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The Big & Dandy bk-MDMA (Methylone) Thread

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I have tried methylone a couple of times (100-250 mgs). It's ok, a kind of relaxed mdma high but it goes away too fast and leaves you wanting more.
 
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moniorojo said:
I have tried methylone a couple of times. It's ok, a kind of relaxed mdma high but it goes away too fast and leaves you wanting more.
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For those intrested in IV admin. Of M1.I have done it many times, yes its great.I start usually with 60-70 mg diluted and cooked down till there is no powder left, if there is ANY powder left it totaly craps your rig. The onset after shooting is instant, the high lasts for a max of 30 mins then like a lightswitch your at baseline with a strong desire to do it again, not as strong as let's say coke but bad. The stimulation after effect and desire to repeat lasts for an hour or two for me. Repeted IVing produces the exact same feelings as the first with a harsher comedown and prolonged stimulation. Yes its great but not for everyone please be careful. - don't have bluelighter status yet so PMs will go unawnsered (just mentioning because I have had some)
 
Last week i had a few g's of m1.

I have had a few years of experience with this chemical with a break for about a year when the price of it went up quite a bit. Now it's fairly cheap have decided to start usingit again.

Since finding methylone i have put it into the very limited categoy of uppers i like, mdma stopped being fun for me about 6 years ago and ime methylone isn't quite the same feeling as it, i find m1 much more pleasurable in effects and i like the short duration.

I thought i would post about it this time though as i tried IV'ing it for the 1st time. As did 5 of my friends. I started of small with 10mg to test for reactions.

Dosage i found to be between 50-90mg, effects aren't that different from oral administration but satisfy needle fever. Could see some people getting addicted to this if they went down the IV route.
 
Administered 150 mg of bk-MDMA and 20 mg bk-MBDB in dH2O plus a bump of K, feeling it already at T+0:15 :)

Let's see if the bk-MBDB addition is noticable..
 
Hmmm it's much more speedy somehow! I don't think this is the way to go.
 
" i am one of those who love methylone
never tried mdma but methylone really just satisfies me
it may be short and stuff but i really dont mind.. i dont get the urge to re-dose as well.. i treat each time i take it as a special time..
i believe set and setting for methylone is really important..
as well as having an empty stomach.. 90% of the time i have taken methylone was with my gf and we always enjoy it.. never had a bad experience or anything..
once it begins to peak everything feels soft, get blurry vision, eyes rolling, tingly, happy, some grinding, sometimes we get visuals even..
and it comes on really fast! which is something i really like about it..
we normally bomb 180-220mg
have yet to find our super sweet spot.. but around that range does it well for us..
we end up talking about how much we love each other and our families and friends.. makes us realize a lot of things.. we really enjoy talking about each other on methylone.. it seems to bring out topics unconsciously and we believe to the bone that its true..
side effects have been erratic for me tho.. for the first time i took it i was sweating like a pig for days with no jaw pain..
second time the sweating was not so much but the jaw pain was really bad..
another time there was some sweating and i could barely open my mouth..
another time (not sure if this was from methylone) but my ears kept on popping like how pressure affects it on high altitudes or something which eventually led to a headache most of the day..
sometimes our heart rates go up fast, sometimes it does not..
i notice as well that if i take higher than 220mg i have a hard time getting it up and feel cold really fast with tingling sensations in my hands and arms..
i still love it.. heh
still lots of research to be done..

noticed that it does not mix well with weed for us.. like we bombed 200mg and smoked weed.. i think the weed got us high first then when it was over the methylone kicked in (2-3 hours later).. and we tripped on shrooms(philosopher stones; around 8g dry for me and about 4g dry for my gf) after that which gave us really intense visuals and a crazy mindfuck for my gf.. i felt like the trip was being on dmt.. visuals seemed to be like dmt visuals.. as well as the feeling.. i really think it does intensify shrooms..

will share more once we have researched and done more :) "
 
I tried both.
Butylone is a little strange IMO.
Compared to methylone there seems to be a little bit of that quality that and it certainly lends itself to some lovey effects, but at the same time it has a hard driving current making it somewhat speedy. IME it is in your own hand what you do with that speedy energy, it can become jittery stimulation or it can become a flow that is truly beautiful especially in combination with other substances such as 2C-B that lack their own push.
So you see there is a little similarity with butylone to methylone but also this unique effect that - for me - rule it out for general partying madness and favor it to combine in lower doses to enjoy the synergistic effects...
A housemate of mine came by this evening and railed some of my butylone. It gives him a stimulating push he likes and I heard from another friend there was a time he was craving it like in the middle of the night time... B1 that is...
Remarkable... I will not be ordering B1 again - methylone is just much better. But I am also not a fan of real stimulants.
 
Methylone is to an MDMA high and butylone is to an MDMA comedown. Methylone makes me feels lovey and euphoric with a pleasant stimulation. Butylone gives me that anxious, non-euphoric, edgy stimulation, I don't like it at all.

Methylone > Butylone big-time.
 
cool, i'm not a huge fan of stims, more a fan of psychs now (downers before... opiates and benzos and meprobamate), but i like to try different things...

seriously Uniter.. i guess i'll find out for myself.. but i have'nt heard much good about butylone :( oh well, its cheap, and i can allways trade;)
 
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i guess i'll find out for myself.. but i have'nt heard much good about butylone
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I felt the same way when I got mine. I wanted to try it because of the conflicting reports and I figured I might be able to find some good in it. I also heard a combo of M1 and B1 was supposed to be very similar to MDMA which is what I was aiming for. I was wrong; it's just crap lol.

Live and learn. :)
 
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entactogens are not just stimulants, in fact they are a class of psychedelics.
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That is not a 'fact'. Otherwise, prove it.
If you ask me entactogens or empathogens are a distinct class in which there are some substances that are also somewhat psychedelic but not all. They are still different things, even though there is some overlap.
A good reason for me to say this is that psychedelic means mind-manifesting and I know excellent empathogens that don't produce that but heart-manifestation. What entactogens indeed are is a class of psychoactive drugs.
The fact that they act on the CNS and change your mood, behaviour and other brain functions does not make it a psychedelic.
 
I've seen 'don't mix with SSRI's' in here a few times. Is that for the same reason as MDMA (diminished effects) or is it actually dangerous?

My one experience (not combined with SSRI): took about 200mg at home, found it made me very lovey, touchy, and chatty. Wanted to talk to my gf and chat to people online and generally interact with people. Wore off after 2 hours or so, felt like redosing would be a good idea but it was easy to resist. Trouble sleeping but made it eventually. Next day felt fine though a little washed out. Comedown bad (a few days later) felt very grumpy and easily angered.
 
Solipsis said:
That is not a 'fact'. Otherwise, prove it.
If you ask me entactogens or empathogens are a distinct class in which there are some substances that are also somewhat psychedelic but not all. They are still different things, even though there is some overlap.
A good reason for me to say this is that psychedelic means mind-manifesting and I know excellent empathogens that don't produce that but heart-manifestation. What entactogens indeed are is a class of psychoactive drugs.
The fact that they act on the CNS and change your mood, behaviour and other brain functions does not make it a psychedelic.
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I don't want to go in an endless discussion on the differences between mind-manifestation and heart-manifestation, so let's just agree in that they are not purely stimulants.
 
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