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The Big & Dandy HPPD Thread

I smoke DMT almost daily, ahve been tking a psychedelic pretty much weekly for a few years. after thoughs few hours Im back to normal. I dont understand how people develope these dissorders. I wish I could I be perma fried like that, but at last it doesnt ahppen (I dontr ealyw ish to be liek that, but I think it would be cool to always ahve that DMT rainbow fabric of geometric pattern sight.)
 
fastandbulbous said:
Believe me, you don't. I had HPPD like symptoms for 6 months following my accidental IM admin of nearly 30mg of 2C-I and at best it's fuckin' annoying & at worst somewhat distressing
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why i the hell would IM 2c-i? or was it a misstake in product?

I closet Iv coem to long lastinge fects seems to be the hang over I get from candy flipping, but nothing psychedeic about it, just brain dead!

one my group memebrs says he has long lasting DMT effects and he has only smoked maybe 30 times in the last year when I introduced it to him. Hell Im smoked DMT twice tonight.

I wonder how much of these claimed simi weightful HPPD claims are just psychosemetic. meaning you are looking so you found it, even if its not tehre.
 
I've tripped several times on shrooms and acid and been fine. But I've since tripped about 7 times on 2c-e. Since that time, I get trails all the time from things I never used to before. Of course, we all get trails with something moving really fast, but now, I see it with things that move much less quickly. It's fucking annoying, but thankfully not debilitating.
 
why i the hell would IM 2c-i? or was it a misstake in product?
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It was my mistake, putting a sterile soln into an old ketamine vial, but not changing the label immediately. It was intended as an addition to ketamine (at a dose of 3-5mg) to improve recall of the ket experience. I now relabel things the moment I put something into a container (if not label it beforehand, while still empty).

When I realized what I'd done, I nearly shit myself in panic, but it just never got that deep. The visuals on the other hand were beyond belief.

Never touched 2C-I since (surprise surprise)
 
i find that as long as i keep moving my eyes and dont payattention to one thing to long i stay in this reality but as soon as i start zoning out on something it all comes back. so are you saying this is my brain looking for these things rather than symptoms of hppd?
 
not to revive an old thread, but I think I do have HPPD.

To catalogue the entire realm of entheogens that I've done;

-Psilocybin Mushrooms: 10+ times
-Lysergic Acid Diethylamide: 2 times
-2C-E: 3 times
-2C-B: 1 time

The last entheogen I've done was LSD, but I had a shitty hit so I didn't get much off of it (and I got drunk and high on the come-up, so that REALLY fucked it up, plus other variables. I was told not to eat the blotter but to suck on it for about a minute or so, and I did, then spit it out. Needless to say, a waste of $100 on 5 hits... I ate one, gave my boy two, and two of my other friends a piece each). But, the effects I've noticed since the last time I did 2C-E (March '08) was that my mind thought in severely different ways... Life seems more dull, more depressing. People seem like peasants, most not even worth uttering a breath towards. I still get tracers from time to time, and sometimes stationary flashbacks reminiscent of the times I've done acid and 2C-E. 2C-B did basically nothing for me. Mushrooms haven't brought about any of the symptoms.

Also, when I stay up real late, almost to the point of a day, I start hallucinating. It's never been like that, as I've stayed up for 3 days at a time before I started tripping with no hallucinations. Things will move closer, move back, then stop. If I'm looking at the computer screen, sometimes it will stretch vertically before resuming its normal size. Weird?
 
xcandyflipx said:
Weird?
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no. i had that, after taking lsd a few times ... and after taking it about a good dozen times for about 3 months I had a major case of it. Took many months to clear, and I worried, but I am completely free from it, and have been for 12 years+ - despite ingesting many many psychedelics since then. It seems that it just doesn't happen to me any more ... even after my acidental overdoses on 4-substituted tryptamines and 2C-B (a major overdose, I did approx. 100mg). No residual visual alteration of any kind. I think that's because my body got rid of it once, it is now immune to this set of symptoms. Seems to me there are many many different potential negative effects from overuse of these powerful mind agents -- some ways it can afect one are quite different from mere sense alteration... particularly, fluctuating (often too low) energy levels and indecisiveness, along with unstable moods . . . this is the reason why I have been taking a break. Bodies, minds, and souls need time to work through what they have gone through, to integrate it as best they can - otherwise there is obverload on some level or other, and the consequences are inevitable, on some level or other, HPPD being merely one way this may manifest itself.

If it worries you, mend your ways, avoid using as much as you have, space out your usage more, perhaps take a break even... eventually it WILL go away, i am quite sure of that. It will go away when you stop feeding it (by focusing on it and especially by eating more psychedelics as you do so, thereby stressing your system further).

love and light
one and all
 
Yes I do have HPPD. I have tripped (in order of my perceived effects it had on developing HPPD):

Once on DOB.
2 times of LSD.
Countless times on Ketamine, probably about 150 times or so in the past 2 years.
20 times on DXM.
About 14 times on Mushrooms.
Once on 2C-I.
Probably 8 times on Salvia.
Once on Diphenhydramine.

The HPPD I sort of noticed after doing DXM the first couple times, I would close my eyes and still see the image I just saw for a few seconds, this dissipated within a few days though everytime. Then I had a really bad DOB trip that caused much of the issues I consider the HPPD I live with, but LSD exacerbated it with an earth shattering night. I believe Ketamine has contributed as well, just because I've used it so much I don't think it can go unsaid that my HPPD is considerably worse for a short time after each K experience.

It was a mixture of dissociative abuse and a few bad psychedelic trips. I believe a single bad psychedelic trip can affect you about the same as dissociative abuse, but both come about equally as possibly.

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HPPD itself does not really interfere with my life, however it is a constant reminder of those bad trips, which fill me with anxiety and fuel my OCD. Generally, talking/thinking about this stuff makes it a lot worse, so seeing static entices me to think, leading to at worst, panic attacks.
 
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Izzdan said:
I see on occasion still these really bright tiny dots floating in the air ..of course they aren't there ..but kinda neat sometimes ..not sure why seeing dots is but it is ..haven't tripped in like 5 years though ..maybe it was the E ..haven't done that in 2 years ..either way was from one of the two ..
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i think this is normal....i see floaters as well as what i deem "stars" sometimes....i have tripped over a hundred times tho, so who knows? i do not have any other symptoms....
 
vortex30 said:
HPPD itself does not really interfere with my life, however it is a constant reminder of those bad trips, which fill me with anxiety and fuel my OCD. Generally, talking/thinking about this stuff makes it a lot worse, so seeing static entices me to think, leading to at worst, panic attacks.
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this is exactly how I felt when I had it back then. i got rid of it with anti-depressants at the time. . . took time, but it did go. And it didn't come back after my depression had lifted. And never came back. I like to think of HPPD as a sort of stress response to the trauma of the psychedelic experience that may have literally alienated one from one's body.... pulled one out of one's energy field and then not put us fully back inside. You might want to look into soul retrieval, shamanic technique. I have a hunch it might be helpful.
 
i have visual distortion (whitish lines that float across my vision) from SSRIs. they started soon after I started taking the meds, persisted for four years, and haven't gone away even though i've stopped SSRIs for 2 years now. i doubt that they will ever go away.
 
I think it would be less misleading to just refer to HPPD as PTSD (post-traumatic stress disorder), because that's essentially what it is, I think. Any sort of traumatic/highly stressful experience can cause similar symptoms, probably colored towards the experience that caused the stress. For example, Vietnam vets who have flashbacks to the war. With psychedelic-caused PTSD, the symptoms resemble psychedelics.
 
Xorkoth said:
I think it would be less misleading to just refer to HPPD as PTSD (post-traumatic stress disorder), because that's essentially what it is, I think. Any sort of traumatic/highly stressful experience can cause similar symptoms, probably colored towards the experience that caused the stress. For example, Vietnam vets who have flashbacks to the war. With psychedelic-caused PTSD, the symptoms resemble psychedelics.
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I agree that many HPPD symptoms can be cause by a bad trip. So very PTSD-like. But what about people that have not had bad trips and still have HPPD?
 
I've had some HPPD-like symptoms many times, they have always passed though. They have usually manifested after heavy tripping or tweaking. Blobs of light and colour floating around and such.

I believe it's just brains getting more focused on the visual input.
 
I get visual distortions!

Only experienced with Ecstasy, Marijuana, Amphetamine and 2cb/2ct7 once each and now if I stay up all night/smoke the walls crawl with static hallucinations. everything is static all the time! ahhh

many other people experience this?
 
Cyrus said:
Yes, on LSD, an 1/8 of shrooms, and having a DMT release.

A natural DMT experience.
I think thats what did it.
I had an OBE, and I think what happened is what triggered my HPPD

Theres this constant fiddling of dots rearranging themselves (hundreds of them) that surround objects, when I look at people I see auras/halos about them, I sometimes see white statues in the corners of my peripheral and when I look they are gone.

It gets scary at time, and it worsens when under stressful situations.
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Maybe that natural DMT release brought you so high combined with the mushrooms and lsd that you are now vibrating at an extremely higher than normal frequency than regular human beings.

But did something life-threatening happen to cause you to have this natural release?
 
alicat72 said:
i think this is normal....i see floaters as well as what i deem "stars" sometimes....i have tripped over a hundred times tho, so who knows? i do not have any other symptoms....
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One night I rolled on some purple whales then for some reason ingested around ~10mg 2C-E and saw stars all around me the next few hours after tripping...it was quite interesting though. :)
 
Xorkoth said:
I think it would be less misleading to just refer to HPPD as PTSD (post-traumatic stress disorder), because that's essentially what it is, I think. Any sort of traumatic/highly stressful experience can cause similar symptoms, probably colored towards the experience that caused the stress. For example, Vietnam vets who have flashbacks to the war. With psychedelic-caused PTSD, the symptoms resemble psychedelics.
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I disagree. I've never had a bad or traumatic psychedelic experience, yet my ceiling is rippling away as we speak (and I'm not on anything btw). I think the visual disturbances of HPPD are simply a biochemical side effect of psychedelics that can be completely independent from the emotional parts of the psyche.
 
I have a serious question. Sometimes I see things that look like fireflies swirling around. I notice it a lot more since I quit using all drugs. It happens the most after I weight train or after I smoke a cigarette. It's very random and happens maybe 3-10 times per week. Sometimes it's very mild and only lasts 10 seconds, but the last few times the fireflies were very bright and wouldn't go away no matter where I looked or what I focused on for a good minute or two. Does this sound familiar to anyone?
 
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