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The Big & Dandy aMT Thread (3rd incarnation)

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luckycloud said:
Hmm.. how small a dose of aMT are we talking about to safely avoid "flirting with serotonin syndrome" during an aMT-assisted Candyflip, out of curiosity?
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It's impossible to know for any individual for certain. It's best just to try it with a small oral dose (like 20 mg), see how you tolerate it, and inch up from there. I took 20 mg aMT (IM) with 80 mg 4-FA (rectal) and 50 mg 4-AcO-DPT earlier today for a trip to a state park and have been stunned by the results. I just took 125 mg MDMA, but it's been 6 hours since last dosing anything, because I can't let a day this good end early.
 
^Keepin it going with low dose g, small ketabumps and the occasional toke. Pretty successful so far.

Took some green tea extract with 5HTP earlier. I had read that the extract blocks the decarboxylase that would otherwise chew up the 5HTP -- so it gets to my brain. Hopefully, once there, different enzymes will take over to convert it to serotonin. If anyone sees something wrong with this, let me know. I only just bought the two components of the cocktail last week.
 
psood0nym said:
^Keepin it going with low dose g, small ketabumps and the occasional toke. Pretty successful so far.

Took some green tea extract with 5HTP earlier. I had read that the extract blocks the decarboxylase that would otherwise chew up the 5HTP -- so it gets to my brain. Hopefully, once there, different enzymes will take over to convert it to serotonin. If anyone sees something wrong with this, let me know. I only just bought the two components of the cocktail last week.
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I'd be interested in hearing how that goes, if it's a strong enough affect to block the comedown from AMT and other stimulants. Right now I'm in essay writing mode, which I kicked in gear with 1g DL-phenylalanine and a cup of green tea. I've tried Excedrine (APAP w/caffine) and green tea extract for this and it worked fairly well, but there was more jitteryness involved with it. This is pretty smooth aside from some minor stomache troubles from taking the phenylalanine on an empty stomache to increase absorption. Not really AMT thread material... But still relevant if it brings you back from the neurotransmitter deficit from that that massive combo!
 
There is a site selling amt. stating that 15-25mg is good dose. is this so they can avoid unwanted trouble or is there anyway their amt could be particularly stronger than the amt everyone has been saying 50mg is a good dose?
 
jabbajosh said:
There is a site selling amt. stating that 15-25mg is good dose. is this so they can avoid unwanted trouble or is there anyway their amt could be particularly stronger than the amt everyone has been saying 50mg is a good dose?
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Erring on the side of caution I imagine, lots of people will measure doasge by eye and inevitably take more. Taking an extra 10 or 20mg on top of 20 should be relatively fine, taking an extra 20 on top of 50 or 60 could leave you in a pretty bad way. (Especially if it's fb)
 
Just got my AMT today, I think to try this weekend.
What do you think about the AMT + piracetam, how much AMT should I use?
I heard that Piracetam increases the effects of tryptamines.
 
Lombergerh said:
Just got my AMT today, I think to try this weekend.
What do you think about the AMT + piracetam, how much AMT should I use?
I heard that Piracetam increases the effects of tryptamines.
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Hey here is my experience with piracetam and aMT. It's posted in the old aMT thread.

"I tried it a couple times since I posted last. Both times I followed Xorkoth's advice and dosed the piracetam 45min to an hour before the AMT.

The first time I ended up throwing up much more and much earlier into the trip than I normally do. I think the piracetam kinda upset my stomach and with the addition of AMT I couldn't handle it. I must have thrown up some of my dose because it did not feel nearly as strong as it should have (I took 70 mg).

The second time I tried it I smoked a lot of weed on the comeup and also took some pepto bismol pills. I just sat on the couch and remained motionless and the weed made any nausea go away. I didn't throw up and around and 1 and half to 2 hours into I knew I wasn't going to because I could feel the peak effects arriving.

My subjective experience with piracetam before AMT is that it will not make the experience any stronger but will make it more clear-minded and euphoric. It did not seem to have any effect of visuals. My AMT trips with piracetam seemed more speedy than my trips with AMT alone.


Anyways I don't know if I would recommend piractam before AMT because it did make me more nauseous. But if you don't mind getting really stoned before your trip starts I would say it was worth it."
 
General Patton said:
I'd be interested in hearing how that goes, if it's a strong enough affect to block the comedown from AMT and other stimulants. Right now I'm in essay writing mode, which I kicked in gear with 1g DL-phenylalanine and a cup of green tea. I've tried Excedrine (APAP w/caffine) and green tea extract for this and it worked fairly well, but there was more jitteryness involved with it. This is pretty smooth aside from some minor stomache troubles from taking the phenylalanine on an empty stomache to increase absorption. Not really AMT thread material... But still relevant if it brings you back from the neurotransmitter deficit from that that massive combo!
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No depression or brain zaps as of yet. I would normally have brain zaps by today, perhaps tomorrow. Zaps are really consistent for me after taking any strong serotonin releaser so I assume it did something. If I get them tomorrow I'll post, if I don't post assume I didn't get them.
 
I have a question about a source, without getting too specific about sourcing info. A very good, reputable canadian vendor is willing to ship me amt(to usa). he said he never has any seizures. was hoping if any one can shed some light and fulfill my confidence. thanks
 
melange said:
I have a question about a source, without getting too specific about sourcing info. A very good, reputable canadian vendor is willing to ship me amt(to usa). he said he never has any seizures. was hoping if any one can shed some light and fulfill my confidence. thanks
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Not sure if it's the same vendor but j recently contacted a Canadian vendor about a different rc and they assured me that there were non seizures that they were aware of. Seems a bit ropey to me so I'll probably give it a miss.
 
You were mistaken, it's been renamed the big and dandy rainey and scooby hissy fit thread. ;-)
 
k.kat said:
yeah my pellets turned purple, but you said "6-apb" shouldnt turn purple,
so it had me thinking my pellets were they fake/ not 6-apb,

i had 6-apb powder sitting there that i hadnt tested, and was expecting it to turn purple too like the pellets if it was real 6-apb, but you said different,

i have now tested the white powder and it tested the same colour as the mdai i also had which was hardly any colour change it was such a very pale/faint pinky/peach colour but almost clear,

other peeps have now tried these samples and ended up binning them, the mdai done nothing, and the supposed 6-apb made peeps feel anxious/ uncomfortable/ horrible, like pips, ,so i now believe the real stuff whether pellets or powder should turn purple,
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what colour do mdma and mda turn? if its purple then i would guess 6apb will to. rainy is spreading misinformation for whatever reason he see fit to. if you know its a load of rubbish pay him no heed at all from now on. simple:)

this thread is about aMT so if your not here to talk about it shut your face and move elsewhere please, cos things are getting derailed
 
pofacedhoe said:
what colour do mdma and mda turn? if its purple then i would guess 6apb will to. rainy is spreading misinformation for whatever reason he see fit to. if you know its a load of rubbish pay him no heed at all from now on. simple:)

this thread is about aMT so if your not here to talk about it shut your face and move elsewhere please, cos things are getting derailed
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yeah your right,
and when reading his quotes i started thinking "is this not the aMT thread"
scrolled up and yeah it is,

so i will delete my posts, hopefully he will too,

but there is no need to tell me to "shut my face" you could have been a bit more polite,
 
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