actually often appreciated. That being said, 30 years from now I might get a bit sick of it. Especially if they worsen. Still, it's well worth the amazing experiences I have had with psychedelics.
 
^^

We're in the same boat then. My symptoms don't interfere with my daily activities either. The last time I had the "fireflies" I was in my outpatient rehab and I was going to say something, but I decided not to. Sometimes everything looks really crisp with oversaturated colors, or colors from one object will slightly influence the color of its immediate surroundings. It feels very much like a 3 seed dose of HBW.

In fact, the psychedelic I used most by far was HBW, probably over 300 trips. I've also combined it with MDA, MDMA, 2C-E (:D), N20, Salvia, High-Dose Sertraline, Amphetamine, Crack Cocaine, and Cannabis, of course. I feel like the stimulants in particular "burned" the psychedelia into my brain, but thats probably more perception than reality (no double-entendre intended). Other than that I've taken Psilocybin 10 times and LSD 5 times.

Hey I'm getting the fireflies right now... damn, it just makes me want to trip full-on!
 
It sounds like a lot of people here are describing "phosphenes". These are normal and common visual phenomena that can also be seen under the influence of psychedelics but do not require them. One simple way to generate phosphenes is to close your eyes and rub them for a few minutes. The patterns that are seen can persist for some time after the eyes are opened. There are also spontaneous phosphenes that are seen as flashes of light or stars moving around in the visual field. These are often seen by people who have never taken psychedelics. I can remember rubbing my eyes as a child to generate visual patterns, years before I ever had any psychedelics.:D I think that HPPD, like ADD, is overdiagnosed.:(
 
^Yea I think I know what you mean. When I was really young I discovered that if I put pressure on both my eyes for a while, I would begin to see swirling ring-like patterns begin to form. The longer you hold it the more intense it gets. I realized that it was probably bad for my eyes so I stopped. Retrospectively, this was my first psychedelic experience :)
 
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Yeah, I did that too, all the time. I also used to look at bright objects like the sun and then follow the dark spots around the room.
 
I definitely have HPPD but i was asking for it. countless trips, countless. For some reason sobriety seems to bring the HPPD to the surface, or maybe I just notice it more because I'm like wow I'm not on drugs why am I seeing this? The phenomena usually consists of drifting/suggestion of movement from objects, sometimes warping and a vague neon/ flashing sensation. I also get a lot of CEV's when I'm trying to sleep, and i can tell they're form hallucinogens because they're usually neon flashing geometry. Sometimes when I look at intense black and white stripes or similar designs on objects I can get some pretty crazy visuals going. Such an odd phenomena. It doesn't bother me that much really.
 
yea, from long us eof ketamine, and the christmas-new year's lucy , shrooms, 2cb...
 
I used to think I had HPPD, but as soon as I stopped tripping every week (2x a week) and smoking weed every day, it stopped. I used to see trails, glowing energy blobs, white walls don't look white they look like a combination of all colors, paranoia, anxiety, that kind of stuff.

1) How many times have you tripped?
I've probably eaten mushrooms around 50 times, LSD around 75-100 times, mescaline (san pedro) around 15 times and MDMA/ecstasy ~100 times, DMT 4 or 5 times, DXM once, 2-cb once, random MDA trips (from 'ecstasy') Ketamine around 10 times.

2) Did you experience HPPD after a bad trip?
No. I'd experience HPPD regardless if I perceived the trip to be good or bad. The only HPPD effect that was more pronounced after a 'bad' trip was anxiety/thinking I had gone insane for 2-3 days. I literally thought that I had gone schizo for around 48 hours, I thought I was seeing people who were really there (fight club style). Thank God that eventually my friends convinced me that the 'make believe' person I thought was a figment of my imagination was indeed a real person. It's funny looking back on it, but I was completely scared out of my mind that I permanently lost it.

3) On which substances did HPPD become apparent?
CANNABIS! I put it in caps because IMO cannabis is the single most contributing factor in my HPPD. Within the past several months I can eat acid and feel absolutely no HPPD effects however if I eat acid and smoke weed the following days/weeks I will get visuals and paranoia.
 
After almost a full year of acid and shroom use, still no signs of HPPD.

But ive never had a bad trip either.
 
I fully agree that cannabis can be a major contributor to HPPD. I believe it exacerbates HPPD a lot. If your HPPD bugs you, stop smoking herb and see if it stops.

I've never had a 'flashback' and I don't think I have HPPD.
 
I would like to see how many people that use psychedelic drugs have HPPD, or Hallucinogen Persisting Perception Disorder. More information can be found here.

If you believe you do have HPPD, please answer:

1) How many times have you tripped?
2) Did you experience HPPD after a bad trip?
3) On which substances did HPPD become apparent?

1 - I lost count, but I tripped quite frequently from 2006 - summer 2008. In that two year time period I did end up abusing psychedelics, mainly RCs, tripping 3 to 4 times a week for a good chunk of that time.

2 - I did not have very many bad trips at all. I think, in all of my time tripping, I have had just two bad trips, and I cannot remember if I had any symptoms of HPPD at that time.

3 - I did not notice anything at all until after I had stopped tripping and using drugs really. There are mild halos around most light sources, static/snow in dark rooms without light, and there are always noticeable trails for any moving object. Even if I wag my pointer finger back and forth slowly I can still see trails. This does not interfere with my day-to-day life. I sometimes also experience after-images, as though I had been staring at a black silhouette on a white wall for 30 seconds and then looked away. These after-images occur if I am focusing on something for even just a few seconds with a solid color background and I look away.
 
I don't have HPPD, but here you go:

1) How many times have you tripped? about 60 times on acid and once on shrooms.

2) Did you experience HPPD after a bad trip? never had a bad trip

3) On which substances did HPPD become apparent? whatever persistant visuals I get I assume to be from acid n maybe mdma (only rolled 7 times so far tho).


I will sometimes zone out and feel a bit like I'm in a trance..if I focus on typed print, it sometimes appears to move.

Smoking bud reactivates the acid experience to a great extent. I get ego-loss and hallucinations. Music warps. I feel like I'm having an epiphany. Sometimes (rarely tho) I get this really amazing visual..it's like a cascade of a solid color (might be blue, purple, red) that runs down from above me and covers my field of vision entirely..so the room changes color.

I don't get much while sober tho. If I'm out in the sun for a while and close my eyes, I get some minor closed-eye-visuals like colorful dots, stars, or grids. I don't think this is uncommon tho.
 
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Yeah, fucking annoying to see so many people claim they've got HPPD..

I've said it before and I'll say it again, 99% of all people claiming to have HPPD do NOT have it.

So true!! I was going to post at the end of this thread but I couldn't let this go. I only got this far, so I apologise if there are pertinent comments I missed out on, but it is such a long thread and most of it was just getting me more and more irritated.

capEr and one other poster I saw early on were the only two people I met who sounded like they could have had hppd (don't know from his post whether Blowmonkey is a past sufferer or just very knowledgeable).

Get this. HPPD WILL ALWAYS INTERFERE WITH YOUR DAILY LIFE, IT IS MORE LIKE TOXIC PSYCHOSIS THAN SEEING EVERYTHING SWIRL PRETTY COLOURS!! IT IS A LIVING NIGHTMARE, AND YOU ARE TRAPPED INSIDE IT WHILE YOUR CHANGED CHARACTER IS VERY VERY OBVIOUS TO OTHERS! THERE MAY NOT BE MUCH IN THE WAY OF VISUALS AND ANYWAY YOU DON'T SEE THEM BECAUSE THE ILLNESS OVERSHADOWS ANYTHING LIKE THAT!!

I had one episode of hppd after suddenly finding I could get lsd again. "Again" being after many many years of not taking drugs at all, going back to the microdot days when nobody took "four hits of acid". It would have been pure waste, because in those days, acid was strong!

I came back to psychedelics when I discovered shrooms online and when they became illegal, found sources for lsd (there seemed to be a quick, sudden flush of it everywhere) and also discovered legal highs, in particular LU doves (the originals).

After one murderous week of abusing lsd, shrooms and LU doves with only about two days of not tripping out of 7, I had hppd and I never, never want to be in that state again. There seems absolutely nothing you can do about it except wait and hope you come out of it.

I was off work, had a blue fit when someone decided to trip in our channel on acid I'd sent them to try. I felt I had had more than enough exposure to anything tripping for a good while, and I have since felt forever guilty that I spoilt this bloke's first trip. It wasn't all my fault, as if he'd had a grain of sense he would have realised I couldn't handle the situation, but I was shocked I could even treat anyone tripping like that.

Here is a taste of my hppd later on in the week:

[21:55] <me> I'm pleased you are here
[21:55] <me> that is fine I need to really get a serious grip
[21:55] <me> 20 doves
[21:56] <me> over the last few days
[21:56] <me> things are haywire#
[21:56] <me> I am haywire
[21:56] <me> this *is* my channel yes?
[21:57] <xxx> back back
[21:57] <xxx> [you!]
[21:57] <xxx> stop drugs
[21:57] <me> yes
[21:57] <xxx> relax
[21:57] <me> I can't find doves now
[21:57] <xxx> good for you
[21:57] <me> sure I had more thaN one
[21:57] <me> still they are all gone
[21:57] <xxx> when i was taking too much drugs
[21:57] <xxx> like some years ago
[21:57] <xxx> i flushed them into the toilet
[21:57] <xxx> and then i was sober for 1 year
[21:58] <me> thanks hon
[21:58] <xxx> you should think of it
[21:58] <xxx> HDDP
[21:58] <xxx> like earlier today
[21:58] <me> do not keep saying it
[21:58] <xxx> you were TOO MUCH
[21:58] <xxx> i dont know if you remember
[21:58] <xxx> but im speaking to like friend now
[21:58] <me> xxx I haven't even thought about what anybody saud]
[21:58] <me> \
[21:58] <xxx> k
[21:58] <me> I need to drink
[21:59] <me> awwwwwwwww
[21:59] <xxx> "everday search for the fix"
[21:59] * me finally expldes with frustration
[21:59] <me> no drink now
[21:59] <me> I mean
[21:59] <me> I was off to the off license
[21:59] <xxx> i hope you dont get angry on me
[21:59] <me> bit off
[21:59] <xxx> but im just being honest
[22:00] <xxx> and i think many of us here
[22:00] <xxx> shares the same opionion like me
[22:00] <me> xxx: I know this is a fair question and that is absolutely what toask
[22:00] <me> tbh
[22:00] <me> I am too fucking spent
[22:00] <me> at this moment to feel any emotion at all anywhere any time to anyone
[22:01] <me> I haven't looked at this weird stuff too
[22:01] <me> her
[22:01] <me> herew=-
[22:01] <xxx> i dont know
[22:01] <me> od dear
[22:01] <xxx> but im a little drunk today
[22:01] <me> keyboard
[22:01] <xxx> but that doesnt make sense for me
[22:01] <me> lol that was fantastic
[22:01] <xxx> .google define toask
[22:01] <me> you need a word
[22:02] <xxx> .google define toask
[22:02] <me> that is toas hah
[22:02] <me> it yeah
[22:02] <xxx> 2 sec
[22:02] <xxx> i google it
[22:02] <me> that is so weird
[22:02] <me> the double language then just got awesome
[22:04] <me> po
[22:04] <me> oh nows
[22:04] <me> look what has happened
[22:04] <me> this is one hypocrit
[22:04] <me> ical
[22:04] <me> bits of nonsense I can't - wow fl;s
[22:04] <me> f;
[22:04] <me> flashy
[22:05] <me> my6 cup!
[22:05] <me> my cup!
[22:05] <me> my cup!
[22:05] <me> my cup xxx!
[22:05] <me> it iz turning anticlockwise
[22:05] <me> xxx
[22:05] <xxx> i can define the word
[22:05] <xxx> toask

And remember I wasn't even tripping at this point ...... though clearly had taken doves. That's hppd - and it's horrid. In the end, even your closest friends give up on you because everyone can only take so much.

I *did* eventually come out of it, slowly, about 2 or 3 weeks later. But even while I knew I was suffering, I couldn't break through that isolation and reach normality. Nowadays, I often get odd visuals if I'm tired, on some kind of legal high, had a recent trip (though I severely cut down on tripping and didn't take any hallucinogens for about 6 months following that), or just for no reason at all. That doesn't stop me leading a normal life, but anyone in the state I was above (and there were pages of logs like that) ie truly suffering hppd, can't possibly lead a normal life.
 
Do CEV's while on no substances count as HPPD? If so definately and sometimes i see blurry patterns on complete white things like walls, mostly the color blue and ya when i close my eyes i just see tons of shapes colors shifting morphing and whatever, but... I have yet to taken a halucinogen diliberately. I took mdma the other day for the first time but this has been around for much longer than that, before that all ive done is smoke weed!!! but i swear ive gotten some sketchy weed before, lots of weird stuff happened

Edit:just read about blah blah people claiming they have it. I'm not claiming anything so dont go thinking im stupid, i thought it was normal and probably is but it could be possible so i decided to respond here
 
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