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Lysergamides The Big & Dandy ETH-LAD Thread

Mr.Grateful said:
(i miss the lsd giggles).
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Heh, just wait till you hit that magical ~200 µg threshold.

When I was peaking on 225 µg of 1P-ETH-LAD, I got stuck in this thought loop 8( watching this video on YouTube:
[video]https://youtu.be/qO7aFRO5WMw[/video]

I remember how I kept laughing my ass off, and thinking to myself that I should probably copy and paste the URL and write a "will" stating that if I didn't survive the trip, my only wish was that someone watch this video and tell me what the fuck it was about at my wake =D
 
Hodor said:
Heh, just wait till you hit that magical ~200 µg threshold.

When I was peaking on 225 µg of 1P-ETH-LAD, I got stuck in this thought loop 8( watching this video on YouTube:
[video]https://youtu.be/qO7aFRO5WMw[/video]

I remember how I kept laughing my ass off, and thinking to myself that I should probably copy and paste the URL and write a "will" stating that if I didn't survive the trip, my only wish was that someone watch this video and tell me what the fuck it was about at my wake =D
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Haha sounds funny and strange at the same time. The Video doesn't really seem to be funny when i'm sober :))

Tell me more about your 200ug experience. How was the headspace? Did you smoke weed with it? Did you loose yourself or was it a clear experience?

Peace
 
Mr.Grateful said:
And what's the difference between eth-lad and 1p-eth-lad?
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On the previous page there was a similar question, here's my experience:

omerobert said:
No, they're not the same substance, just like 1P-LSD and LSD aren't identical. Though opinions and experiences differ, I've found 1P-LSD and LSD to be almost identical in effect. I've also tried both ETH-LAD and 1P-ETH-LAD once in a similar setting and identical doses, and the 1P version seemed to be a bit less potent, otherwise it was hard to tell a difference.
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Hey omerobert - how would you compare the potency of 1P-LSD to 1P-ETH-LAD?

It seems like ETH-LAD is probably a bit more potent than LSD, especially at the 300-400ug end of the dosage curve, but it's hard to say for sure because it's so rare to know the actual dosage on LSD blotter/liquid. However with 1P-LSD and 1P-ETH-LAD we have fairly reliable dosages, so they might be a good proxy in answering this question of the potency of LSD vs ETH-LAD.
 
I think that's still hard to say, since I found the effects differ a lot. Also, I generally don't dose to high, went only op to 150 ug of both 1P-ETH-LAD and ETH-LAD, and up to 200 ug with 1P-LSD, 250 with regular LSD, although, like you said, of these amounts one can never be too sure.

But looking at ETH-LAD and 1P-LSD, I found ETH-LAD to be way more intense that the 1P-LSD on 150 ug, whilst 1P-ETH-LAD on that same dosage felt much weaker (around 100 ug 1P-LSD, if I have to compare). But then again, I have quite some experience with (1P-)LSD and was quite overwhelmed by the ETH-LAD effects.

So to answer your question: I'd say that LSD is more potent than 1P-LSD, and ETH-LAD is more potent than 1P-ETH-LAD, whilst ETH-LAD to be more potent than LSD. Therefore I think 1P-ETH-LAD to be slightly more potent than 1P-LSD (in my experience).
 
Does anyone have experience with Eth-lad and Thc? I love smoking weed but sometimes it can get weird while tripping and since Eth-lad doesn't have a stong mindfuck (i took 100ug) I'm curious how smoking weed would effect the trip. I'm sure that the visuals will increase but I'm worrying about the mindfuck, which I don't like. Peace
 
it definitely enhances;
this last month I have been enjoying a vape with blond hash after the peak - very nice.

I think it is welcome in all cases except when you have developed some sense of discomfort, or tension.

Cannabis will exaggerate any discomfort or shivering, and shake your confidence if you are close to the edge or starting to go.

Mellow it is not when you are jacked to your limit. At that point Cannabis is a land mine.
 
pupnik said:
it definitely enhances;
this last month I have been enjoying a vape with blond hash after the peak - very nice.

I think it is welcome in all cases except when you have developed some sense of discomfort, or tension.

Cannabis will exaggerate any discomfort or shivering, and shake your confidence if you are close to the edge or starting to go.

Mellow it is not when you are jacked to your limit. At that point Cannabis is a land mine.
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Thx. Yep, sounds logical. Thc is definitely a booster when it comes to psychedelics. I'll take it slow and see where it takes me. Peace
 
I think it's a great combination. I'm not even a big fan of weed because it often gives me anxiety, but I have really enjoyed combining it with ETH-LAD. The ETH-LAD keeps me from feeling any of the negative feelings I normally experience with weed, and the weed really adds to the trip. ETH-LAD by itself is a bit too clear headed for me.
 
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cj187 said:
I think it's a great combination. I'm not even a big fan of weed because it often gives me anxiety, but I have really enjoyed combining it with ETH-LAD. The ETH-LAD keeps me from feeling any of the negative feelings I normally experience with weed, and the weed really adds to the trip. ETH-LAD by itself is a bit too clear headed for me.
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It's really a good combination, i can say that now. Took 50ug and startet smoking slowly around 2 hours later. Music is really good now :))

And this stuff is making me horny as hell lol..
 
Mr.Grateful said:
Tell me more about your 200ug experience. How was the headspace? Did you smoke weed with it? Did you loose yourself or was it a clear experience?
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Based on my impressions, the LSD headspace is one with a lot of abstract thought going on, extensive pondering, experimenting with language ("Psychedelicity. Psychedelascticity. Psychedelaicité"), questioning basic concepts - by comparison, the ETH-LAD headspace is *very* clearheaded up until 100µg or so; beyond 150 µg, however, you're increasingly going to run into thought loops; memories of sounds, sights and people become more vivid, more present. At 225 µg, you could say I did "lose" myself in the sense that I could barely string together a thought for more than a few seconds; there was so much pressure from the drug, it all felt so overpowering... yet also fascinating. I eventually took a benzo to get myself centered again, but I lamented to my trip notes that it represented a "waste of 5HT2A-mediated mindrape". No "ego death" though, if that's what you're asking.

Speaking of "mindrape" - that's one way you could describe the ETH-LAD-"mindfuck". Well, not really mind-"rape" per se - more like some sort of intense BDSM roleplay scenario; LSD itself, OTOH, mindfucks you in some kinky fetish way that you never knew you were into.

And no, I've never smoked weed (only had edibles in Amsterdam like 3 times), although a substance that is relaxing and which enhances the effects of psychedelics sounds pretty intriguing. Unfortunately, I was always more partial to the convenience and efficacy of benzos as my downer of choice. Benzos significantly tend to diminish the visuals, although I found that the symbolism of the mere act of taking the pill may allow you to take control of your trip even before the benzo actually kicks in.
 
Personally I always have some weed with a psychedelic. The timing is the key though: I would not partake of weed on the come up of any substance in which I am not experienced for example. Even for substances where I am experienced I will generally wait until I know that I am close to peaking as every trip is different. The exception is what I would consider to be the safer substances (and I use that term only for myself, othere will have different views) such as metocin and miprocin. With something like eth-lad the variability between trips and the length is too great to know exactly how it will pan out, so safer to wait until I know I have peaked (generally using a stopwatch on my phone).
For something like metocin I know that after 4-5 hours I will be on the way down anyway so I am prepared to take the risk by taking weed after the first hour knowing that: a) I will only have a maximum of 3 hours to handle if it goes bad and b) I have xanax on hand to settle things down if need be.

I've never had to resort to option b and have only ever found that weed enhances the experience. On something like eth-lad though, I am less experienced plus it is aore powerful substance so I will wait until the 4-5 hour mark.
 
Hodor said:
Based on my impressions, the LSD headspace is one with a lot of abstract thought going on, extensive pondering, experimenting with language ("Psychedelicity. Psychedelascticity. Psychedelaicité"), questioning basic concepts - by comparison, the ETH-LAD headspace is *very* clearheaded up until 100µg or so; beyond 150 µg, however, you're increasingly going to run into thought loops; memories of sounds, sights and people become more vivid, more present. At 225 µg, you could say I did "lose" myself in the sense that I could barely string together a thought for more than a few seconds; there was so much pressure from the drug, it all felt so overpowering... yet also fascinating. I eventually took a benzo to get myself centered again, but I lamented to my trip notes that it represented a "waste of 5HT2A-mediated mindrape". No "ego death" though, if that's what you're asking.

Speaking of "mindrape" - that's one way you could describe the ETH-LAD-"mindfuck". Well, not really mind-"rape" per se - more like some sort of intense BDSM roleplay scenario; LSD itself, OTOH, mindfucks you in some kinky fetish way that you never knew you were into.

And no, I've never smoked weed (only had edibles in Amsterdam like 3 times), although a substance that is relaxing and which enhances the effects of psychedelics sounds pretty intriguing. Unfortunately, I was always more partial to the convenience and efficacy of benzos as my downer of choice. Benzos significantly tend to diminish the visuals, although I found that the symbolism of the mere act of taking the pill may allow you to take control of your trip even before the benzo actually kicks in.
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Thx. I really like the clear headspace of Eth-lad (tried 100ug and 50ug about 2 weeks later).

Ok, so i guess I won't be going further than 100-125ug and i'll wait about 3-4 hours before smoking weed (taking it slow toke by toke) because i really don't want to get mind raped (sounds evil as hell) lol. On 50ug Eth-lad i smoked about 2 hours later and it was nice but that's no comparison to 100-125ug.

I know some people like it when the trip goes real deep and spaced out but that's not me. I'm not really looking for any answers or enlightenment :) The beauty of life and existence itself is enough for me. I like the euphoria and everything that comes with it. Ok, i have to say i never experienced ego death and some say that is the most beautiful feeling.

I took LSD over 10 years ago and it was sooo beautiful..never had it again. It had me laughing for an hour or so and even smoking some light hash in a bong was so nice and enhanced the experience and kicked off the visuals in a beautiful way I can't describe..pure bliss and the most incredible visuals i've ever had on a psychedelic.

I tried 1p-Lsd (100ug) and I can't comprehend how people say it's almost like real LSD. 1p gave me like 10 minutes of laughing, a lot of mindfuck (not in a negative way, i was just out here haha) and almost no visuals compared to real LSD.

And yeah i really need to get me some benzos to have that extra confidence and security :)
 
So i noticed that my nausea from eth lad is caused by increased salivation. Like a really thick viscous spit fills my mouthfor about 1 hour and a half after a dose. When i salivate like that it usually leads to me throwing up. Which is why im not tje biggest fan of eth. I dont get this effect from lsd or ald 52. I tried half a pill of musiniex and that really helped.
I have heard drugs like 2ce cause this same sensation. Any reason why eth lad doesthis?
 
Actually nausea causes increased salivation, not sure it works the other way around.

I don't think we know a reason, but it could be caused by activation of 5HT3 receptors (This receptor is present on the vagal nerve and also in the central vomiting system) and/or because of increased blood pressure.
 
Eth-lad didn't give me nausea at all. Just a little body load. It's really interesting how some people are affected in a different way.
 
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