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The Big & Dandy DMT Thread - The Fifth Symphony

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i am not so sure many would be hypernauts herein actually got a hint of a clue as to what a real DMT experience may actually involve.

this talk of synthetics aka digitaldm? m.hostilis? syrian rue??? next, y'all will have me milking the toad parotid-titty for that bufoteine hit. 5-MEO FFS??? glass dick? machines, implements, is this a Changa sess or a toolshop for retired crackheads?

first, forget what you know.
two actives: acacialoids / b.caapi 50/50
one bongload from the common billy.
inhale.
accept.
tell the trinket danglin translinguisticjewelmachine-elfrobot doorbitches to get lost, you are here for the Real Deal.
manifest destiny.
choose your reality.
freedom = responsibility.
 
LunarSylph said:
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Question: Does anyone know if there's any truth to the stories that DMT is known to actually trigger neurogenesis in the brain?..
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in at least one study involving chronic long term ayahuasceros (more than once per week, over 30+ years) vs non-user controls a significant increase in SERT density in the former group was confirmed.

and no, 5-MEO will not have neurogenic side benefits.
 
Nano what is the main difference between someone who has smoked DMT right and someone who hasn't?
 
LunarSylph said:
It's a lifesaver if you're in a negative thought-loop and wish you could just press a "reset" button on the type of thoughts you're having! DMT does a hard reboot and frees up the system memory like nothing else can :)
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This is true in some cases, and has worked for me in the past but it isnt always the case.
Ive had experiences where i was in a bad head and smoked DMT and it provided a bad DMT trip.
Set and setting is just as important with DMT as it is with any other psychs, if not more so.

Dude Man said:
1. what would be the best timing to do my heroin before the DMT trip to avoid sickness yet avoid dampening the trip? often with acid and shrooms I do it 2 to 3 hours before ingesting them and wait until near the end of the peak to do more cause otherwise the visuals are less intense and i have to do more hits to get to the same introspective deep levels but the end of the peak will blend into an amplified beatiful opiate bliss. With MDMA I sometimes am able to cut it a little closer like up to an hour before without dimishing the euphoric effects too much
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Ive smoked DMT while very high on Heroin and it did not dimish the effects at all. The breakthrough was just as immersive as any other time and i had no trouble remembering the trip.
Im not sure what the dose i smoked was, as i always just pack 100mg and smoke till i cant smoke any more.

2. what is the suggest route of admistration for a first timer?I enjoy insulfulating many halucinogens especailly 5meodmt. Especailly since it is much easier and without a "bulb" MUCH LESS gets wasted then with smoking it sandwhiced between layers of tabbaco and/or weed. But on the other side of the coin i felt that i didnt get the full experience of the 5meo dt wothout smoking. So what I found best was to sniff about 7-10 mg followed by instantly smoking the same amount with some weed. Would something like this work for DMT?
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Smoking is the best in my experience. Just pack 100mg and smoke till you cant anymore if you are lookoing to have a breakthrough experience.

3. What dose would be suggested for someone who likes to push it a little far and can handles hefty trips. like to take about 5-6 grams of good shrooms, 3-5 hits of acid minum, enjoyed 20mg of 2ce first time,?Basically will be purchasin .1 as in 100 milagrams and dont have any scale let alone a mg scale so will be eyeballing 1/3 (33 mg) which us what the dealer suggested that i split it, 1/4 (25mg) seems too low cause i want a break thorugh expereince, 1/2 (50mg) probally too much for first time i think but is dead center for "strong" dose according to erowid, any suggestions Also what is a good dose if I have a friend shoot me up with some of it? How would preparing a shot of it compare to preparing a shot of other drugs (any heat, just water or saline, how much liquid to much dmt, any risk not involved in IVing it that doesnt exist with other drugs)?
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Like i said above, i like to pack 100mg and smoke untill i cant anymore if im looking to have a breakthrough expeirence. Sorry i cant give an exact amount of mg's. I never actually finish the whole 100mg though, im guessing 50mg is enough for a breakthrough. But the purity of the dmt is also a big factor in the dose required.
Id say pack it all and smoke till untill you reach desired effects.

As far as Iving it. I do not recomend that you IV plant extracted DMT because it usually isnt the purest. And its not wise to shoot plant fats and oils. Unless your DMT is synthetic or rather as close too 100% pure as possible i wouldnt IV it.
here is a good thread on IVing DMT. I suggest you read it before going through with it.
4. Also is it important to have some else be a comapnion tripper or are you sop gone that it doesnt matter and just important to have a sitter and take turns go into the exploration of the realms the dmt has to offer? the 2nd option is what i got from 5meodmt, which i had a steady supplier for like 4-6 months and did it 3-8 times each month for that time period and the best time was smoking alot of it while peaking on 4 hits of acid then later in the trip snorting 10mg mixed with 100mg of heroin which suprising brought me back into a wierd place even though i had already almost completely come back from the 5meo realm.
WANT TO TRY WITH MAOI BUT NOT ON FIRST TIME
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If you breakthrough having a companion tripper isnt neccessry because the trip is so immersive. Having someone there to be a trip sitter never hurts though.
nanobrain said:
i am not so sure many would be hypernauts herein actually got a hint of a clue as to what a real DMT experience may actually involve.

this talk of synthetics aka digitaldm? m.hostilis? syrian rue??? next, y'all will have me milking the toad parotid-titty for that bufoteine hit. 5-MEO FFS??? glass dick? machines, implements, is this a Changa sess or a toolshop for retired crackheads?

first, forget what you know.
two actives: acacialoids / b.caapi 50/50
one bongload from the common billy.
inhale.
accept.
tell the trinket danglin translinguisticjewelmachine-elfrobot doorbitches to get lost, you are here for the Real Deal.
manifest destiny.
choose your reality.
freedom = responsibility.
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There is no such thing as a "right" way to smoke DMT. What you prefer may not be what others like.
Some like changa, other like DMT straight.
Some like it from acacia, others from mimosa and yet others prefer the synthetic.
To say that your method is the right method seems a little egotistical.

nanobrain said:
in at least one study involving chronic long term ayahuasceros (more than once per week, over 30+ years) vs non-user controls a significant increase in SERT density in the former group was confirmed.

and no, 5-MEO will not have neurogenic side benefits.
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Ive never heard this before. Do you have a source for this. Id be interested in reading more about it.
 
An Iz said:
Nano what is the main difference between someone who has smoked DMT right and someone who hasn't?
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the way the question is phrased precludes the possibility of a meaningful answer.

those who know, know. ;-)

remember, its not you smoking the DMT but rather, oh i digress
 
Delsyd said:
There is no such thing as a "right" way to smoke DMT.
To say that your method is the right method seems a little egotistical.


Ive never heard this before. Do you have a source for this. Id be interested in reading more about it.
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dang straight and sure is egotistical, and ore than alittle. and bob is your mother's brother. ;-)

there's only one reality after all. as there certainly is a right or wrong way about goin' on with your smoked demontea adventures. having been privileged to administer/guide over 500 participants to date in nothing short of transformational sessions i claim entitlement to my nsho.

fyi, a 50/50 conepiece, nonpacked, comes in ~250mg - 1/2 of which is the n,n,DMT so there aint no half pregnant w/this material.

some may understand the true meaning of the following:

fuck your shaman*
kill your guru**

--
10 second google:

R.G. Santos et al. / Journal of Ethnopharmacology 112 (2007) 507–513

Effects of ayahuasca on psychometric measures of anxiety, panic-like
and hopelessness in Santo Daime members

Received 21 December 2006; received in revised form 16 April 2007; accepted 18 April 2007 Available online 25 April 2007

'Assessing serotonergic function the authors found a significant
up-regulation in the density of the serotonin transporter
in blood platelets of the ayahuasca drinkers compared to the
control group (Callaway et al., 1994). Up- or down-regulation
of peripheral platelet receptors is considered to reflect similar
biochemical events occurring in the brain. None of the participants
showed evidence of any neurological or psychiatric
deficit.

Callaway hypothesized that the causative agent of this platelet
effect was tetrahydroharmine (THH). In a self-experiment, he
underwent single photon emission computerized tomography
(SPECT) scans of his own brain 5-HT uptake receptors before
and after a 6-week course of daily dosing with THH. He found
that the density of central 5-HT receptors in the prefrontal cortex
had increased'

love and light
 
Im sure your method provides quite the experience, im not arguing with that.
What im saying is that there is no right or wrong way of going about it.
Ive never tried your method and have had "transformational and enlightening" experiences from just DMT extracted from mimosa smoked through a machine. :)

And thanks for providing the source i asked for. That is an interesting find. Though from reading that excerpt it says that THH was responsible for the density increase rather than DMT.:\
 
Some strong opinions. Maybe some strong opinions for me:

Have smoked straight n,n-DMT a handful of times using tried-and-true breakthrough methods (fine technique) and haven't had what I'd consider a full breakthrough even though I've been to the other side. The experiences have been downright weird, though I've heard that goes away. Nothing that made me scared, but nothing that moved me an amazing way emotionally either. The experiences were all just weird and yes amazing too.

Anyway, my question is this. Should I try a higher dose (have been attempting about 60mg thus far)? And/or should I try while on another psychedelic (was thinking about trying in combo with a little 2c-d)? There's still some anxiety for me with the DMT experience, and I have no such anxiety while on normal psychedelics. I wonder if it would potentiate the DMT and make the experience more comfortable.
 
A lot of people like to stick with the traditional route and all that stuff..


But I like extracted DMT +moclobemide as that MAOI the absolute most
Most moving experiences of my life
 
There is now a confirmed acacia native to da hood that contains MT, DMT and MAOI b-carbs...rhymes with 'trifecta' get it, boil it down, get it into ya. dont forget to say hi in the Izness, as remember, wherever you go, ther i am ;-)

smoked DMT dose for one hit Reality is about 150mg pure n,n. caapi takes it to the Aussiehuasca realms of 10,000ug + as in LSD equipotency.
 
nanobrain said:
There is now a confirmed acacia native to da hood that contains MT, DMT and MAOI b-carbs...rhymes with 'trifecta' get it, boil it down, get it into ya. dont forget to say hi in the Izness, as remember, wherever you go, ther i am ;-)

smoked DMT dose for one hit Reality is about 150mg pure n,n. caapi takes it to the Aussiehuasca realms of 10,000ug + as in LSD equipotency.
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IME 150mg+ tends to be total white-out territory. I've smoke DMT up to 200mg, which I thought was awesome at the time, but I got less out of it in retrospect than I would have if I'd just done two 100mg sessions or even 4 50mg sessions.

Not to mention, DMT can make my lungs feel seriously molested if I go at it with too much vigor; using the machine helps though, its really more of a fog than a smoke.
 
After effects of smoked DMT

Hello!

I am wondering is it ok to smoke DMT tomorrow for the first time when I am leaving to India on monday - is the after effects somehow long and complicated?

I have used LSD and other psychedelics various times and I could consider my self as a experienced.

I understand that the trip is like hour at max but could I be confused and somehow shaked by this experience for many days? For other condititions, I am at good shape, I meditate and do yoga every day and the dose would be like 20-30mg. Ill go to India for the very first time and its my first long trip alone.
 
Okey. So, can I smoke it alone or do I need somebody to watch me? Is it even possible to move around on this trip?

EDIT:

Hmh. I realized that I hurry maybe too much with this. Decided to get into this properly and smoke when time comes - maybe in spring after my travel.

Sorry for this unnecessary thread. Peace & love :)
 
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