The Big & Dandy DMT Thread - The Fifth Symphony

[daysonatrain]

i have done lots of psychedelics alone, including smoked dmt and 20x salvia and always been fine, thats just me, i cant recommend it though, if you can find someone to watch you it probably wouldnt hurt. with dmt i kinda just fall back, with salvia i tend to wander around. havnt hurt myself yet... fingers crossed.

anyway, enjoy india, i traveled there for 4 months and it was a blast, crazy place. also, there are a couple towns (puri being one) where you can buy opium and weed at govt shops. enjoy

 

[Black]

you'll be back in an hour, dont worry, i find that the afterglow lasts till i sleep

+1
once i have slept after smoking dmt i'm completely back to normal

Okey. So, can I smoke it alone or do I need somebody to watch me? Is it even possible to move around on this trip?

completely cose dependent. with dmt you can have a light experience comparable to cannabis in intensity or a trip closely resembling acid or shrooms in effects (and your abilities while on it) or a crazy trip through hyperspace where you can't move and don't even notice your surroundings. that all just depends on how much you smoke, so it's up to you.

have a nice trip to india!

 

[Solipsis]

How much, in your personal experience, is true of the instant tolerance of about an hour?

 

[Delsyd]

^not true.

You can have consecutive breakthroughs every 15-20 minutes. I've seen L*L do this and a few others.
I usually wait 30min to an hour (though these days more like months) between trips.
The tolerance seems to drop pretty quickly with dmt.

 

[Iodjini_dk]

Do you guys have experience with using a vaporizer for smoking DMT? Like the ones used for cannabis where you fill up a bag with the vapor/smoke and then inhale it?

 

[psykap]

I have question to users.
DMT strong influence on the heart?
I take a beta blockers ( propranolol ) I have also tendention to Panic Disorder.
My question.
Can i get DMT with beta beta blocker ?
I taken propranolol with 2C-x, DOx and tryptamines and I dont have any trouble.
DMT most increase a blood pleasure that true?
Please help me

 

[Solipsis]

It's true that DMT causes a very fast increase in heart rate and blood pressure and is not to be used in people with heart problems. The effects are much more acute while drugs like stimulants have a more stretched out effect on the heart. Whatever you do don't combine DMT with stimulant-like drugs, including 2C-X and DOX if you have heart issues since that can be dangerous.
DMT is unlikely to have interactions with beta blockers but it's not responsible to take if that's what you're asking.
Be very careful. If you have an affinity for panic attacks you are really asking for problems this way.


By the way I have heard that you shouldn't or can't reuse naphtha more than 3 times, I guess because it can get saturated with stuff that dissolves in it? So there you go.

This thread will be closed since it is answered but I will copy the stuff about extraction to the DMT extraction Thread and psykaps question to the DMT Thread.
If you have any more questions, these are the two specially designated threads to continue.

 

[psykap]

I dont have problems with heart and blood preasure .
I take propranolol only when I use psychedelic .
When I'am sober i dont have problem with him.
its difficult because it happens only when im on psychodelics .( not always)
(beta blockers help me, because im feeling better and safer)
Thanks for a help.

 

[Vine of Sodom]

One time I smoked a nice bowl of dmt and my heart rate rocketed to intense numbers. Luckily I was too fucked up to do anything about it %)

 

[Divine Moments]

A lot of people like to stick with the traditional route and all that stuff..


But I like extracted DMT +moclobemide as that MAOI the absolute most
Most moving experiences of my life

Oral MAOI would still amplify the DMT trip when smoked, right? If so, how long before smoking should it be taken?

 

[Ismene]

^^

Take the moclo about 45 minutes before the DMT.

I find there's a big tolerance with oral DMT tho - even taking oral DMT once a week you see a massive drop off in effect.

 

[LunarSylph]

By the way I have heard that you shouldn't or can't reuse naphtha more than 3 times, I guess because it can get saturated with stuff that dissolves in it? So there you go.

What the what?! I was being environmentally conscious and re-using the same naphtha probably a dozen times.

I have been noticing different levels of intensity depending on which pull I partook from, but perhaps that's due to naphtha weighing the later pulls down as you write?

Or the fabled "jungle DMT", or other non-polar relatively benign plant junk being present at a higher ratio.

Or perhaps due to increasing frequency of DMT use meaning less interesting breakthroughs... but now I have to wonder.

YUCK

I recall leaving my crystals airing out in an open Pyrex pan with paper towel over the top to prevent dust from getting in. I left them like that for a good week to be sure the naphtha would evaporate dutifully. That's not a solvent I had any interest in letting into my system.

A pity if even those precautions are insufficient.

Your opinion? Or advice for how else to desaturate the crystals? The loss one would get from an ethanol wash taxes one's mind... Although I'd rather just believe naphtha evaporates correctly regardless of saturation, and this is all just someone's intoxicated hypothesis.

 

[Feste]

Anyone know how long you could store dmt for?

I know the basic idea is to keep chems away from heat/light/moisture - but say if you kept it in a baggie or tinfoil would it keep in a drawer for a few months or more?

 

[adrian89987]

Oral MAOI would still amplify the DMT trip when smoked, right? If so, how long before smoking should it be taken?

it amplifys and extends the duration of the smoked trip yes, but yea as Ismene said...45 minutes before hand will work well.

 

[Black]

Anyone know how long you could store dmt for?

I know the basic idea is to keep chems away from heat/light/moisture - but say if you kept it in a baggie or tinfoil would it keep in a drawer for a few months or more?

if not stored ideally it will turn into orange goo with time. supposedly that still works, but i doubt that it's as nice to smoke as clear white crystals. i've had dmt in a quite warm location, but away from light and moisture in a more or less sealed container turn orange in half a year.

 

[B9]

^ I've had some for over a year in coffee filter papers which remained as it was - YMMV - probably depending upon luck & humidity.

I'll count myself as lucky - I've had mushrooms go off in sealed jar yet remain good & mould free when stored in jars with loose fitting lids - who knows - probably the drug fairies

 

[TheAppleCore]

Hmm. Last night I was comparing some freshly extracted spice with some stuff I'd saved from my very first extraction, which was well over 6 months ago - side by side the old extract looked snow white, while the fresh looked like a light clover-honey yellow, which was presumably because I'd used an A/B tek on the former and a STB on the latter. (And no, I didn't get the two batches mixed up.)

It was stored at room temperature in a small airtight medicine bottle. No noticeable degradation...

 

[Rexeh]

+1 min- Pain is incredible. Tears are flowing down my face. Snot is pouring out of my nose and down my throat. I'm salivating like crazy. I'm spitting out saliva every few seconds.

t+3 min - The endorphins are taking the edge off the pain. I can feel a mild 5meodmt effect starting. Aside from the pain in my nose the effect is pleasant. Also starting to get a bit sick in the stomach but not a big deal. Common for me with 5meodmt.

t+5 min- I gag on the snot and vomit into the bucket. I am hanging over the bed with snot, tears, saliva, and vomit dripping down my face and beard. I notice just a slight psychedelic look to the sheets on my bed but just barely noticeable. No flowing patterns or anything like that. I think of how I must look and think that I'm glad my girlfriend isn't there to see. Then this seems funny and I'm slung over the bed giggling. Still intense pain.

Time for some Yopo seeds, wish me luck, LOL... xD

Peace o/

 

[Delsyd]

What the what?! I was being environmentally conscious and re-using the same naphtha probably a dozen times.

i reuse naphtha too. Only 3-4 times though. After that i find it doesnt pull as much dmt as the first few pulls unless i switch to fresh naptha.

if not stored ideally it will turn into orange goo with time. supposedly that still works, but i doubt that it's as nice to smoke as clear white crystals. i've had dmt in a quite warm location, but away from light and moisture in a more or less sealed container turn orange in half a year.

Ive had it turn orange due to hydrolysis before, but never goo.

And the loss in potency was negligable if there was any at all.

 

[Black]

Ive had it turn orange due to hydrolysis before, but never goo.

And the loss in potency was negligable if there was any at all.

i've looked at it again more closely yesterday and it was indeed solid and not gooey. i second with neglegible loss of potency too