The Big & Dandy bk-MDMA (Methylone) Thread

[Listening]

What's the consensus about pre-loading with piracetam before dosing methylone? Saw PepperSocks' report which sounds encouraging, but I haven't seen much more than that and wonder if his experience is consistent with others.

 

[naginnudej]

So I ended up binging on MDMC for six days.

Finals and a long drive home were the main factors in my decision to keep pushing forward (note my last binge post), although the enjoyability of this substance did not stop me from going back for more. During the binge I sustained a relatively normal sleep schedule until the 5th day when I drove 7 hours through the night (into the 6th morning). I did my best to stay on some sort of normal eating schedule and made sure to maintain my extensive supplement regimen.

Serious tolerance buildup was not noticed.

As for addiction, I am not the fiendy type and am easily able to stop using when I so desire although oddly enough during my 'binge' I never felt like I was over stepping my boundaries. Kinda weird, right? I didn't allow myself to sleep today in order to get my sleep patterns back in place. I also haven't experienced any deleterious effects on my mood as of yet, although I will add to this post if anything shows up. In fact, I feel pretty damn good right about now.

This post is not intended to encourage this sort of use. I don't doubt that much more of my (ab)use could have led me down a nasty road. I'm aware of the risks but I consciously made the decision to continue.

I still have a fairly large size stash left but it's definitely going away for awhile.

 

[PepperSocks]

What's the consensus about pre-loading with piracetam before dosing methylone? Saw PepperSocks' report which sounds encouraging, but I haven't seen much more than that and wonder if his experience is consistent with others.

Ya, there's not much out there on it. My piracetam trial were all solo and I found it made it much more smooth, euphoric and deep. As if it had broken through to a psychedelic state. Without the piracetam I found methylone rather frantic and highly stimulatory with some MDMA-like effects but I found the piracetam helped it "breakthrough" which as you may know from psychedelics after you hit that breaking point the jitter and body load dissapear and therapeutic euphoria prevails.

Recently though I had a methylone experience without piracetam but it was with people. I found just having it around people made it smoother and more euphoric. I'll have to try the piracetam combo with people some time to see if it makes it even better.

 

[chaosbydesign]

All I can say is that my Methylone experience was very similar to MDMA, with less negative side effects throughout the duration of the roll. However, after the roll, the crash was the worst one I've EVER felt. I just felt like fucking dying, doomed, and like everything was hopeless.

I'm not sure whether the bad comedown was because methylone affects me that way, or if I'd just done a higher or more powerful dose relative to what I was used to with MDMA.

We did 120mg at first and then added about 50mg on a few hours later for some reason....

 

[Clarkis]

So i got sold some molly last night, and tested it with my marquis several times, all yielding the same reaction: strong fizzing, sometimes with a puff of smoke, then straight to yellow. Could this be methylone? I live in the states and didn't think it was going around, only in the UK.

Also, what are the smells, tastes, textures, etc that are associated with m1?

 

[Black]

could also be mephedrone.
mephedrone is said to fizz, while methylone ime doesn't. but mephedrone supposedly only gives a faint yellow while methylone gives and intense yellow.

my methylone was kind of fluffy powder that stuck together and had a smell that's somewhere in between vanillia and plastic. the taste was a bit bitter and mildly like mdma. of course smell, taste and texture vary a lot depending on purity synthesis and a lot of other factors and therefore are in no way suitable for identifying a chemical.

 

[invert]

Discovering the binge potential of methylone

Until recently, I always had a reasonably sane relationship with methylone. Sometimes, I'd have none for ages (two grams sat unused in my drawer for well over a year). At other times, I'd have it occasionally (e.g. every few weeks). At worst, a few years' back, I was sometimes tempted into taking it once or twice a week. But always at most around 250 mg in a night with no redosing after first peak arrived.

Then recently I got too into mephedrone, and then - finding its side effects unfortunate (compulsive use followed by extreme edginess and labile heart rate the following day) - stopped using mephedrone. But I found my pattern of mephedrone use (every weekend, with initial oral attack dose followed by excessive intranasal redosing through the night) transfered over to methylone (which I had 10 grams of), and then extended into using methylone every two or three days, sometimes two nights running, and using more each time. The 10 grams ran out in 30 days. I'm fairly sure tolerance to all its effects was noted by the end, with larger doses required to feel any stimulation or euphoria (and never the lovely feelings that methylone can produce to a less overexposed brain).

During this period of methylone-abuse, the main effect noted was that two or three days following each dose, I'd feel incredibly tired, falling asleep on buses etc. (more so, I think, than I'd expect from the lack of sleep; I've done shift-work in the past, so I can compare with that). Other than that and the developing psychological dependence and the lack of sleep itself, no major psychological problems were noted for the duration.

Following cessation a couple of weeks' ago (when the methylone ran out!), I've been fine: no cravings or massive crash, emotionally or physically. Whether I can go back to using it more sensibly in the future is another matter. I don't know; but quite possibly not: If I ask myself honestly what I'd do right now if I had some methylone available, I think I can say with some confidence that I'd use it to excess tonight.

Anyway, people's mileage may well vary, of course. This is just a personal experience I wanted to share of discovering the binge-potential of a drug I wrongly thought I would always use with some restraint.

 

[Clarkis]

could also be mephedrone.
mephedrone is said to fizz, while methylone ime doesn't. but mephedrone supposedly only gives a faint yellow while methylone gives and intense yellow.

my methylone was kind of fluffy powder that stuck together and had a smell that's somewhere in between vanillia and plastic. the taste was a bit bitter and mildly like mdma. of course smell, taste and texture vary a lot depending on purity synthesis and a lot of other factors and therefore are in no way suitable for identifying a chemical.

Hmmm. We shall find out soon enough. What are the distinguishing factors between meph and methyl? as far as effects and/or symptoms

 

[Black]

i can only speak for methylone myself which at the peak is almost like mdma, but with a much clearer head and much less "fucked-up-ness".
friends that have tried mephedrone said it's more like amp or coke with some mdma elements and a lot of "fucked-up-ness" (is there a proper english word for that?).

 

[Ximot]

@invert:

I have spoiled methylone for goood, for myself. After 20 or 30 grams ingested between 2006 and 2008 (mostly) I have come to the conclusion that it is a most treacherous substance, on so many levels. i have also completely spoilt it for myself, of course, by abusing so much. But I feel it has permanently altered my brain chemistry, and side-effects got worse over time. Well, I used to think that about MDMA, and after a few years I had recovered and the magic came back. This may happen with methylone but i doubt I will ever find out. I am done with tis one, and with most if not all empathogens. The price i pay is just so much more than what I get out of it at first.


If anything, I will take good old amphetamine sulphate if I get the chance. If it's a clean batch and taken in moderation it may well be ok. It wakes me up and makes me happy, yet it leaves me calm and focused, not restless. And if I keep the dose low I hardly even get a comedown. If ever there was a drug that sets me 'right' then that is the one.

 

[love_sex_desire]

So i got sold some molly last night, and tested it with my marquis several times, all yielding the same reaction: strong fizzing, sometimes with a puff of smoke, then straight to yellow. Could this be methylone? I live in the states and didn't think it was going around, only in the UK.

Also, what are the smells, tastes, textures, etc that are associated with m1?

I heard that some vendors or people mix mephedrone and methylone as they apparently combine well together? I haven't done either of them, just speculating. I'd be extremely careful if you don't know what it is or know anyone who has tried the same batch.

I think I might try methylone at some point. I have a bit of a tolerance to MDMA and I simply like trying out new things. As far as empathogen/entactogen use goes, I have tried MDMA, MDA and MBDB which was pretty mild. Do people agree that methylone is an empathogen/entactogen or more of a stimulant?

 

[Clarkis]

Not bad, not bad. Much more like mdma than I had anticipated. I very much enjoyed the 'clearheadedness" during the peak, though it only lasted 30 minutes or so, with the entire experience lasting a few hours. Slight headache when i awoke the next day, but nothing a glass of water couldn't fix (prob dehydration). I wonder if the u.s. will be seeing more of this substance? And if so, will people even know? I don't think the guy that sold these to me knew quite what they were

 

[TheAzo]

Can it be insensitivity to drugs or the so called hardhead thing if a gram only gives a mild shiver and then the come down comes.

1) I hope you worked up to that dose!

2) You probably got fake/cut-to-hell/etc garbage instead of pureish methylone.

 

[Shambles]

I get similar effects on M1 - a blink and you'll miss it peak then hours of wiredness, insane fiending and the three day comedown from hell - worst I've ever had from any single drug. It's not the quality of the M1 - just effects some people that way

Also, if you're snorting it then that may be your problem. It's much weaker snorted than dosed orally/rectally and emphasises the speedy side over the more empathogenic side.

 

[Solipsis]

Starting to become speedier and speedier every time I take it and when in the beginning even 500 mg over an evening gave no side- or after effects now I experience both with half especially the side-effects on my circulatory system.

Some people claim methylone is not all that better than mephedrone, perhaps it is an undercover dickhead compound and not immediately apparent.

 

[Clarkis]

I will say though, that after a couple of bong rips into the comedown I had discovered how spectacularly psychedelic this compound can be! I was soon catapulted into a very strange headspace for a few hours afterwards

 

[love_sex_desire]

Strange as in psychedelic, or sketchy? Usually comedowns on MDMA are a little sketchy for me. I'm kind of interested in this drug but I don't know what to make of it. Do other people find it can be psychedelic?

 

[invert]

Strange as in psychedelic, or sketchy? Usually comedowns on MDMA are a little sketchy for me. I'm kind of interested in this drug but I don't know what to make of it. Do other people find it can be psychedelic?

I wouldn't call it psychedelic, in my experience. However, at sufficiently high or repeated doses, I've sometimes experienced elaborate closed-eye visuals, and rather scary shadow hallucinations with open eyes, accompanied by a degree of dissociation; but this seemed more like a sort of amphetamine-psychosis than a psychedelic mental state.

 

[invert]

Last night, I took a larger amount of methylone than I had previously taken before, namely about 1400mg over 12 hours. This is following three weeks without methylone; prior to that, my usage was at no more than a gram per session (still a hell of a lot, compared with what I once thought was the ideal maximum), but that was after gradually working up a tolerance to it. Two things worth noting from this experience:

At the moment (3 hours after last insufflated dose, 15 hours since first (and last) oral dose), I have a fairly clear mind, am somewhat tachycardic, and have tingling electric sensations in my arms and legs.

During the peak of the experience (rate of consumption increased during the night, so this was towards the end), a distinct new (to me) visual distortion emerged. Specifically, things were outlined in thin neat coloured lines, of varying colour (red, green, blue, purple, yellow etc); and grey things were more orangey than grey; and white things were more white than white. This persisted consistently for a couple of hours, and was most noticeable on the screen of my macbook.

 

[LunarSylph]

In my experience, Methylone is not even remotely psychedelic on its own... BUT it is clearly a powerful psychedelic amplifier. Even a threshold-to-low-dose DMT toke would send me flying helplessly into alternate universes to witness the strangest of things until I finally remembered to open my eyes again.

This would occur when DMT was smoked at any point within about 6 hours from a Methylone dose, so whether you were in happy-land or feeling the speedy side of things, it would add approximately 1.21 Gigawatts of psychedelic energy to the experience.