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Phenethylamines The Big & Dandy Bromo-Dragonfly/DOB-Dragonfly Thread

DJfriendly, I was coming onto BL today to post my thought that most of this thread's information was probably corrupt as I have heard from multiple sources that lot of these supposed brdfly papers are fakes. Looks like you beat me to it!
 
i have a question...

does bromo-dragonfly require any specific method of storage, other than obvious out of moisture, out of heat (higher than room temperature) and light?

had a look around the net but nothing much use came up, other than some people have kept it in the freezer to keep it out of harms way for sure
 
From what I have been told, Bromo-D is much more stable than LSD It does not degrade nearly as easy. I would still aim to keep it cool and dark as possible. But take my word with a pinch of salt as I am told I am not a trusted source of information, & I get my compounds mixed up.
 
BDFLY is quite stable. Must be the iron wings...

gabbachris said:
...I get my compounds mixed up.
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Try especially not to do this with BDFLY, brother g-chris. :)
 
tobala said:
BDFLY is quite stable. Must be the iron wings...

Try especially not to do this with BDFLY, brother g-chris. :)
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this was exactly what we done when we first got some. we were told they were strong trips and dont take more than 2. We tried 1/2 and 2.5 hours later were laughing but at the same time saying how mild they were. "Sod The Half" was the critical moment and we took another 1 & 1/2. Not knowing about Bromo-d at all and the fact it takes about 3 hours to kick. We did not see it coming, We did not know what hit us. My earlier story tells some of the tale.
Wont be making that mistake again,
 
Having read through the last few pages of this thread all I want to say is I'd vouch for gabbachris - he's relatively ;) sane IMO & all in all he isn't talking shit.....


Feel the love etc <3 :D
 
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BRDF, tested, pure, unblottered.

2-3mg ingested on a whim after said individual accidentally, stupidly, stupendously insufflated 30-40mg DOC from the wrong vial in the dark. the DOC, pure to be sure, active as all git in other primates at 1.75-3mg oral, and at this level a certain overdose, had the individual retreat to his tent to make peace with god and ask the gentle reader et al to forgive this stupid death, had...no effects on the psyche, induced significant kundalini tremors and periph. vasoconstriction but nothing worse than sticking your finger in a light socket for awhile..although it is still hard to explain how the tent was tarred and feathered on the inside in the morning when neither were present in the vicinity...

to make the long story short, the BRDF taken the next day, euro batch, in a somber bulletproof psychotic/thanatotic finger dippin thumbprint lickin style did...nothing. though the acute alien presence of the chemical was felt on the body until bedtime 4 hours later.

one may draw certain conclusions from this inexplicable event inlight of the individual having neither psychedelic tolerance nor experience with either material.

i spose were he to drink the half bottle of highly concentrated liquid LSD, the valuable and extremely rare material, birthed of crystal pure, would be wasted unduly.

sky was yellow and the sun was blue, nah, the road was green and a total 300k green line driving home in jammed traffic on both sides, while the lane chosen parted clear just in time, Red Sea style.

although how does one know whether he is really dead???
 
well, hard to tell anything without getting into too much rambling then.^
received a similar impression with the 2c-fly compound where a full dose was a full dose of a long lasting mellow feeling, in comparison to better known 2c's.
on the other hand doses below 1mg were clearly perceptible the other day.
left me with the impression that the term psychedelic cannot be attributed to a certain substance.
*walking about repeating the old set&setting mantra again and again*
 
^well, you know me and i'd never take anything i did not measure to within 2mg personally. but this was bizzare - no effect from an obvious overdose of DOC led to a persistent belief that i may have in fact moved on and no longer can learn from the space psychs offer. tested said theory w/the BRDF in a stoopid way. to no effect. 300mcg is active in humans. again, never tried either compound, nor had psych tolerance after months of abstinence.
 
nanobrain said:
2-3mg ingested on a whim after said individual accidentally, stupidly, stupendously insufflated 30-40mg DOC from the wrong vial in the dark. the DOC, pure to be sure, active as all git in other primates at 1.75-3mg oral, and at this level a certain overdose, had the individual retreat to his tent to make peace with god and ask the gentle reader et al to forgive this stupid death, had...no effects on the psyche, induced significant kundalini tremors and periph. vasoconstriction but nothing worse than sticking your finger in a light socket for awhile..
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That is the highest dose of DOC i have ever heard of being consumed (by a factor of two!) are you having trouble remembering the experience? I would really like to read a trip report, its amazing you can be so (seemingly) nonchalant...the realization that i had accidentally ingested 40mg of DOC alone would give me a heart attack! Not to mention what it would feel like once the drug took effect. do you think you hit the 'saturation point' perhaps after then 15mg mark any increase in dose has little effect...unlikely but possible (i have heard about this with LSD, where dose dosent really matter with a finger print because you are hitting the saturation point i.e. all receptor sites are occupied by LSD molecules, is there any pharmacological evidence that this is possible (there are a finite number of binding sites.)
but this is clearly a very dangerous thing to do!
 
^^ nanobrain is saying that the DOC had virtually no effect. My guess is astronomical tolerance. I can imagine how one might reach that level of tolerance after years and years of frequent dosing. During my worst periods of tolerance I could take 7-10mg of DOC orally and feel a nice amphetamine-like euphoria with light distortions (I mean light), and vasoconstriction, but no real trip.
 
There's enough anecdotal evidence to suggest the DOx's build tolerance MASSIVELY. They seem to really downregulate those HT2as.

MODERATION is key if you want to remain tripping once every few weeks.
 
So how dangerous do you guys think this drug could be. I always wonder about RC's and if they will end up giving people parkinsons or some crap in 5 years time :\ Seen as this is relativly new, unlike 2c-e and 2c-b, what sort of info is there and what can be known about it in health-hazard terms just from its chemical structure etc?
 
I'd hesitate to make any definite pronouncements but br-dfly is relatively close to DOB which is relatively close to DOM which has a reasonably long track record of being fairly safe; however, whatever the fent stuff was that was giving Parkinson's syndrome (MPPP? my memory is failing me) was "relatively close" to fentanyl....
 
yeah cause tbh i was kind of concerned when i read this:

Because of the structure, it may turn out to be a bit iffy in the genetics dept. as I think the benzodifuran nucleus is the right shape/electronic configuration to interact with the DNA chain (not too bad, but acts as an intercalator - forms hydrogen bonds and sits inside the DNA chain)
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Not a mutagen, just something that slows translation of DNA into mRNA. This tends to effect rapidly multiplying cells most (erythromycin is, I think, an example of the same sort of effect).

I'm just thinking out loud with this one - saw the structure of benzodifuran and a little bell went off in my head saying "looks a bit like some compound known to interact with DNA" (most of them are antibiotics)
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effects rapidly multiplying cells? sounds fucking cancerous.
 
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