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The Big & Dandy bk-MDMA (Methylone) Thread

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I have experienced some beautiful visuals( curving edges, great patterns on walls) from M1. If you smoke a fair amount of good buds this effect is increased ten fold.

Last night I smoked some jwh-250 right around the peak from my second dose of M1, and was able to close my eyes and create entire TV shows in my head, with several characters and intricate plots. I also saw wonderful color objects on my ceiling that would swirl towards me in glorious patterns while listening to some Thievery corporation-Tommorow.

Although MDMA is the better chemical, methylone is stunningly beautiful if done in the right dose, with a fair amount of opiates and benzos before and after, and some good smoke.
 
theotherside26 said:
I have experienced some beautiful visuals( curving edges, great patterns on walls) from M1. If you smoke a fair amount of good buds this effect is increased ten fold.

Last night I smoked some jwh-250 right around the peak from my second dose of M1, and was able to close my eyes and create entire TV shows in my head, with several characters and intricate plots. I also saw wonderful color objects on my ceiling that would swirl towards me in glorious patterns while listening to some Thievery corporation-Tommorow.

Although MDMA is the better chemical, methylone is stunningly beautiful if done in the right dose, with a fair amount of opiates and benzos before and after, and some good smoke.
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What's your normal dose? And have you ever had visual effects from MDMA? I've taken methylone in the 150 mg range and no visuals whatsoever.
 
^^^ I Took 650mg total in the night. I also had a little butylone on the tail end. I have never been so impressed with this chemical until this time. The batch was beautiful crystals that sparkled in the light, and the quality of this batch was so beautiful it made me cry. It lacks the real "depth" of MDMA, but it is beautiful in its own right when you tickle your CB receptors and throw in some opiates for good measure.
 
Ignorant question coming up, but I suppose it's better than just blindly doing shit. Is it true that Methylone is theoretically safer than Mephedrone, due to it being closer to MDMA than meph is? I hear all sort of nasty shit about meph being toxic, what's the consensus on methylone?
 
theoretically it's definitely safer than mephedrone. it doesn't have the 4-methyl group that mephedrone shares with dodgy and (likely pretty) neurotoxic compounds like 4-methyl-amphetamine and doesn't metabolise into 4-methyl-ephedrine, which is a proven cardiotoxin.

besides that i've never read about rashes or purple knees with methylone.

we of course don't know for sure yet, but all signs point into the direction that methylone is a whole lot safer than meph.
 
Black said:
theoretically it's definitely safer than mephedrone. it doesn't have the 4-methyl group that mephedrone shares with dodgy and (likely pretty) neurotoxic compounds like 4-methyl-amphetamine and doesn't metabolise into 4-methyl-ephedrine, which is a proven cardiotoxin.

besides that i've never read about rashes or purple knees with methylone.

we of course don't know for sure yet, but all signs point into the direction that methylone is a whole lot safer than meph.
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Yeah methylone is definatly safer. The amphetamine counterpart also has been extensivly studied.
 
Dangers of taking Methylone if you have Ataxia?

As the title says, are there any known dangers of giving someone with a minor case of Ataxia, bk-MDMA (methylone)?

I have a friend very interested in trying this compound, looking for the MDMA experience. However, after briefly researching, any possible reactions or interactions with MDMA and Ataxia. I discovered some interesting claims and data suggesting MDMA actually can cause Ataxia (although not proven supposedly)?

Now I know bk-MDMA and MDMA aren't the same, but I just wanted to be sure on whether or not these speculations are true and whether or not my friend would be OK to consume this lovely compound.

Thanks.
 
and Nichols' research on m1 suggests safety. I don't know how it generalizes to high doses (150 mg is typical for the non-tolerant).
 
Cool, it seems like a much better alternative to meph, which i tried and did enjoy it has to be said. But the whole supposed shitness of it puts me off. I'll give this a go - how do people dose for maximum peak duration?
 
If anyone has any information or knowledge on this please chime in. I do not want to give this person this compound unless I'm 100% sure bk-MDMA will not cause any harm or exacerbate the condition.
 
We're not scientists, most probably know as much as you do.
Better safe than sorry I guess.
Sorry can't really help :\
 
skeettls said:
We're not scientists, most probably know as much as you do.
Better safe than sorry I guess.
Sorry can't really help :\
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Which is why I'm hoping someone with knowledge on the subject to chime in :| Thanks for the bump though :)

Moderators, if you feel this will get more responses in OD or PD please move it.
 
^ At those kinda doses I experienced no stimulation to speak of, a mood lift, surprisingly decent tactile enhancement and increased appreciation of music. Did note however small 'dips' into minor dysphoria throughout the experiences, namely when music stop. Dysphoria is too strong a word though as it didn't really enhance or reduce my mood *that* much either way. Don't really see many uses for such small doses, I would guess such a dose would provide a very nice enhancement to a nitrous session or would produce a mild but very pleasant state if combined with a small amount of ketamine.
 
Do you have a link for that paper/abstract?
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PM me a reminder. I have a copy saved on my other computer. It's actually focused on 4fa, but it includes a robust comparison involving bk-mdma.

ebola
 
theotherside26 said:
I have experienced some beautiful visuals( curving edges, great patterns on walls) from M1. If you smoke a fair amount of good buds this effect is increased ten fold.

Last night I smoked some jwh-250 right around the peak from my second dose of M1, and was able to close my eyes and create entire TV shows in my head, with several characters and intricate plots. I also saw wonderful color objects on my ceiling that would swirl towards me in glorious patterns while listening to some Thievery corporation-Tommorow.

Although MDMA is the better chemical, methylone is stunningly beautiful if done in the right dose, with a fair amount of opiates and benzos before and after, and some good smoke.
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For me and many of my friends, all of them quite experienced with Methylone, it can be quite visual, especially at the tail-end of high doses and when you're smoking cannabis with it. I don't really like the speedy aftereffects of Methylone, but the visuals I get then make the comedown definitely more enjoyable for me.
 
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