I got a chance to try eth-lad with 130mg mdma. I took 3/4 tab of 150mcg eth-lad due to the synergy iwas expecting so took a slightly lower dose, I expected the eth-lad 150mcg to be much stronger than my last trip which was 125mcg lsd, but the eth-lad (bout 112mcg) was very manageable. The visuals when I closed my eyes were equivalent to maybe 250mcg lsd in intensity, they were so intense that I was shocked into opening my eyes because I’ve only had such visuals accompanied by a serious mindfuck. There was little mind fuck with the eth-lad. Next time I will take the full 150mcg and by itself to properly judge it's effects, but from what I’ve experienced I’d say the visuals and basically all the bells and whistles are definitely stronger than lsd, probably would require 200-250mcg lsd to get equivalent visuals, but the mindtrip is the opposite, I’d say 112mch eth-lad had a mindtrip intensity of maybe 100mcg lsd.
It's definitely much friendlier and much easier to handle. LSD has ALWAYS been my fav, at least until I tried al-lad, I thought that had the potential to either become my fav or at least close to it but felt it needed more testing to determine, but with eth-lad I think I only need one more trip at 150mcg on its own, no combo this time, and I think it may replace lsd as my fav or at the very least equal it except serve a different purpose than LSD and would be interchangeable with LSD depending on what I was looking for from the trip. It had none of that stimulation of lsd, none of those electric shivers that run down your spine that cid does, not forceful in anyway and didn't push you anywhere you didn’t wanna go mentally.
We spent some of the time watching tripped out moves, and some of the time laying in the grass on my summer farm house staring at the stars and trees and enjoying the visuals. Very pleasant. Took about 1hr to start feeling and 2hrs to be actually tripping proper. Peak at about 3-4hr, it lasts maybe from the 4hr mark to the 7/8th hr2 hrs. last than lsd, 8-10hrs to full baseline from dropping instead of 10-12hrs. Another difference is that with lsd after the peak you got several hours of this weird semi tripping state where you’re not really tripping anymore but still have effects and at that point you just want it to end already as your drained mentally and physically. With eth-lad it felt like the peak started coming down about the same time an acid peak would about 6-7hrs after dropping, but the main difference is that you don't have that semi-trip state, instead you go from peak to baseline smoothly and in just the right speed and amount of time, so basically the actual trip and peak is just as long as lsd, except that you cut out the last few hours that lsd has of a comedown and proceed straight to not tripping.
I didn't feel remotely as mentally drained as I do after an lsd trip and feel asleep with little problem which was a godsend, sleeping after acid can be difficult. All and all I loved it, while I’ve tripped on dozens of different substances from lsa to full breakthrough DMT, I've done a lot more solo trips than social as I used it to explore my mind and work shit out and for a while would dose (an estimate as had no idea of the dosage) 250-350mcg lsd which was perfect and handled with ease. These days I doubt I would take such a large dose of lsd, and if I did only as a solo trip, that’s way too much form asocial setting. Eth-lad on the other hand I feel like I would be able to take 250mics without much difficulty, it truly is so gentle and manageable, and it’s hard to really describe what I mean by that. Like lsd will set your mind on a certain track and will bring to the forefront certain thoughts, fears, desires, etc.,, and they'll be in your face (head) and you have no choice but to face them, with eth-lad that doesn’t really happen, instead you yourself decide what thoughts and mind fantasies/trips you wanna pursue, I believe this substance has a much lower probability of a bad trip If 1 was almost zero possibility of bad trip and 10 is a guaranteed hell where mdma would be a 2, salvia a fuckin 10, I’d rate lsd a 7 and eth-lad a 5 (Dmt either a -10 or a +10 or more than likely fucking both .) Very subjective of course and personally I’ve never had a "bad trip" per se, just bad moments during trips, one being when I tool 17tabs of cid on my 17th bday cause I read somewhere that after about 1mg of lsd you reach "peak trip" and can’t trip harder taking more only extends it.
Compared to al-lad I enjoyed the fact that it lasts a good amount less than lsd, at full baseline by 7hrs so almost half the duration of cid, I liked that because as i mentioned earlier LSD has that semi-trip state at the end that i just don't like at all which makes the trip duration feel a little too long, so the shorter al-lad duration was just perfect, but now that I've tried eth-lad and it doesn't have that semitrip state my thoughts have changed and i enjoy the longer duration of eth vs al, that prolonged comedown of LSD is it's main negative to me, anyways I was expecting al-lad to be all the pro's none of the cons of lsd, but found that to be not true. While pleasant it was a little stronger than I expected t 150mcg, it also possessed a slight anxiety element, maybe it was stimulation from it, and it did have moments where I felt like I just had to take a "break" from the trip. You know where you need to change what you’re doing the set/setting, maybe go for walk smoke a cigarette just to drop a bit off from the intensity of the peak and I noticed it was quiet difficult to do with al-lad, that was my main negative about al-lad, on the other hand eth-lad was everything I expected al-lad to be from what I’ve read about it.
I love visuals and the cev's it provided were unbelievable, oev’s where there too, but this shone in cev's. I saw shades of purple/violet that I don't really remembering seeing at least in a long time on other trips. Id rate eth-lad as one of the best cev psychedelics, at the right dose I can see it giving 2-ct-7 a run for its money when it comes to cev's, but 2-ct-7 is still the most visual trip I’ve ever had especially in oev’s. (Not counting Dmt, that’s not visuals, that’s visions). Lsd has stronger oev's than eth-lad though. I'll follow up with another report on 150mcg eth-lad to better explain the other aspects of the trip, the real deep psychological, spiritual, and mindfuck aspects of it as I feel the mdma made that inaccessible to me.
As much as I love the visuals, it's the head-trip that truly is the most important aspect and that I can't really judge just yet. I did get the feeling that on a solo introspective trip this substance would lend itself very well to allowing you to delve deep into you psyche and explore what’s under the curtain you normally don’t see. I believe it can give you life changing revelations and realizations of the same magnitude as lsd, but with the bonus of allowing you to choose what you wanna focus on and what you wanna see for the first time, what facet of reality do you wanna explore that you haven't explored yet, instead of having random reality shattering ponderings forced upon you randomly like lsd does, even though sometimes you strike gold and are shown something truly amazing so that’s not really a negative of LSD, but it’s something that takes experience to deal with and can be difficult.
Well that’s my experience with eth-lad and as how it compare to al-lad and lsd. If anyone wants to chime in in agreement or disagreement with anything please do, I find that when it comes to psychedelics it’s just so hard to vocalize the experience that having others tell it from their perspective makes it easier for you to put into word what you experienced as well as it also helps you better understand what your experience was like.
PS- I've decided to leave out the effects of the combo with mdma, it was molly of decent quality, but not as good as I'm accustomed to taking as it was from a new/different source so it's hard to really specify it's effects on the trip. It it was the molly I'm used to taking then i'd be able to much easier differentiate how it affected the trip. If anyone is really interested I guess I can write a post focusing on how the combo/candyflip is instead of just writing about the eth-lad.