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The Big & Dandy DOC Thread (Part 1)

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I was gonna say, "Thanks for ALL your advice in this thread buddy! You're a great help, respect! :)" But your posts are all gone :( Where they gone & how come you're a Greeny again?

TheAzo said:
DOC, like other phenethylamines and amphetamines, is rock solid stable, and will out-live you unless you store it really recklessly. Liquid is fine for it.


And, at 500ug, it was clearly active, but definitely not enough for even a mild trip. Next time will probably go for 1.2-1.6mg.
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Yeah, I suspected you'd feel 500ug but to get things going abit I'd advise greater than 1mg for your next try. I have very low tolerance & weight nothing & 1.25 was fine for me. Proper, gentle, LONG trippings. Nice! Go up slowly though, I suspect the curve is significant with this stuff!

So it's safe to store in the usual way ie out of light & away from warmth & damp, yes? Is it safe to store as a crystal rather than in liquid?
 
I'd imagine safer because you don't have to worry a solution going bad. As long as the powder is away from light and heat it should last years, I think
 
So what would be an ideal consumable to drop this upon?
Gummy bears? at .5mg/1ml you'd have to be able to fit 1ml into each edible...
will 1ml of vodka seep into a gummy bear or similar 100% ?
 
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forbiddenisdefruit said:
I don't know why putting it on edibles wouldn't work. Honestly I would put it on something that is able to absorb rather than has a tendency to repel. Hard candy might not be ideal. Unless you plan on diluting it to .5:.1 I wouldn't put it on a hard candy (not sure if that was your plan).
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My thought was that a sugar cube would be very good at absorbing the liquid. I ran a dry run (ie no DOC) last night and a sugar cube can easily hold 0.3 mL but can't hold much more than 0.5 mL without a pool of liquid appearing. I don't really understand your repel/absorb statement and what it has to do with hard candy.

forbiddenisdefruit said:
If you got the 18mg sample like the rest of us I would dilute it in 36ml of 40% vodka. I buy the cheapest single shot that I can find. This will leave you with .5mg:1ml. For the sake of more accurate dosing I recommend this ratio. Trying to eyeball .1ml that is actually .5 sounds a little risky.
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I have a oral syringe graduated at 0.1 mL and 0.02 mL. As I want to make either 0.25 mg or 0.5 mg sugar cubes and decided that 0.2 mL is a good amount per sugar cube that leaves me with either 18 mg/ 7.2 mL or 18 mg/ 14.4 mL of whatever liquid I choose.

psyke
I don't think a gummy bear would work at all. Test and see how much liquid a gummy bear can hold, I'm willing to bet it's less than a sugar cube.
 
Psyke said:
So what would be an ideal consumable to drop this upon?
Gummy bears? at .5mg/1ml you'd have to be able to fit 1ml into each edible...
will 1ml of vodka seep into a gummy bear or similar 100% ?
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No fucking way will .5mg/ml be concentrated enough for dosing on candies.

Particularly gummy bears, which aren't very absorbent. I think when people use candies to dose acid, they put 1 drop on each candy.

Do some tests with how much liquid you can get a piece of candy to absorb.
 
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Is DOC a serotonin releaser? I am asking because I want to combine it with methoxetamine.

It certainly feels like it has some serotonin action to me. I get very buzzy and stimulated on DOC, with some rushes. I actually combined DOC with lower dose methoxetamine before with no bad consequences but this time I wanted to try a higher dose.
 
forbiddenisdefruit said:
posts come and go. i never wanted to be a permanent fixture here at BL. i talk to much about things i should be quiet about and i end up spending way too much time devoted to thinking about drugs.
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Okay I see...

But shame in my opinion to lose those posts. I know you got a ripping for being a bit "in your face" from some but I thought every word very useful :(

Hang around BL needs you! lol
 
I've been reading through the last few pages of this thread and it is surprising to see people taking such low doses. It is very good, by all means, to start out low though.

That being said, my favorite dose is around 6 mg for a solid +3. Maybe my DOC is impure, (dif source than currently going around) but I doubt it because 1 mg is also lightly active.

I had some pretty pure DOI a while ago and I needed around 10 mg. Maybe my natural tolerance is high (don't really trip very often). I find the dosages listed in Pihkal to be a bit low though.

But again, I think everyone should start low. DOC is tricky, sometimes I trip a lot harder than I expect from low doses and a lot less than I would expect on high doses. Sometimes it just seems you are chosen to have a great trip, if all that means is you are in a good tripping mood, so be it.
 
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bbx4 said:
Is DOC a serotonin releaser? I am asking because I want to combine it with methoxetamine.

It certainly feels like it has some serotonin action to me. I get very buzzy and stimulated on DOC, with some rushes. I actually combined DOC with lower dose methoxetamine before with no bad consequences but this time I wanted to try a higher dose.
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Sounds like Serotonin Syndrome is a possibility so go easy building up the dosage & keep us informed :)
 
I have solution of 3mg/ml.

Trial 1:
4 people took 3mg each, 2 people took 7mg 2c-p each.


Talking about DOC:

Trip come up slowly, full peak was already at around t+2.5h, and whole trip DIDN'T lasted 20 hours. More so around 14-16h. Peak lasted around 7h. At end, we smoked some cannabis, but I don't recommend that as it brings trip back but makes you unable to think without your head starting to hurt.(mental blockade, as we say).

I consumed 7mg 2C-P, didn't experience very much (I am naturally tolerant to 2cx family).
Others that consumed DOC said that it is really first timers friendly, (but everyone was at least experienced with one psyche). They said music sounded very from god itself, and experienced visuals, but I can't describe them. They said it wasn't really life shaking experience. They also experienced euphoria, audio distortions and some people mentioned that it was really similar to acid at some point <3.

Can't tell much more...
 
Took 1.5mg (10mg/ml solution) of DOC yesterday as my first time dosing. I was very surprised at the strength to be honest. I wasn't expecting much from this dose but after 2.5-3hrs I was having tripping quite nicely, mainly mentally with CEVS. Then maybe at T+4-6 I was listening to tool and I had some surprisingly strong (or at least new) OEVs (such as hand acting like a perfect mirror). At T+6 or 7 I suddenly got very nauseous and threw up for maybe 5 minutes. This did negatively impact the trip but not too long after it started to fade down into a positive and bliss like state were I remained until I slept at T+14.
Seems like I may be naturally sensitive to this one from reports I have read (which means my stash shall last longer!! ;))
Will try 2mg next time whenever that may be, has anyone tried taking methylone on DOC? Curious as to how that would be and thinking about trying it.
 
Congratulations on your test! Shame about the nausea & vomiting, quite surprising at that dose. I too was surprised by the longevity & strength of my 1.25mg. Looking forward to upping it slightly next time. However, I was able to eat on it, which was also a surprise given the stimulation this compound supplied.

I had a thoroughly nasty night on 4-aco-mipt a couple months ago. Felt intense nausea, a painful tummy & finally, violent diahorea! Tested the same chem at the same dosage the next night, no problems at all! Decided the first nights unpleasantness was due to a dodgy burger from Giraffe 8)

I'd have expected nausea & illness to be on the come up rather than so many hours in. Perhaps you ate something dodgy man, do you believe was it DEFINITELY the DOC that made you vom?

Oh, & I think that because Doc provides such an all-round, psychedelic & stimulant effect it might be a bit much adding M1 into the mix. If you do try this please go very,VERY easy. Far better to be disapointed in the results than have TOO much results! lol
 
The come up gave some nausea too, but faded by the 3hr point. I hadn't eaten for 10 or 11 hours before I took the DOC, maybe I was just really hungry? There was no chance I could have held any food down before the 8th hour after dosing, but when I did it was amazingly good :)

I think I will hold off on the m1 for now then, will titrate up and find a perfect dose of DOC by itself 8o
 
Yeah, the body is a bit stupid lol It makes you NAUSEAS when you're hungry, DOH! lol

Good idea RE mxing shit with Doc... Let us know how you get on hunting your happy dose, & good luck with the stomach next time %)
 
PhyllipThylamine said:
Sounds like Serotonin Syndrome is a possibility so go easy building up the dosage & keep us informed :)
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I'm pretty sure DOC does not release serotonin to a degree significant enough to cause SS, but I'm not expert.

Just got 200mg of this myself and can't wait to test it out this saturday :)
 
Had a .75 mg oral trial followed by 1 mg insufflated test. Both were very intriguing. I honestly can't shake this feeling that DOC has some sort of magic to it that I must revisit and discover. I also had the odd urge both trips to randomly add MDMA at about T+10 into the experience(each time I got this extremely real feeling that adding MDMA to this would be a very magical combination). Since this feeling was so strong throughout both trips I figure I may as well add some MDMA to a DOC adventure sometime. The only real thought is when to do it(even after using DOC, I still feel as if I couldn't give it a 100% time-line as of yet, should have paid attention to the clock a little more!). Can't wait to see the depths of DOC.
 
Took 1.5mg (10mg/ml solution) of DOC yesterday as my first time dosing.
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That's a very strong solution! Please be careful when dosing, overdose is a very real possibility when using such a concentrated solution.
 
abrad84 said:
That's a very strong solution! Please be careful when dosing, overdose is a very real possibility when using such a concentrated solution.
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Why is this? Surely if it dissolved (rather fast) completely and I have an accurate pipette to measure accurate doses? Or is h20 saturated (or close) with this solution?

Thanks
 
ayavisions said:
Why is this? Surely if it dissolved (rather fast) completely and I have an accurate pipette to measure accurate doses? Or is h20 saturated (or close) with this solution?

Thanks
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It isn't saturated at this point. If you have a pipette accurate enough to measure this then it is safe.
 
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