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The Big & Dandy HBWR/MGS/LSA Thread - Second Iteration

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Harvesting MG seeds.

Dorkeone said:
can someone go through a simple process of harvesting the seeds from the actual plant? it's confused me alot, so far.
thanks


Fair question. I planted a number of them (MG/Heavenly Blue) in the garden around May/June. Unfortunately it would seem that I planted them to close to each other as they've been more than shy in showing their colours. So far I've had nine (count them, 9!) flowers trumpet, shine brightly then fade. This out of 20+ vines, for goodness sake. The garden is filled with the plant...no flowers. (as a side note I did have success in extracting from the plant matter). What I've been doing is, when the flower is fading, tie a piece of string loosely round it so I can find where the seed pod will come later with ease.
All the pictures I've found on the net make them look rather noticeable compared to the rest of the plant so I believe it will be a case of just getting stuck in and stripping through the 'dead wood'.


Erowid: "Morning glory seeds are found in seed pods which form on the plant where a pollinated flower once was. These can be produced any time in the year after flowers have formed. Watch your plant and when you see a flower fall off, remember the spot where it was. Keep your eye on that spot and in a few days or weeks, you'll see a pod form. When it's mature, it can be picked and dried. Eventually it will open and release the seeds."

I can no longer find the seeds on sale in my local stores here. Only one chain seemed to stock the 'good ones' and once they ran out (read: I bought/blagged them all) no more have been forth coming, so I'm really holding out for my garden.

Out of interest, has anyone had any experience with eating/making tea/wine from the flowers of MG?
 
I'm just posting here as I've seen people mention eating 20 HBWR seeds or 20 grams of Morning Glories.

Everyone should remember that some HBWR(especially) are stronger than others, and just because you could eat 20 of your last batch doesn't mean you can handle half that many of another batch. LSA containing seeds are not a friendly psychedelic to overdose with, as you'll most likely be dealing with nausea, vasoconstriction, and cramps alongside a difficult mind trip.

For HBWR I would consider 4-9 of the best quality seeds to be a reasonable dose before the side effects outweigh any potential benefit. For some people 9 seeds could easily be too much to cope with.

I know people who could have a strong morning glory trip on around 100 seeds, so everybody please start low.
 
Morning Glory: I eat no more than 100 tops, sometimes less, 50 or so, and I've tripped hard any number of times on the seeds with different methods. HBWR: first time (6 seeds) I got nothing. I then had 25 steeped in rhum, which, as has been mentioned above, was a very bad Idea. I never felt the effects until I decided to use the toilet, stood up and promptly fell over. Then the vomiting! Gods teeth and (or) e'gads! I was in agony! Hours I spent on the bathroom floor gasping for breath...not pleasant...
 
i had a quantity of LSA crystals extracted from morning glory seeds, they were hcl.
when i tried to smoke some (just to see) the glass pipe melted before the crystals did.
when i ate them, and again when i dissolved some in water, they had a very pleasant effect, though only threshold as i didnt have much (spilled like 3/4 of solution on the carpet).
if i get more should i convert it to freebase to attempt to smoke it? or wouldnt that work?
 
Erowid LSA links

I know that Erowid has some extraction methods in their LSA vault:

Extraction of LSA (Method #1)
from Morning Glory Seeds or Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds


v.1.1. - Author Unknown
Document validity unknown

Extraction of LSA (Method #2)
from Morning Glory Seeds or Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds


v.1.1. - Author Unknown
Document validity unknown

I don't know anything about extraction recipes etc, I always grind the HWBR seeds, put them in gelcaps and swallow them. I hope some of these links can be of any help to you, I am interested in having a insufflatable version though ;) xD

Peace o/
 
^^^^^
the 2nd version was used, then a/b extraction used to obtain:

lsa1700pix.jpg


should be insufflateable, i didnt have enough to try it that way.
 
Hey all I'm going to be taking HBWR seeds legit ones from Hawaii and I was wondering if taking 5-10mg of Prochlorperazine will be fine to take with it to help with the nausea with no ill-side effects. Can anyone confirm this?
 
HBWR Tea: About a month old.. stll any good?

First off, I am well aware that we have a whole thread dedicated to LSA, but every time I ask a question like this in a huge, already existing thread like that I get little to no feedback.

So here we go.

A while back I ordered 50 HBWR seeds (Hawaiian Strain) and was just holding on to them till I felt the time was right.

About a month ago me and my homeboy were chillin' here at my house having some beers and a little bit of poppy tea. We decided to try out the HBWR seeds.

Simple preparation - I removed the outer layers of 16 seeds (for 2 doses), put em' in my coffee grinder, and put the powder in a cup. I heated some distilled water to just before boiling and poured it over the seeds. I was going to just let them sit for an hour and a half as thats what the recipe said but then me and my friend decided it was best if we didn't drink it that night due to the fact that we were pretty drunk and had been drinking pod tea as well.

So I poured the liquid (and the seed mush) into a mason jar put the lid on and stuck it up in the top of my closet. I had completely forgotten about it until now.

It looks basically the same as it did when I poured it into the jar. It looks pretty much just like iced tea (kind of an "amber-red" color). No mold or anything cause it's been tightly sealed.

Do you guys think it's safe to drink or that it would even still be active?
 
i think you'd be wasting your time if you drank it - i'm not so sure about the very hot water preparation either
 
I thought LSA was sensitive to heat and shit? It would have definitely lost some potency. I had some HBWRs, grinded them up into a powder, stuck them in a capsule....it had no effect some months later or something.
 
Awesome avatar Pretty_Diamonds. :)

Yeah, lysergic compounds are very sensitive to heat, so pouring hot (let alone boiling) water over them took care of any potency issues you might otherwise be dealing with.
 
Hey i'm planning to try morning glory seeds, but my friend says it doesn't work. he says you need to ingest like at least 200 seeds to feel the trip. how many do i need to actually feel the effects. and is it better to chew them or to crush them up and put them in a smoothie?
 
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Threshold effects of LSA can be reached with as few as 25-50 seeds, though most recreational users find it necessary to ingest between 100 and 400 seeds to reach desired effects.

With regular Morning Glory seeds you do have to eat a LOT. What you should probably look for some HBWR (Hawaiian Baby Woodrose) seeds. With these you only have to use about 5-12 seeds. Many online vendors sell them. Just do a search for "HBWR seeds" and you should have no problem finding them. Here is a link to more information on MG/HBWR:
http://www.erowid.org/plants/morning_glory/morning_glory.shtml
http://www.erowid.org/plants/hbw/hbw.shtml
 
Ok thanks guys. I thought the recipe I was using seemed a little too simple. Oh well I still have about 35 more. Next time I'll just use cold water.
 
Most good lysergic acid amines are soluble in cold water. Anyway, I will merge this in with the LSA thread, just to add to the collective knowledge.
 
I was wondering. I'm on SSRI Citalopram, have been for about 1 week and 1/2 and want to do HBWR seeds. How much would the LSA be dulled by it? I was going to do 25-30 (I've done 13 before from this same seller). I want as intense as an experience as can get. For the record I get next to no nausea from seeds, so I'm not worried about that.
 
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