The Big & Dandy DOC Thread (Part 1)

[willkell420]

I would also like to add that I had no problem sleeping, actually it was hard to stay awake. Also no noticed pupil enlargement.

 

[VerbalTruist]

I recently experienced DOC at 2,0mg and 3,5 mg. Both were highly visual, but with little head fuck. At 3,5 the synthesia was AMAZING. I could hear and taste color, really really beautiful.

I found myself up and more active than usual, but not terribly hungry. Although it was possible to eat and stay still in bed with my eyes closed. Sleep was possible at the 18 hour point.

DOC is by far my favorite PEA. Except for maybe Mescaline.

 

[willkell420]

O.K. then should I complain to my source? I have given this to two other friends one at 2mg with 2mg 2hours later then 3mg 3 hours after that. It does something but not alot, no visuals. Only a sedated trippy feeling...

 

[Xorkoth]

I had some DOC that seemed that way. I sat on it for a few months and tried it again, and it worked. My only explanation is that DOC can be highly variable.

 

[neverstop]

so liquid measure is no means accurate? even if fully dissolved? im using amber dropper vials they have a glass dropper attached to the cap which is made of rubber for insulation and to squeeze drops out etc.

if i cant get 1 mg per drop maybe i can get 75% ? .75mg per drop with 150 counted drops of distilled water?

Ill seal it tightly and store in the fridge.

I mean MAYBE but why not just use ml rather than drops, save yourself a lot of trouble take care of any uncertainties

 

[willkell420]

I had some DOC that seemed that way. I sat on it for a few months and tried it again, and it worked. My only explanation is that DOC can be highly variable.

Were you able to sleep with no problem with doses above 5mg, this has been the case with more than one person. Today I do feel a little out of it, but more like I took a benzo... I wish I if anyone has received a batch like this in the last week or two. This stuff has not caused any pupil dilation in all three test subjects, at rather high doses for this substance(4-8mg)

 

[Xorkoth]

How long is it lasting? Or is it so weak it's hard to tell?

 

[trip.more]

I've never not felt anything under a milligram with out tolerance.I've seen a few people not feel it their first couple times but it worked in all the people I've taken it with after about their 3rd time.One person took 6mg their second time felt nothing then 2.5mg their 3rd & was completely blown away.

 

[willkell420]

I have felt spacey all day but don't know if I'm still high or if it is an after affect from some other substace. Maybe the thing about it taking a few times to work could be the case, but my friend took it twice oral and once snorted, tolerence could of played apart because first time was friday at 3mg, then saturday at 6mg. Then yesterday(tuesday) snorted 8mg...

 

[Xorkoth]

I'd say give it a while and then try again, at a higher dosage than the previous first time. If it doesn't work then, then it must be watered down or something else. But that spacey feeling all day happened the few times I got almost no effect from DOC. The first time I had DOC, I was blown away... in fact, every time I took it from that first 100mg batch was fantastic. That batch was a small collection of clear, glistening, solid crystals/ I've never seen it that nice since and it's never worked quite as well either. Although I had much less experience with psychedelics then, too.

 

[willkell420]

Another friend snorted 2mg and 2mg oral, with only slight effects. If Doc does have certain times when it doesn't work on people, like the first two or three times. Then it works later, from the same batch; could this have to do with hormones due to current lunar phases? For instance the winter solstice began yesterday and continues for a couple days. The moon is also close to full. The reason I'm asking is it almost seems like this might be 2c-c or something, but it would be dangerous to take doc at a dose anywhere near a dose for 2c-c. From what I've heard even the doses I've taken with little effects(6-8mg) can be quite scary...

 

[willkell420]

I have felt like I've been mildly tripping for the last couple days, I've been getting these really weird trails when I look away from my computer screen or t.v. The picture seems to stick in my new visual frame. So the effects do seem long lasting, but dont know if it's me or if it's watered down.

 

[e1evene1even]

Another friend snorted 2mg and 2mg oral, with only slight effects. If Doc does have certain times when it doesn't work on people, like the first two or three times. Then it works later, from the same batch; could this have to do with hormones due to current lunar phases? For instance the winter solstice began yesterday and continues for a couple days. The moon is also close to full.

Personally I think cosmic cycles can have a profound effect on cognition. If we are mostly water (about the same % as the planet itsellf, as above so below, micro/meso/macro cosm ) and the the moon effects the motions of the on the oceans tides , it can effect the ripples in our minds (surface emotions). Personally I notice that my emotions and spirituality are directly tied to the solar cycle. Around this time of year I'm at my lowest and between spring and the summer solstice I'm jumping out of my skin. Schizophrenics have been reported to exhibit elevated rates of winter and spring births.

There is a reason the winter solstice is traditionally a time for celebration, rather than the days getting, shorter, darker and colder, they start getting longer, brighter and warmer! The sun, our saviour, the light of the world, has risen from the depths, sacrificing its life (burning its fuel) as it has for billions of years so that there is eternal life on earth. Thank God! :D Blah, this stuff is pretty well common knowledge now.

As the pineal gland's (third eye) secretions of psychoactive amines (melatonin, pinoline, DMT-speculative) are modulated daily by exposure to light and larger yearly cycles, its logical it could be effected by other cycles. Its unique position isolated deep in the center of the brain could put it in a great vantage point to receive other parts of the EM spectrum like gamma rays and perhaps even emanations from the galactic core which might help explain the historical worldwide fascination with the precession of the equinox and other cosmic events.

As for DOC, my experience is quite limited, but I have a hunch the more recent powdered versions aren't quite as strong as the earlier crystalline batches for some reason.

 

[Ptah]

Reminds me of that picture in your other post, but that's probably because I often use psychedelic drugs.

 

[e1evene1even]

Remids me of that picture in your other post, but that's probably because I often use psychedelic drugs.

No doubt, I'm pr0bably strained cabbaged from all them psychedelics, heck its probably the same picture.

 

[willkell420]

Thanks e1evene1even, so are you saying that by your theory This would be a time that psychedelics might be less active, due to these cycles???

 

[willkell420]

Also, I don't know what is supposed to happen if I let an alcohols solution of doc evaporate. But I did this with 15mg dissolved in vodka, and when it dried there wasn't crystals just white powder. I understand that the doc was supposed to be ground into a powder, but after it had been dissolved and dried, shouldn't it of recrystallized???

 

[Black]

it has crystalized. DOC power is made up of tiny crystals. you could of course recrystalize powder to make beautiful large crystals, but that's not practical (or of any use) in your example.

 

[willkell420]

So dissolving it in vodka and evaporating the powder shouldn't of caused it to re-crystallize? Thanks... I would appreciate if anyone could confirm potency of any recently acquired batch of DOC for comparison..

 

[toxide]

Possible serious loss in DOC potency?

Just wondering, a sample of doc was recently aquired, to accuratly measure doses the sample was mixed with some rubbing alcohol and Listerine mouthwash, then placed onto blotter paper and dried overnight. I had snorted about 2mg(estimated) of the reminance in the bag and licked it. I then ate about a quarter sheet (4 sheets were made from 1g of doc). The only reason I did this was cuz quickly working upto 10 hits did nothing. 5 hours later I noticed I was tripping very lightly but the trip only lasted about 4 hours. The source of the sample has been exceptionally reliable in the past but several others reported taking several tabs from the same blotters and reported nothing happened.

Is this shit just blatently not doc or could the listerine have done something to it?