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The Big & Dandy bk-MDMA (Methylone) Thread

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I would not recommend using it more than once every few months.

There is a lot to be had from an intense serotonin-dopamine releaser like the MDxx's. But, I think to full integrate the lessons they have to teach us, time is needed between sessions. I have found once a year to work for me.

Take care of your brain - it can be fragile.
 
Methylone,the ?

Hello all,
I`m no chemist and really have only ever learned through personal experience of compounds iv`e researched.Methylone is the big ? I have seen Methylone that is white or yellowish,from having a powerful aroma to none at all,from 95 to 99% purity,seen many different forms of labelling blah blah blah.
My experiences of MDMA use go back to 1993 to 2003.When i used Methylone my first dose was orally of 170mg,i had the sweaty palms,increased heart rate,stimulation and an overall mild positive body buzz...But was disapointed with the lack of euphoria,really disapointed.I knew from my research that it would not have the sparkle and magic of MDMA but from most,or nearly all the reports on Methylone they did mention euphoria.For me the experience was an anti-climax to my expectations.I decided to dose intranasally with 125mg,the smell was very strong and quite like nothing else,the burn was short lived but the cooling,almost methnol type effect that lasted for a short time reminded me of how Ketamine feels when insufflated,the effects were notably the same as the oral dose.Maybe i have a low quality product?supposedly 95% in purity,and this is the reason for the disapointment? Or maybe it just doesn`t do it for me? And at the prices it retails at...Well,what more do i need to say?
 
How extensively did you use MDMA? How long ago did you last use it? What other drugs do you use, especially phenethylamines?
 
I use no other drugs.The last time i used MDMA was probably three years ago and it was every weekend for maybe a year,before that it was only on the odd occasion.I don`t smoke,don`t drink,excersise regularly and take many supplements:Omega3,6,9,L-Arganine,L-Lysine,5-HTP,L-Glutamine,Zinc,Multi-Vitamins,D,L,Phenylalanine,Lecithin,Acidophyllus-Probiotic,CQ-10 and eat at regular intervals and have a healthy diet.Maybe i was just expecting more,or maybe because i`m very healthy it has a harder time trying to show itself to me,or maybe i`m looking too hard?
 
Boognish said:
I've got a question. Everytime I use Methylone(which is probably every few months) it seems to control me, so-to-speak. No matter how hard I try I end up redosing until it's pointless and just plain stupid:X . I've never been addicted to anything, not even cigarettes, so this is extremely out of the ordinary for me.
My question is this: is there a way to get rid of the craving that I get on the comedown by maybe taking a small dose of another psychedelic(miprocin maybe?), or would something like xanax be more appropriate? I would just start experimenting on my own, but I wan't to know if there are any already known safe methods of getting rid of that annoying feeling to redose like a freakin junkie. Thanks in advance guys.

I am a junkie, so I understand where you are coming from. I shouldn't really say that about myself though. Technically, I am a recovering addict. Methylone has had this effect on me at times, and it has bothered me as well because I obviously have an addictive personality. As you know, redosing just makes it worse. It makes me feel terrible when I get in that mind set because I do not condone the abuse of entheogenic drugs. I don't get that feeling every time I use Methylone, but it happens more often if I am using it every other month or so rather than a few times a year.

Personally, I think a good benzodiazepine would be more appropriate for this, but to each their own. Many people have found that taking a traditional type entheogen or even something like 2C-B after an experience with Methylone, MDMA, MDA, etc works very well. I think I would prefer using Methylone after an experience with another entheogen to reflect upon the experience rather than using the entheogen after then empathogenic experiece.
 
^ I agree with what you say - after experimenting both ways, I generally prefer the psychedelic first then the empathogen (4-ho-DMT then methylone is nice)-

peace
 
So what is the score with the bicarb thingy? That if i take some bicabonate of soda before consuming M1 that it will produce a stronger effect? True or Not?
I know that if you wash up Cocaine with some bicarb you get a stronger product (crack) and that it`s to do with the ammonia freeing the base...I think thats right,or maybe free basing is different than washing up Crack? Back to the topic,is there any documentation of this theory with the M1?
 
Duppy_conquerer said:
So what is the score with the bicarb thingy? That if i take some bicabonate of soda before consuming M1 that it will produce a stronger effect? True or Not?
I know that if you wash up Cocaine with some bicarb you get a stronger product (crack) and that it`s to do with the ammonia freeing the base...I think thats right,or maybe free basing is different than washing up Crack? Back to the topic,is there any documentation of this theory with the M1?

No documentation whatsoever. No more evidence for it than some kid saying "i took prune juice and it made my LSD trip 50 times stronger". The placebo effect is very powerful.
 
Bicarb increases the half life slightly due to changing the pH of plasma, but in all honesty it's not wirth bothering with as fucking with things like that can come back &bite you in the arse (the increased sodium meaning water retention etc etc etc)

As for the redose thing with methylone - yes it is a bugger, especially if you like stimulants as then you can get through a fair bit before the wake up call of,'hang on, I'm only getting stimulant effects now and it's rather an expensive drug to use as a stimulant'.

It does have the best aroma of any chemical drug I've encountered though (a drug with a pistachio fragrance... mmmm). Only a drug that smelled of rose/Turkish Delight could surpass that! :D
 
I`m exremely new,well a novice with Methylone.I have had a history of addiction and know what kind of personally i have so these days i`m very careful BUT with this M1 i`ve done four nights in a row,using Valium to crash on.I plug the M1 as i find this a better method for me,puttung things up my nose just aggrevates me and when i get the chance in the evening to dose it`s always after a meal,plugging really works well...I`m a straight guy and at first i thought it was a bit gay to do that,no disrespect meant to any gay persons but thats just how i felt,stupid really as it`s just another method and says more about my hangups than anything.I could never tell my friends as they would rip me to shreds,but between us it`s the best method in my opinion.I just did 200mg that way in about seven bursts over about twenty minutes...You know what i don`t even know what i`m going on about.Oh yeah the addiction potential,definately has a similarity to cocaine compulsion,but,instead of feeling horrid from Cocaine i feel great the next day,like an anti depressant type stimulant,my job is physical and boring but after the M1 the night before i seem to have genuine happiness and a natural fast strength...Even people in my job have been commenting on my whisling as usually im a bit dour,they probably think i`ve got lucky...In a way i have.

WARNING TO MYSELF:Calm down and stop popping Valium,be straight until Friday at least.

Weird side effect:Extremely sweaty hands and feet,everytime i do it.
 
you must stop this habit as it will come back to bite you in the ass, I promise. I can give you the stats of methylone compared to MDMA, they are very close. M1 releases much more dopamine and less serotonin than MDMA, but it will still cause long-term crash if abused.

Just because you feel good now doing this does not mean its good long-term.

Think.

Reflect.

Respect your body.
 
What is the largest dose of methylone you have taken in one sitting??

Most people tend to agree the dosage for this substance is anywhere from 60-250mg. My 2 grams M1 arrived yesterday and the plan was to dose on 200mg with a 50mg booster. Things did not go according to plan. I ended up boosting every 20 minnutes til my 1st gram was gone.. then eventually started on the 2nd gram. Ended up dosing 1.5 grams Until i finally came to my senses and realize how much of a waste it was. I knew going in that taking more than
250mg would not yeild much more results, the drug totally took control of me.

Would like to know the most you guys have taken with methylone (planned or unplanned)....
 
The most I've taken at once was around 175mg oral and that was too much in the sense that I started getting lightheadedly dizzy and had to sit down in fear of passing out from the rush. 100mg rectal was also pushing it for too much at once.

I have never boosted it as I don't have the desire as I start coming down (my thoughts turn toward taking care of my physical body and nurishing it with what it needs, ie food, water, vitamins, and sleep).
 
dude, this methylone stuff sounds like it borders on the unhealthy for sure. i don't know, i mean it's not the only psychedelic with addictive potential, but i've just heard this same story from so many people...

if i ever sample it, i should only get one or two good doses.
 
This thread seems to be heading in the direction of discussing addiction/habituation/compulsive behavior with regards to methylone, which is what I'd hoped for, so I'm keeping it open, but let's stay on that track and away from posting about taking large doses of drugs, which can stray into dicksizing :)
 
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