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☛ Official ☚ The Big & Dandy Guide to Rectal Administration (Plugging)

NJ5227 said:
If you've ever wanted to plug while at a festival, party or club but found thats not the easiest of tasks to accomplish due to materials required to do it (or the hygenic sacrifices), I think I may have found a solution. It involves a small bit of planning ahead, or some stealthy collection practices.

Items:
1 plastic sandwich bag
gel cap
lotion
substance of choice
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Seems like it'd be easier (and way less suspicious/weird looking) to carry a lubricated condom instead. Turn it inside-out, dump the powder into the "nipple," grab the tip with three fingers, insert with the rest of the condom over your fingers and carefully use one finger to invert it inside the rectum. Could even mix a bit of water in with it once you get the technique down.
 
sorry, dont really know where else to ask this but do you guys think using PG (propylene glycol) would be an appropriate liquid to introduce to the rectum without causing any harm? Several substances I am interested in rectal administrating are not water soluble but dissolve fine in PG. My intuition says it shouldn't cause any more harm to the rectum then some of the substances I've put up there dissolved in water, but I am no expert on these matters, and I am aware PG is unsuitable for IV (otherwise i'd just walk down that road). I'm not willing to ginnie pig this so any personal experiences or an answer from somebody knowledgeable in this kind of thing would be greatly appreciated!
 
Posted in the aMT thread but this post applies here too. Can anybody share their experiences with plugging aMT freebase? How is the duration affected such as come-up, come-down, peak, and after effects. and is the body load less? Also im aware different salts have different bioavailabilities so would there be a difference in effects from dissolving the amt in acetic acid than that of Hcl acid? Xorkoth if your around I'm sure you've got all the answers ;)
 
i'd love some info on plugging mescaline analogues (doesn't seem to work) as well as amphetamines. I've switched from oral dextroamp to plugging it all the time for my ADHD and it works fucking great but sometimes i get a huge rush, other times not so much and i do evacuate the old bowels too, seems hit or miss as to whether i get a huge rush or not so i wonder if there's anything i can do to improve my technique.

how do i avoid not shitting my dose out? sometimes it burns and i just can't stop myself, other times my ass feels like a $100 after 2-3 minutes lol.

I plug pretty much every drug i can get my hands on but i'm a bit concerned about whether water enemas cause any damage and whether i am causing damage to the mucuus membranes in my ass by injecting d-amp, EPH, mephedrone, morphine or psychedelics.

AFAIK plugging aMT freebase should work just fine. I'd avoid plugging anything acidic unless you like your ass to feel like it's on fire. Typically, the body load of any drug (the negative body load anyway) is far less when plugged. I'm not experienced with plugging aMT but i've plugged plenty of psychs/stims and it's hard hitting, smoother overall, come up time very fast and only a slightly shorter duration compared to oral dosing in the majority of cases. Definitely better than insufflation.
 
I've plugged lots of shit but not aMT. In the big and dandy aMT thread I got one person telling me it increases bodyload and its twice as potent and another telling me its smoother and the dose is only reduced by 5-10 mgs so that's where the confusion comes into play but I'll find out for myself on Saturday. As far as plugging mescaline and its analogs I'm sure it's very innefective and I think I read somewhere thag the liver plays a vital role in it's effects by essentially "overloading" (enzymes are overworked and can't destroy it) thus the reason for mescaline and it's analogs requiring large doses in humans but I can't remember where I read that as it was a while back(pihkal maybe? If so I wouldn't take it as gospel). IIRC they are also all pro-drugs which raises the question as to what the metabolites of mescalines analogs are. Maybe we could synth the metabolites and not have to take hundreds of milligrams.
 
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For festival plugging you could just use one of those anal drainage bags like in hospital. It can be folded up for concealment and it comes with a long tube off the bag to up per rectum. Get into one of those porta loo's lube and insert tube. You can hold the bag above the anus allowing gravity to do the work as well as some nimble positioning, best if you have VIP access less turd and piss everywhere in those porta loo's. You can load it up like a douche. Pre-loading the bag may be an issue so you could use a cup place the tube into it use the bag as a suction then lube and insert and squeeze. Never tried it but it may be more practical than a 10 ml syringe also you could just say you have bowel problems and I'm sure most security would scamper quick with just a quick glance.

To avoid shitting out a plugged dose pre-plug with an enema. Alternatively take a shit and make sure your bowels are evacuated. Do this manually if you must, I mean your shoving a syringe full of solution and dissolved drug up there so no need to get uptight over a finger as well (use a glove to be sterile). I like to plug MXE mmmmmm......
 
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indeed the liver does play a vital role in the activity of some of the metabolites but IME not all of them. I've been plugging proscaline the last day or so and it definitely is effective but it's distinctly different than an oral dose.

#1 it burns the ass pretty good and causes pretty nasty stomach cramps (like plugging mephedrone almost exactly in terms of cramping)
#2 there's an immediate rush to the legs that makes them feel weak or some odd feeling then the usual psychedelic strangeness starts to come on.

after 5-10 minutes of dealing with the cramps i finally decide to go evacuate my poor bowels and i start to get hit by the psychedelic effects even more. It reminds me a lot of plugging mephedrone for some reason. I'd get these euphoric shits from both where i'd space off into some dream world while on the toilet and the stomach cramps slowly being alleviated was almost a transcendental experience lol.
 
So I've never plugged any substance before but I'm thinking about trying aMT this way as I've heard it's much better than the oral route. I'd really like to just put it Ina gel cap and stick it up my ass and be done with it. How effective would that be over putting the aMT into solution and injecting it up the pooper? I will be going to a party later that night and don't want to deal with any possible complications that could arise from taking a drug enema. If anyone could chime in on whether just sticking the gel cap up there is really effective?
 
Ballz_Trippington said:
So I've never plugged any substance before but I'm thinking about trying aMT this way as I've heard it's much better than the oral route. I'd really like to just put it Ina gel cap and stick it up my ass and be done with it. How effective would that be over putting the aMT into solution and injecting it up the pooper? I will be going to a party later that night and don't want to deal with any possible complications that could arise from taking a drug enema. If anyone could chime in on whether just sticking the gel cap up there is really effective?
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Well that would be viable. Once the gelcap dissolves it should release the AMT all at once which is what you want. I also used to do it this way.

BUT some people experience an extremely pressing urge to defecate when irritating chemicals enter their rectum. So you might find yourself with only seconds left to take a dump when the cap releases it's contents.

If it's a private party and there's a clean bathroom, I would just fill up a syringe at home, take it with you and administer it's contents in the bathroom. You can then linger around for 5 minutes to make sure you won't have to defecate. If it's a public place I'd use a cap, cause you should be lying down when using a syringe. Just make sure you have a chance to take a dump if worse comes to worst. Usually this isn't necessary and you don't even feel a thing.

Enjoy the cruise butt-pirate!
 
Ballz_Trippington said:
So I've never plugged any substance before but I'm thinking about trying aMT this way as I've heard it's much better than the oral route. I'd really like to just put it Ina gel cap and stick it up my ass and be done with it. How effective would that be over putting the aMT into solution and injecting it up the pooper? I will be going to a party later that night and don't want to deal with any possible complications that could arise from taking a drug enema. If anyone could chime in on whether just sticking the gel cap up there is really effective?
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It would be less effective for sure and there shouldn't be any complications if you dissolve it well in a smallish (around 3-5ml) amount of water--it won't be enough liquid to cause you to need to defecate but if it is you should know after 10-15minutes. Using a gelcap would be less effective plus when (or if) it dissolves, it's going to be an undiluted powder rubbing against your rectum which, depending on the substance, can burn, itch or even cause damage.
 
crOOk said:
Well that would be viable. Once the gelcap dissolves it should release the AMT all at once which is what you want. I also used to do it this way.

BUT some people experience an extremely pressing urge to defecate when irritating chemicals enter their rectum. So you might find yourself with only seconds left to take a dump when the cap releases it's contents.

If it's a private party and there's a clean bathroom, I would just fill up a syringe at home, take it with you and administer it's contents in the bathroom. You can then linger around for 5 minutes to make sure you won't have to defecate. If it's a public place I'd use a cap, cause you should be lying down when using a syringe. Just make sure you have a chance to take a dump if worse comes to worst. Usually this isn't necessary and you don't even feel a thing.

Enjoy the cruise butt-pirate!
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Lol!
Well, I'll be dosing 1-2 hours before even arriving at this party due to aMT's long duration. My only concern about putting it into solution was that it may make me want to deficate later on? I've never had an enema of any kind and I've never put any ammount of liquid in there so I just wanted to make sure it's not going to be a problem since I'll be doing this for the first time and then going to party with friends and strangers.
I think I will try putting it in 5ml of solution. Will I want to expell that 5ml at some point? Or is is such a small ammount of liquid that I won't feel like I have the squirts?
Thanks very much in advance! I have heard some impressive things about taking aMT this way. Although my current batch of aMT is pretty degraded. It's dark brown powder with a strong bad smell. I hope it goes into solution. It worked great orally at double the recommended dosages due to its degradation. I'm thinking about doing 40mg plugged plus probably a 4-subbed tryptamine or a 2C-X (undecided yet) once I get to the destination.
 
CaptainKratom said:
Posted in the aMT thread but this post applies here too. Can anybody share their experiences with plugging aMT freebase? How is the duration affected such as come-up, come-down, peak, and after effects. and is the body load less? Also im aware different salts have different bioavailabilities so would there be a difference in effects from dissolving the amt in acetic acid than that of Hcl acid? Xorkoth if your around I'm sure you've got all the answers ;)
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Hey, so I have done it two ways, plugging the freebase straight and converting to HCl. I have never tried converting to any other salt. I do find that the experience is a bit cleaner and nicer when you take the time to convert to HCl, but the difference is not major and about half the time I've done it, I've just plugged the freebase. When I did that, I would just put my dose in a gel cap, suck on the gel cap a bit to soften it up (but not too much or it will not maintain its shape for insertion), and then stick it in there (lotion works good). This can be easily done anywhere you have a bathroom or some privacy and a place to wash your hands which is part of the reason I did it this way.

When I would convert to HCl, it would be a more involved process. I would weigh out the dose and put it in a shot glass, add an oral syringe full of water, and then drop a single drop of hydrochloric acid in it (I used muriatic acid from the hardware store - it's pretty strong and it gives off vapors when you open the container, so be really careful to only use the 1 drop, I used 2 once and it started to burn and I had to "abort"). Stir the mixture and you can start to see the freebase clumping together and turning into clear crystals, and the dissolving. Even if it doesn't dissolve all the way it's okay. It also smells less bad afterwards. Then, pull it up into the syringe and do your thing... you'll have to lay on your front for a few minutes at least. As I said I prefer the effects this way somewhat but the difference is not very significant. Except it also comes on faster this way.
 
Ballz_Trippington said:
Lol!
Well, I'll be dosing 1-2 hours before even arriving at this party due to aMT's long duration. My only concern about putting it into solution was that it may make me want to deficate later on? I've never had an enema of any kind and I've never put any ammount of liquid in there so I just wanted to make sure it's not going to be a problem since I'll be doing this for the first time and then going to party with friends and strangers.
I think I will try putting it in 5ml of solution. Will I want to expell that 5ml at some point? Or is is such a small ammount of liquid that I won't feel like I have the squirts?
Thanks very much in advance! I have heard some impressive things about taking aMT this way. Although my current batch of aMT is pretty degraded. It's dark brown powder with a strong bad smell. I hope it goes into solution. It worked great orally at double the recommended dosages due to its degradation. I'm thinking about doing 40mg plugged plus probably a 4-subbed tryptamine or a 2C-X (undecided yet) once I get to the destination.
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So how did it go? For me personally 5ml would definitely cause an urge to defecate.

Xorkoth said:
[...]so be really careful to only use the 1 drop, I used 2 once and it started to burn and I had to "abort"
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Just let it dry and there won't be any residual HCl left. :) Now if you are in a hurry, I would personally do the math instead of using "a drop". I'll try to give you an example of how to do this.

Let's say you want to convert 100mg AMT to AMT HCl and you have 99% pure AMT and 37% HCl.
The molecular mass of AMT is 174.24 g/mol. The pKa should be around 10 or so, so we will be trying to use an equimolar amount of HCl for the conversion.
100mg / 174240mg/mol = 0.00057392mol
->We need 0.00057392mol HCl
The molar mass of HCl is 36.46 g/mol.
0.00057392mol * 36,46 g/mol = 0.021g
The density of 37% HCl is around 1.19g/ml. Since only 37% of that mass is HCl, we have 0,4403g HCl per ml of acid. Since we only need 0.021g we need:
0.021g / 0.4403g/ml = 0.0477ml
Now naturally it will be hard to draw up 1/20 of a ml into a syringe. Best way to go about this would be to put 3ml water into a glass, add 1ml of your acid. This will dilute the acid by a factor of 4, so you can use 1/5 of a ml instead.
Draw up 0.2ml, add it to your AMT. Stir. Either place the stuff on a flat dish on top of your heater, wait for the liquid to evaporate (shouldn't take long) and administer it.

I'm still surprised the HCl is kicking in faster than the freebase does, but if that's the case, this would be a good way to go about the conversion. Whether you use a little excess acid and wait for that to evaporate or you use a deficient amount and have some AMT freebase left is a matter of preference and also depends on what you intend to do with the product.
 
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I ended up having no problem getting 40mg of brown, somewhat degraded aMT into 1ml warm distilled water (I just microwaved 1ml of the water in a test tube for a few seconds) let it cool until it was warm, dumbed in the aMT and shook. It went into the distilled water totally and without any problems. Then I just put the liquid into an oral syringe.
Then I assumed "prorno position" and shot it in without feeling any of the solution at all.
It was remarkably easy and I swear I felt the first alert in like 30 seconds but that may have been placebo. Hard to say. I had a lovely trip but for some really odd reason I had bad nausea through the night which I've never had from oral aMT. Maybe it was from eating 50mg 4-aco-dmt as soon as I got to the party? But I've never got upset stomach from 4-aco anything.
I did eat sushi earlier in the evening and I'm most suspicious of that.
I will certainly be trying aMT again rectally so if I get nausea again I'll be sure and report back!
 
Xorkoth said:
Probably better to use lemon juice or vinegar in retrospect, for some reason I never tried to do that.
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No, probably not. On one hand, citrate or acetate salts might not form as easily. I have no idea. It's definitely easy to make AMT HCl from what I hear. While vinegar does evaporate, lemon juice will leave citric acid behind and that will be left in your product. Even if you do the math like I did above and measure it out correctly, there will always be too little or too much, unless you know the exact purities and have a very accurate scale. With HCl you can just use excess and let it evaporate. It's pretty fail-safe here. If the acetate salt forms easily, vinegar might be of advantage. Your rectum physiologically has an alkaline pH and imho you want to keep it that way. Having excess acid in the product OR putting a relatively strong base like AMT in there can be expected to do some amount of damage if you do it regularly (which I most definitely did).

Ballz_Trippington said:
I did eat sushi earlier in the evening and I'm most suspicious of that.
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I'm most suspicious of the sushi as well. Most people who are susceptible to that side effect of psychedelics, prefer to not eat at all for a day when they plan to trip. But keep an eye out for it during your next trials. The faster come up could definitely increase physical discomfort.
 
I never thought of letting it evaporate to obtain pure crystals without any excess HCl, good idea. I hadn't thought about disrupting rectal pH either, so that's good to know.

I was going to say, faster come-ups can cause nausea or bodyload, depending on how you handle it. I had already gotten very used to AMT when I started plugging it so for me it produced much less bodyload. But it makes the come-up faster which can easily cause body anxiety, and boxy anxiety can translate into many different physical symptoms.
 
I didn't have any nausea until about 3 hours after I dosed the aMT and shortly after eating the 4-aco-dmt. It seemed to come and go and didn't puke though at times I thought I might. I usually have an iron gut when it comes to psychedelics I almost never get sick from mescaline cactus (unless it's peyote) and never from morning glory seeds. Had to be the sushi.
 
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