The Big & Dandy Combo Thread
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mezcal, great post. I second your opinion. Combining two similar TA's or PEA's really doesn't add much to the experience; typically one will overwhelm the other. I've had much more success combining PEA's and TA's that have markedly different effects alone. Some of my favorite combinations other than the more conventional ones (e.g. combining MDMA with a hallucinogen) have been:
5-MeO-DIPT + 2C-B = this was probably the most intense body high I've ever had off psychedelics alone. Not much of a head trip, very fun
2C-B + LSD = this was definitely more empathogenic than your standard acid trip, and the sensory psychedelia was different from either compound alone. it was somewhat like candyflipping, without the crazy euphoria and the long, cracked-out comedown.
2C-B + 4-HO-MiPT
LSD + mescaline = a threshold dose of mescaline made the LSD trip more empathogenic and less anxiogenic at the same time. excellent combination
5-MeO-DIPT + 2C-B = this was probably the most intense body high I've ever had off psychedelics alone. Not much of a head trip, very fun
2C-B + LSD = this was definitely more empathogenic than your standard acid trip, and the sensory psychedelia was different from either compound alone. it was somewhat like candyflipping, without the crazy euphoria and the long, cracked-out comedown.
2C-B + 4-HO-MiPT
LSD + mescaline = a threshold dose of mescaline made the LSD trip more empathogenic and less anxiogenic at the same time. excellent combination
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Swerlz
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^ how was 4-AcO-MiPT with the 2C-B?
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I don't know... I've combined two or more PEAs and two tryptamines before, and I've usually found it to create a new effect unique from each drug, or at the very least to create a nice blending of the effects. I've never had the experience be weaker at all.
Although I definitely agree that it's more effective to mix a PEA with a tryptamine. I think that may be due to the fact that the two kinds of chemicals are so different in effects.
I say go for it, BD, and report back! There have been stories of extremely powerful experiences with 4-AcO-DMT and mushrooms combined. The worst that could happen is that you have a trip that's not as strong or special as you expected. But I'm sure it would still be fun in any case!
Although I definitely agree that it's more effective to mix a PEA with a tryptamine. I think that may be due to the fact that the two kinds of chemicals are so different in effects.
I say go for it, BD, and report back! There have been stories of extremely powerful experiences with 4-AcO-DMT and mushrooms combined. The worst that could happen is that you have a trip that's not as strong or special as you expected. But I'm sure it would still be fun in any case!
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Although this isn't really on topic, I heard that the harmala alkaloids and mushrooms mix very well together.
Unfortunately, I doubt all that many people have a bunch of different 4 substituted tryptamines on them at the same time, and it's even less likely that they would try and mix them. So I doubt anybody will be able to answer your question. I could be wrong.
When I mix drugs, I don't want it to feel like the two drugs combined... I'd assume that's what mixing two tryptamines would feel like.
I've never really heard of two psychedelics canceling each other out (although I'm sure some do)... unless it's something like marijuana and DMT. My friend, while extremely high, came up with "the rule of psychedelics" which is "you can't take more drugs and feel less funny".
Unfortunately, I doubt all that many people have a bunch of different 4 substituted tryptamines on them at the same time, and it's even less likely that they would try and mix them. So I doubt anybody will be able to answer your question. I could be wrong.
When I mix drugs, I don't want it to feel like the two drugs combined... I'd assume that's what mixing two tryptamines would feel like.
I've never really heard of two psychedelics canceling each other out (although I'm sure some do)... unless it's something like marijuana and DMT. My friend, while extremely high, came up with "the rule of psychedelics" which is "you can't take more drugs and feel less funny".
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Well my reason for not wanting to combine phenethylamines with something like 4acoDMT is because PEAs.. at least in the common 2C-x class, feel like shit in comparison and the mind trips just aren't useful for me.
Mixing LSD + 2C-B, for example, just made a quality LSD trip into a sloppy psychedelic mess.
But I think a couple similar tryptamines would definitely not feel like two drugs fighting each other. Something like 4hoMiPT and 4acoDMT , while definitely not the same, are similar enough that I bet they would easily meld into each other.
Well, mushrooms and 4acoDMT combo is next on my to do list, we'll see how that goes whenever I get the chance. Chances are few and far between these days.
thanks for your thoughts, even if I disagreed with some of them
Mixing LSD + 2C-B, for example, just made a quality LSD trip into a sloppy psychedelic mess.
But I think a couple similar tryptamines would definitely not feel like two drugs fighting each other. Something like 4hoMiPT and 4acoDMT , while definitely not the same, are similar enough that I bet they would easily meld into each other.
Well, mushrooms and 4acoDMT combo is next on my to do list, we'll see how that goes whenever I get the chance. Chances are few and far between these days.
thanks for your thoughts, even if I disagreed with some of them
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MDMA and DMT, instant candyflip. IMO much more euphoric and empathetic then LSD/MDMA. DMT while on MDMA is just pure bliss, its so smooth and so woderfuly synergise together it feels as "naturaly alteirng" as DMT alone. Im not talking about rolling complete face half retarded un able to move, but a sensiable 80-100mg of MDMA with maybe a booster toward the end of teh roll if it was spent some where else and the DMT was smoked on the come down of the intial MDMA effects but come up of the booster.
But, then there is something more, Iv only done it on lower doses, as it was a first time and in a "out doors" setting (whic oddly enough is not where I take my higher dose experiences, I perfer people and music... and a light show!). But a half a tab of LSD (ruffly 50mics) and 80mg of MDMA and smoked DMT while on the peak was such a beautiful thing. I felt as those I was on my frist ever dose of MDMA for teh first time rather then the hundredth something. beautiful energy expelling through my body, the apparence of auras around everything, totaly connection to the emotional databas eof human and finding every studdy thing and using it.
Another great one is MDMA/2c-b and DMT, at reasonable doses, nothing to over power either one, The 2c-b synergises with the MDMA in a way f prolonging the MDMA experience and bring the experience to a smooth come down rather then a harsh crash which can be felt from LSD/MDMA when abused at higher doses. The DMT just potentiates its self in the way that it an feel like MDMA by its self, and the beautiful 2c-b visuals with more meaning(totaly meaning).
These are just recent ones Iv done, They have all been very emotionaly stunning and have left me with a great mood for days to come. The DMT as a possible reset, seems to have a way of eliminating the MDMA crash completely. It smooths it out so that you are able sleep at a reasonable time and it doesnt leave you drained. Iv done it two nights in row (well one was in the day) and it didnt loose magic nor did I even feel the unwanted effects at anytimes from repeated MDMA use, (Iv had horrible hang over befor, but this is usaly from MDMA/MDA combos, which do synergise together).
A possible one I would like to know about would be, 4acodmt/MDMA-DMT. I have a feeling I would ejactulate to life while on such a synergetic experience.
But, then there is something more, Iv only done it on lower doses, as it was a first time and in a "out doors" setting (whic oddly enough is not where I take my higher dose experiences, I perfer people and music... and a light show!). But a half a tab of LSD (ruffly 50mics) and 80mg of MDMA and smoked DMT while on the peak was such a beautiful thing. I felt as those I was on my frist ever dose of MDMA for teh first time rather then the hundredth something. beautiful energy expelling through my body, the apparence of auras around everything, totaly connection to the emotional databas eof human and finding every studdy thing and using it.
Another great one is MDMA/2c-b and DMT, at reasonable doses, nothing to over power either one, The 2c-b synergises with the MDMA in a way f prolonging the MDMA experience and bring the experience to a smooth come down rather then a harsh crash which can be felt from LSD/MDMA when abused at higher doses. The DMT just potentiates its self in the way that it an feel like MDMA by its self, and the beautiful 2c-b visuals with more meaning(totaly meaning).
These are just recent ones Iv done, They have all been very emotionaly stunning and have left me with a great mood for days to come. The DMT as a possible reset, seems to have a way of eliminating the MDMA crash completely. It smooths it out so that you are able sleep at a reasonable time and it doesnt leave you drained. Iv done it two nights in row (well one was in the day) and it didnt loose magic nor did I even feel the unwanted effects at anytimes from repeated MDMA use, (Iv had horrible hang over befor, but this is usaly from MDMA/MDA combos, which do synergise together).
A possible one I would like to know about would be, 4acodmt/MDMA-DMT. I have a feeling I would ejactulate to life while on such a synergetic experience.
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I'd like to get more opinions on DMT + piracetam-
I really like this combo - I just got done blasting 30mg of DMT with 1,7 grams of piracetam an hour before-
I had what I would call a breakthrough (of a 40-45mg level)- my visuals became a landscape then morphed into a room where an entity-being creature was hovering over a table picking up objects and telling me about 'space' and 'morpho-cognitive theories of extended mind-brains' -
very intense, very clean, very good - also was one of the best body rushes I've had from DMT yet-
I really like this combo - I just got done blasting 30mg of DMT with 1,7 grams of piracetam an hour before-
I had what I would call a breakthrough (of a 40-45mg level)- my visuals became a landscape then morphed into a room where an entity-being creature was hovering over a table picking up objects and telling me about 'space' and 'morpho-cognitive theories of extended mind-brains' -
very intense, very clean, very good - also was one of the best body rushes I've had from DMT yet-
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Some good combos I've tried (and links to reports if they exist):
2C-I + 2C-C - Unique effect that was unlike either of them alone. It seemed to produce a very emotionally neutral state with the introspection of 2C-I and the smoothness of 2C-C, with unique, green/blue visuals and a tendency to make the written word look 3-dimensional (weird but described in my report).
AMT + 4-AcO-DMT - Covered in many places. Extremely euphoric, ridiculous body buzz, strongly visual.
AMT + 4-HO-DMT - Similar to the above combo but less "buzzing" and more ego-crushing. I had a very powerful experience on this combo a little while back.
2C-E + 4-HO-MiPT - This produced an effect stronger than either on their own and longer-lasting as well. Just total alteration. Recommended!
LSD + 2C-B - Produced a beautiful and glowing state that was different from either alone, and very deep. I spent 80 minutes of it laying down in bed with my eyes closed listening to music, and the CEVs were astounding. They were bright and vivid but very finely-detailed and fractallized like LSD, except not like LSD visuals in character. The trip centered on the concept of infinity. I also felt my consciousness split me from the top of my head out the bottom of my feet into equivalent vertical slices, each slice being a different person, complete with personality and history, all simultaneously. It was difficult to remember who I actually was for a while. Here is my report (the first part... I went on to take DOC the next day).
Those are the ones I've tried that have stood out to me.
2C-I + 2C-C - Unique effect that was unlike either of them alone. It seemed to produce a very emotionally neutral state with the introspection of 2C-I and the smoothness of 2C-C, with unique, green/blue visuals and a tendency to make the written word look 3-dimensional (weird but described in my report).
AMT + 4-AcO-DMT - Covered in many places. Extremely euphoric, ridiculous body buzz, strongly visual.
AMT + 4-HO-DMT - Similar to the above combo but less "buzzing" and more ego-crushing. I had a very powerful experience on this combo a little while back.
2C-E + 4-HO-MiPT - This produced an effect stronger than either on their own and longer-lasting as well. Just total alteration. Recommended!
LSD + 2C-B - Produced a beautiful and glowing state that was different from either alone, and very deep. I spent 80 minutes of it laying down in bed with my eyes closed listening to music, and the CEVs were astounding. They were bright and vivid but very finely-detailed and fractallized like LSD, except not like LSD visuals in character. The trip centered on the concept of infinity. I also felt my consciousness split me from the top of my head out the bottom of my feet into equivalent vertical slices, each slice being a different person, complete with personality and history, all simultaneously. It was difficult to remember who I actually was for a while. Here is my report (the first part... I went on to take DOC the next day).
Those are the ones I've tried that have stood out to me.
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Some of my best trips were
LSD+DOC+K
4 HO DIPT + K
MEscaline+ mushrooms
DMT + shrooms
2ce + LSD
Mushrooms + DXM
these are the first that come to mind
LSD+DOC+K
4 HO DIPT + K
MEscaline+ mushrooms
DMT + shrooms
2ce + LSD
Mushrooms + DXM
these are the first that come to mind
Jabberwocky
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I recently tried 2CT7 + piracetam + DMAE + DMT
glorious, just glorious
I also really liked ketamine + 4-ho-DMT recently-
also marijuana and ketamine (woohoo CEVs!)
glorious, just glorious
I also really liked ketamine + 4-ho-DMT recently-
also marijuana and ketamine (woohoo CEVs!)
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5-meo-dmt goes so well with everything I’ve tried it with. I love smoking a good hit when I start coming down from a trip and start getting a little tired, it is like a refresher and it clears my head.
5-meo-dmt 4-ho-mipt my favorite.
5-meo-dmt & 2C-E so good.
5-meo-dmt & n,nDMT very nice
4-aco-dmt & n,nDMT very good.
I like to do combos with the short acting stuff incase it turns out bad I’m not stuck there for hours.
5-meo-dmt 4-ho-mipt my favorite.
5-meo-dmt & 2C-E so good.
5-meo-dmt & n,nDMT very nice
4-aco-dmt & n,nDMT very good.
I like to do combos with the short acting stuff incase it turns out bad I’m not stuck there for hours.
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One I've tried recently is DPT (snorted) and DOI. The DPT wears off right about the time the DOI kick in. The transistion is very strange, and usually very pleasant, at least for me.
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