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Dissociatives The Big & Dandy Eticyclidone / 2‘-Oxo-PCE Thread

Good point there guys. Tbh my lack of judgement in this is rare but definitely not something I will repeat.
I definitely need to dose higher otherwise it ravages my body for way too long. I can deal with a day or two of suffering. (We all must pay a price for hedonism?
 
psynce of sound said:
Good point there guys. Tbh my lack of judgement in this is rare but definitely not something I will repeat.
I definitely need to dose higher otherwise it ravages my body for way too long. I can deal with a day or two of suffering. (We all must pay a price for hedonism?
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Of course!!! No pain, no gain ;)
 
psynce of sound said:
Does anyone know if this substance has any active metabolites? I binged on half a gram of this a few days ago and I can still feel it now. I feel dissociated and dizzy as well as extremely lethargic. I can't stop sleeping.

Is there any way to encourage it to get out of my system sooner?
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Some coffee to encourage peeing and give some energy, lots of water and sleep.

Have you felt any bladder/kidney strain like other people reported?
 
I went clubbing last night on it (Plus 2 tabs of good LSD). I found it easy to bump and I was social. Going about 10mg lines each time out of a little vial.

The visuals and ability to move, but with "k feel". It's cheaper than k in my area, so there is no question on choice until some negative effect shows up.

I actually found the holding my bladder kind of useful. I could feel strain but not bad. This morning there is very minor pain.

(I'm not a normal club kid, those days are behind me. It was one hell of a time though)
 
StMorningGlory said:
I went clubbing last night on it (Plus 2 tabs of good LSD). I found it easy to bump and I was social. Going about 10mg lines each time out of a little vial.

The visuals and ability to move, but with "k feel". It's cheaper than k in my area, so there is no question on choice until some negative effect shows up.

I actually found the holding my bladder kind of useful. I could feel strain but not bad. This morning there is very minor pain.

(I'm not a normal club kid, those days are behind me. It was one hell of a time though)
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How is snorting compared to oral in effects? Also, it's easily snortable like MXE or does it burn/hurts?

My raver days also finished some years ago, but you reminded me I had a fucking awesome time mosh-piting to live ska high on 15mg o-PCE, weed and beer a few weeks ago. I haven't got such a good time since so many years! :)

About the bladder negative effects, I also find hard to pee on this one compared to 3-MeO-PCP (I find it easy on that one) but not at all annoying. It was worse with K or MXE
 
I saw someone else call it "psychedelic cocaine". I think that's an apt comparison for the nasal dosing. It reminds me more of pepper than a burn. Just a sneeze reaction that's hard to catch.

I am enjoying these few new RC's to hit the market. I wasn't into others as first but this, ALD-52, 1P and 3-meo-pce seem to be winners.
 
I gave it a go last week for the first time, didn't much care for it. Used about 50mg over the course of the night (oral and rectal ROA), it's lucid at the low doses like people say and doesn't seem particularly euphoric. I got a splitting headache about halfway through the experience that lasted for like 3 days and I feel really turned off by it now. Especially considering it just didn't seem particularly "good" in any regard.

For me: MXE>ketamine>ephenidine>3-MeO-PCP>DXM>deschloroketamine>diphenidine>O-PCE

I guess one trial isn't enough to thoroughly judge a compound, but it speaks for how thoroughly unimpressed I was by the experience. My friend who was with me has some dissociative tolerance (though not as much as me) plugged 20mg in one go and holed for 2 hours, he came out of it scared shitless and said he would never try it again. I'm looking forward to trying 3-MeO-PCE, but thus far I'm convinced nothing will come remotely close to MXE for my purposes.
 
I almost feel like there is a split between the classic diss' and the new ones.

These newer ones are specific to what you are looking for. Some drop you in holes (MXE, D/Ephenidine). Some are essentiallly new types of stimulants (O-PCE). Some are more euphoriants (3-meo-pce). Some are something new.... I still don't know what it is but I feel like the experiences of Iboga and MXP are similar. (*Wild speculation is the 5HT3 changes* but that doesn't mean anything)

It's like they dissected MXE and Ketamine and said these are the type of things people are chasing and separated them. Just a random thought.
 
Strange that so many of you consider this one stimulant. I consider it relaxing, really dissociative and easy to hole. 3-MeO-PCP is stimulant. This one is just long-lived.

I consider this one the dissociative part of MXE, while 3-MeO-PCP would be the stimulating one. A combo of both in correct dosages is insanely blissful, and I prefer it over MXE for sure!
 
StMorningGlory said:
The route changes it completely. What ways have you tried it MSK?
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Just after posting I thought about yourself and told myself: "Maybe this people are snorting it like StMorningGlory, who talked about psychedelic cocaine?"

I just use oral now. I know that the snorting route ends with daily use and heavy binges, at least with me, and the effects are usually more stimulating. Since China made me withdraw from MXE, I enjoy my oral doses of PCP analogues more than any common experience I would have with MXE, and my nose is clean as a whistle!!!

But I'll for sure try the snorted route the next time I party! But maybe with 3-MeO-PCP first, as it's already perfect orally for going out and socializing. I loved so much my oral o-PCE+cannabis&beer-holes (Like the first holes of ketamine or MXE that I don't have anymore since two years because of tolerance!) that I don't want them to end!

But for sure I'll try, the psychonaut that lives on me is asking for experimentation ^^
 
I felt really speedy the one time I snorted this. Oral and plugged both seem really sedating. Much more so than 3 meo pcp.
 
yepyepwoah said:
I felt really speedy the one time I snorted this. Oral and plugged both seem really sedating. Much more so than 3 meo pcp.
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Couldn't resist after reading all this, and snorted 15 mg of o-PCE an hour ago. So far like a low dose of oral o-PCE plus amphetamine. I prefer it oral, but I see the potencial for parties and raves on snorting ^^

I would say potency of snorting is half than oral route, maybe. 15mg snorted really feel like 5mg oral or so.
 
Yes, it really is. I tried sublingual and was yet suprised, that potency and time till the first effects were somehow equally. And I was even more suprised, as I just ate it. First effects after 25min and really strong effects. That's the reason for my first experience with it, which was very intense. I thought i can lick the zip-bag out after putting the whole substance in a glass with cap. ~ 10-15mg oral more on top of my 15mg nasal should not do that much, i thought. Well, i was wrong :D
 
I consumed 2 doses of 5mg "2'oxo-pce" via nasal ROA everyday for the past 3 days. The title of "psychedelic cocaine" kind of matches my experience. I felt mood lifted, had a kind of lucid headspace but was still focused and felt socialized. I noticed a slight opioid activity with this one, which was drastically boosted by some codeine.I started with 5mg each day and redosed like 2-4 hours later, which lengthened my current state and kind of pushed the dissociation further. I have not tried more than 10mg a day yet and I am wondering if I will dose any higher in the near futuer. I did not notice any bad side effects yet, but I will stop my testing at this point as I am worried about bladder issues and that antibiotic story going around. I am going to advise everyone to NOT use this on a daily basis right now, and keep in mind that this one is very potent. I felt slight motor impairment at only 5mg! Play it safe.

Regards,

UA
 
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I myself didn't enjoyed snorted route really. This one is a beast I'll keep tamed, and will only let it go wild with my mind orally those days I want to chase the paralel universes or when I feel I need to search the meaning of life.

3-MeO-PCP as refresher of the soul, orally, once a week. 2-oxo-PCE once monthly for knowing myself better, and digg into the core of the whole existence. I love 2016. Rest in peace, 3-MeO-2-oxo-PCE, I won't forget you... But I've got two girlfriends now, and they are better than you for my life
 
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MSK said:
I myself didn't enjoyed snorted route really. This one is a beast I'll keep tamed, and will only let it go wild with my mind orally those days I want to chase the paralel universes or when I feel I need to search the meaning of life.

3-MeO-PCP as refresher of the soul, orally, once a week. 2-oxo-PCE once monthly for knowing myself better, and digg into the core of the whole existence. I love 2016. Rest in peace, 3-MeO-2-oxo-PCE, I won't forget you... But I've got two girlfriends now, and they are better than you for my life
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I haven't tried oral yet. I will stay at the dose i took nasally and take the oral way next time i do some testing.
 
I truly believe that the nasal route is just a fast onset and a glimpse of the effect. When I tried it orally, I would say MSK has a better description regularly. I come from an area where a gram of Eticyclidone and Ketamine are equally priced. If I'm going out to a club, I feel the choice is obvious because of a price/hit ratio. Also the not having ketamine covering my nasal passage (we have shards here) is a huge bonus. Like I said those days are mainly behind me but I still have friends that go out and I could see this being thier D.O.C. instead.

That is also because they, as well as myself are looking for weaker effect in that setting. The oral dose, in my opinion, is better reserved for at my cabin when I can howl like a wolf because I saw the "moon twitch". (True story, it was pretty funny) I feel that the loss of mxe was big but to me, it was a nessecity. MXE had more spectrum potentials. Eticyclidone and the xx-Phenidines are much focused in what they try to achieve. MXE is like the college dean, each of these "babies" (3-meo-pcp/pce, 4-meo-pcp, eticyclidone, desclK or however you spell it... ect) are just teachers or friends.

Eticyclidone is like the guy who is really shallow at parties and super fun, but when it's just you and him stepping out for a smoke break, he tells you that your life is a lie and reveals all these secrets about you. Someone not to spend too much time with but enjoy it while it lasts.

I hope that didn't become confusing, but it seems as we are explorers in such new realms that we are able to give an
anthropomorphic viewpoint applied to help speak of what the variations there are.
 
StMorningGlory said:
I truly believe that the nasal route is just a fast onset and a glimpse of the effect. When I tried it orally, I would say MSK has a better description regularly. I come from an area where a gram of Eticyclidone and Ketamine are equally priced. If I'm going out to a club, I feel the choice is obvious because of a price/hit ratio. Also the not having ketamine covering my nasal passage (we have shards here) is a huge bonus. Like I said those days are mainly behind me but I still have friends that go out and I could see this being thier D.O.C. instead.

That is also because they, as well as myself are looking for weaker effect in that setting. The oral dose, in my opinion, is better reserved for at my cabin when I can howl like a wolf because I saw the "moon twitch". (True story, it was pretty funny) I feel that the loss of mxe was big but to me, it was a nessecity. MXE had more spectrum potentials. Eticyclidone and the xx-Phenidines are much focused in what they try to achieve. MXE is like the college dean, each of these "babies" (3-meo-pcp/pce, 4-meo-pcp, eticyclidone, desclK or however you spell it... ect) are just teachers or friends.

Eticyclidone is like the guy who is really shallow at parties and super fun, but when it's just you and him stepping out for a smoke break, he tells you that your life is a lie and reveals all these secrets about you. Someone not to spend too much time with but enjoy it while it lasts.

I hope that didn't become confusing, but it seems as we are explorers in such new realms that we are able to give an
anthropomorphic viewpoint applied to help speak of what the variations there are.
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I feel you, trying to explain the feeling of this drug with words is just imposible, and we're doomed to try to do it with subjective analogies and poetic shit that for sure is only true and valid for ourselves ^^ Amazing mind-bending, life-changing stuff.

I'm also with you on that MXE feels like beeing the all-things-in of dissociatives, the full stack, and those new ones beeing like little bits of the dissocitiave realm on their own (If I interpreted yourself like I was suposed to :P)

I see the versatility of snorted MXE both for going on 3-MeO-PCP-like or 2-OxO-PCE-like journeys if you want, beeing pleasent on whatever ROA or use you want for it, compared, snorted 2-OxO-PCE really lacks something for beeing the queen of the party on recreative settings.
 
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