The Big & Dandy aMT Thread (3rd incarnation)

[Lombergerh]

Did you got a change of consciousness?
Were the visuals?

 

[k.kat]

Did you got a change of consciousness?
Were the visuals?

what do you mean ?

well i did think it was more bodily than mind even though i had euphoria if you know what i mean,
kind of like i didn't feel out of my head, but i still felt euphoria,

like on E im definitely totally out of it in my mind as well as body with lots more extreme euphoria,
its hard to explain but there was just something about it in the mind that i didn't feel totally drugged,
but that was maybe because i think i needed a higher dose,
like its artificial,
but i suppose most RC's do feel artificial, like mcat, jolly, 6-apb,
even though they feel artificial i still do enjoy them, and will do until i find real E again.

but that doesnt mean i didn't like it because i did enjoy it

visual ways when eyes were closed i was seeing only lines
it was more when eyes were open everything was moving,

i have also candyflipped before even that felt more intense,

but i definitely enjoyed it and will do it again

sometimes i have a strange way of explaining things / getting things written down properly ,lol

 

[Shambles]

like its artificial,
but i suppose most RC's do feel artificial, like mcat, jolly, 6-apb,
even though they feel artificial i still do enjoy them, and will do until i find real E again.

Is MDMA not just a tad artificial too?

One thing I always loved about aMT was how natural and organic it felt to me - kinda like MDMA's mellower hippy cousin.

i have also candyflipped before even that felt more intense,

Candyflip + aMT =

 

[k.kat]

Is MDMA not just a tad artificial too?

One thing I always loved about aMT was how natural and organic it felt to me - kinda like MDMA's mellower hippy cousin.



Candyflip + aMT =

1. Mmm, but strong and intense which i do love,

2. well when you put it like that, yeah i know what you mean,

3. Maybe one day when ive overcome my fear of proper tripping again,
see i used to trip a hell of a lot on LSD & much more mushrooms pre 1988 when i discovered E,
but have had a few bad trips so havent tripped since 1999
(a bad one)
tripping used to be my favourite before that and before E,
but i did probably over do the mushies, E too probably, lol.
but i can still do E, well when i find real ones again & not pips, lol,

P.S. artificial as in compared to E there is definitely something missing, in all of them

 

[Special_Monster]

I'm such a retard. I got extremely drunk last night all I remember is having to take my housemate home because he threw up at a club. I'm sure I went to bed around 1am but I wake up now only to find next to my bed my chemist spatula dipped in a bag of 0.75g of AMT I haven't opened for months (for reason, I hate AMT unless combined with 4-aco-dmt or 4-H0 mipt) and I'm now in the AMT headspace with AMT annoying haff tripping visuals.

Fucking hell, I hate myself right now as i'm wide awake now with no benzos on hand and I wanted to have a serious chemisry study up day tomorrow,


I fucking hate alcohol. And AMT.


Anyways to the point, what is peoples experiences of AMT with alcohol?

I normally drink on psychedellics such and LSD and shrooms and the mushroom analogues when I feel I need to be more social but I've never been drunk on AMT (or in this case taken amt while very drunk)

Edit:

I don't even have my headphone to chill to as ironically I got too drunk last night and left them with my coat at a club. FML

 

[bbx4]

I'm such a retard. I got extremely drunk last night all I remember is having to take my housemate home because he threw up at a club. I'm sure I went to bed around 1am but I wake up now only to find next to my bed my chemist spatula dipped in a bag of 0.75g of AMT I haven't opened for months (for reason, I hate AMT unless combined with 4-aco-dmt or 4-H0 mipt) and I'm now in the AMT headspace with AMT annoying haff tripping visuals.

Fucking hell, I hate myself right now as i'm wide awake now with no benzos on hand and I wanted to have a serious chemisry study up day tomorrow,


I fucking hate alcohol. And AMT.


Anyways to the point, what is peoples experiences of AMT with alcohol?

I normally drink on psychedellics such and LSD and shrooms and the mushroom analogues when I feel I need to be more social but I've never been drunk on AMT (or in this case taken amt while very drunk)

Edit:

I don't even have my headphone to chill to as ironically I got too drunk last night and left them with my coat at a club. FML

Fuuuuuckkk... Man I feel your pain. I've done that before with LSD, DOC, and 2c-t-7. Never seemed to learn my lesson. Hopefully your hangover won't be too bad. I had a couple bottles of wine once and then I thought it would be a good idea to take a couple tabs of LSD and after the LSD wore off I was so fucking hungover and miserable. When I did it with DOC it wasn't too bad, I forgot that I had taken it, went to sleep only to wake up tripping 3 hours later. Then proceeded to trip for the next 24 hours. Just try and cut yourself a break. You were drunk, you weren't thinking. It's not like you planned to take the aMT.

I don't like drinking on aMT by the way. It kinda takes away from the experience in my opinion. I love smoking pot on aMT though!

Care to elaborate on your experiences with aMT and 4-aco-dmt a bit more? I am looking forward to trying this combo as I think I will really enjoy it. How long after you dosed your aMT did you take your 4-aco-dmt? How much do you dose of each?

 

[Special_Monster]

Hey man sorry, I went to grab headphones from my friend who had my coat like a mile away.

Yeah this is my first experience like taking a psychedellic stimulant and falling asleep and fuck man I couldn't imagine takind LSD let alone 2c-t-7 and waking up, there would be muchos confusion for me.

Anyways yeah I don;t like aMT really that much, it feels to much of a psychedelic hinterland on it's own where your not fully tripping but only slightly however I feel with 4-aco-dmt or psychedelics without much stimulation of their own it works perfectly on creating an immense deep experience.

4-aco-dmt for some reason has never made me really overwhelmed or tripping hard on it's own, maybe thats because I only stuck to 35mg at the most, however with amt it totally blew my world.

I feel that amt is a great psychedelic to layer with other psychedellics (apart from 2C-I and you can see where that goes wrong as stimulatin overload in my case)

I wish I had some weed, I just moved house so I need to find new dealers for LSD and weed and I only brought my RCs with me like 4-aco-dmt, aMT and 4-ho-mipt.

 

[rainey]

what do you mean ?

well i did think it was more bodily than mind even though i had euphoria if you know what i mean,
kind of like i didn't feel out of my head, but i still felt euphoria,

like on E im definitely totally out of it in my mind as well as body with lots more extreme euphoria,
its hard to explain but there was just something about it in the mind that i didn't feel totally drugged,
but that was maybe because i think i needed a higher dose,
like its artificial,
but i suppose most RC's do feel artificial, like mcat, jolly, 6-apb,
even though they feel artificial i still do enjoy them, and will do until i find real E again.

but that doesnt mean i didn't like it because i did enjoy it

visual ways when eyes were closed i was seeing only lines
it was more when eyes were open everything was moving,

i have also candyflipped before even that felt more intense,

but i definitely enjoyed it and will do it again

sometimes i have a strange way of explaining things / getting things written down properly ,lol

I know exactly what you mean....it`s almost like feeling straight with being out of it in the background or vice versa.

I still think it`s a very crude drug and nowhere near worth the money compared to 6=apb. Or rather the `version` of 6-apb I have!

 

[psood0nym]

4-aco-dmt for some reason has never made me really overwhelmed or tripping hard on it's own, maybe thats because I only stuck to 35mg at the most, however with amt it totally blew my world.

I feel that amt is a great psychedelic to layer with other psychedellics (apart from 2C-I and you can see where that goes wrong as stimulatin overload in my case)

I can't remember the last time I took just aMT. I remember once years ago taking it without any cannabis and calling around to all my friends begging them to bring me some immediately to take the edge off the onset. Smoking was such a relief.

It's OK on its own once it levels out, but really, for my purposes, it's meant to be a combo drug. It's probably the most indispensable combo drug in my arsenal, on par with cannabis, no exaggeration. I find aMT and 4-AcO-DMT or aMT and DPT superior to candy flipping. Although, now that I have access to some nice crystal MDMA I think I'll try candy flipping with a small dose of aMT. A large dose of aMT with MDMA and LSD would be flirting with serotonin syndrome, but I think a small dose would really enhance and lengthen the euphoria and smooth out the landing.

Before someone asks, I'll say that aMT and LSD, for me, was a lot of fun, but didn't have the synergy of aMT with the aforementioned tryptamines. MDMA is a better partner for LSD, though it wasn't very good with DPT. I wouldn't call aMT better or worse than MDMA; it's all about what each is partnered with and what your purposes are.

 

[ugh1979]

I still think it`s a very crude drug and nowhere near worth the money compared to 6=apb. Or rather the `version` of 6-apb I have!

Interesting, i've been thinking this week that 6-APB maybe isn't worth the money compared to aMT.

It's a close one though so i'll probably stick to a couple of 6-APB for the first 12 hours and continue with aMT the rest of the weekend.

I've been enjoying the freebase aMT the last few weekends. Zero nausea (I got a little on the the HCl about the 1 hour mark) and it seems to last a bit longer overall. I'm definitely taking less of it per 24 hours compared with the HCl I find.

 

[k.kat]

update on aMT experience,

think i forgot to say about blurry vision, (i like this)

both me & friend 1 have been feeling great since,

have spoke to my 2 other friends last night & they have informed me that once they got home female friend took more painkillers for sore head which then went away,
they said it then got stronger and they enjoyed it too, they said they couldnt believe how long it lasted didnt sleep until sunday night,lol
they said it was more trippy for them compared to me & friend 1 who got a period of euphoria then trippyness,
i believe it took much longer to hit them because they ate 1hr before bombing,

so alls good we all enjoyed it ,

pretty good value for money really as it lasts so long

 

[Ben So Furry]

Glad you had a great time k.kat

Had 50mg recently that was nothing but euphoria, tingles, and strong rushes. No visuals at all. It was my third experience and again completely different to the last. This was from the same batch. It amazes me how the same substance can vary so wildly.

I'm sure this has been asked before but would amt show up as anything on a drugs screen?

EDIT:

My apologies just found this on Erowid:

It (aMT) is not one of the SAMHSA-5 standardly tested for in the basic drug test, nor is it included in the extended drug tests. It is not chemically similar to any of the drugs tested for, so should not trigger the tests as another substance.

 

[tonsill]

handy to know in anycase

 

[k.kat]

Glad you had a great time k.kat

Had 50mg recently that was nothing but euphoria, tingles, and strong rushes. No visuals at all. It was my third experience and again completely different to the last. This was from the same batch. It amazes me how the same substance can vary so wildly.

I'm sure this has been asked before but would amt show up as anything on a drugs screen?

EDIT:

My apologies just found this on Erowid:

Thanks Ben
have you ever smoked it ?, ive got 50mg left im going to smoke that next time,
probably next weekend.

 

[MagickalKat777]

Don't smoke 50mg! 5mg at a time, wait an hour and a half, smoke more if you're not where you want to be...

 

[Ben So Furry]

Thanks Ben
have you ever smoked it ?, ive got 50mg left im going to smoke that next time,
probably next weekend.

I have smoked it on a few occasions but I found the effects to be no better and without visuals when compared to oral and it still took ages for it to kick in so I stuck with the oral route. ymmv of course and you won't know until you experience it for yourself.

Sorry to be vague

 

[sub-di]

...like i cant understand why so many people dont like E...

And who exactly are these people? I don't believe they exist...

But seriously I'm the same way with certain chems, 4-aco-dmt for example does almost nothing for me, and 99.9% of BLer's think it's the best stuff since sliced bread (I need 30 mg to even reach threshold, 40mg and beyond leave me totally uninspired and disappointed). 2C-C had a similarly uncharacteristic reaction with me as well, only the opposite extreme where even a small dose gives me ridiculous visuals and a generally uneasy and unpleasant mind and body set. And I've given both of these several trials (well 2C-C only twice).

As for AMT, I've only tried it once. It was the Memorial Day after it had been scheduled in the US if I remember correctly, and I was at the tail end of a weekend music festival. Needless to say, my serotonin was already more than spent. Not a bad trip however. Not a particularly good one either. It was as if I was merely observing myself tripping. My visual field was acutely affected, and I was in a state of confusion early in the experience, but I was in a cold and indifferent emotional state. Would not be opposed to giving it another go, in a much less depleted state of course. Would be willing to combine 4-aco-dmt with something out of curiosity as well. Won't be going near 2C-C again in this lifetime.

To each his (or her) own.

 

[rainey]

Interesting, i've been thinking this week that 6-APB maybe isn't worth the money compared to aMT.

It's a close one though so i'll probably stick to a couple of 6-APB for the first 12 hours and continue with aMT the rest of the weekend.

I've been enjoying the freebase aMT the last few weekends. Zero nausea (I got a little on the the HCl about the 1 hour mark) and it seems to last a bit longer overall. I'm definitely taking less of it per 24 hours compared with the HCl I find.

Ah...but you say `a couple of 6apb` so I assume you are taking those pellets which some people say they need 2 and a half of.....I buy 6apn in crystal form and take 150mg and it just blows amt right out of the water. There is NOTHING negative whatsoever its just lovely all the way. And that 150mg works out about £2.30.

No contest as far as I am concerned.

 

[rainey]

Glad you had a great time k.kat

Had 50mg recently that was nothing but euphoria, tingles, and strong rushes. No visuals at all. It was my third experience and again completely different to the last. This was from the same batch. It amazes me how the same substance can vary so wildly.

I'm sure this has been asked before but would amt show up as anything on a drugs screen?

EDIT:

My apologies just found this on Erowid:

Amt and 6apb are both like that....every time you take it, its different.

1st time with 6apb i felt it after 6mins...like a stone which grew and grew into `god status` after an hour....

2nd time on same batch i thought it wasnt going to work at all and felt nothing after an hour...then right on the 90min mark bang!!!! .....but no `god like` euphoria this time just a lovely laid back trippy feeling.....both times lasting beyond 10 hours

 

[rainey]

And who exactly are these people? I don't believe they exist...

But seriously I'm the same way with certain chems, 4-aco-dmt for example does almost nothing for me, and 99.9% of BLer's think it's the best stuff since sliced bread (I need 30 mg to even reach threshold, 40mg and beyond leave me totally uninspired and disappointed). 2C-C had a similarly uncharacteristic reaction with me as well, only the opposite extreme where even a small dose gives me ridiculous visuals and a generally uneasy and unpleasant mind and body set. And I've given both of these several trials (well 2C-C only twice).

As for AMT, I've only tried it once. It was the Memorial Day after it had been scheduled in the US if I remember correctly, and I was at the tail end of a weekend music festival. Needless to say, my serotonin was already more than spent. Not a bad trip however. Not a particularly good one either. It was as if I was merely observing myself tripping. My visual field was acutely affected, and I was in a state of confusion early in the experience, but I was in a cold and indifferent emotional state. Would not be opposed to giving it another go, in a much less depleted state of course. Would be willing to combine 4-aco-dmt with something out of curiosity as well. Won't be going near 2C-C again in this lifetime.

To each his (or her) own.

If so many people like a particular drug and you are unimpressed you should consider who you bought it from might be scamming you?

Even from the exact same batch you can get duff bits you know. Especially if the vendor is cutting it as you cannot cut it consistantly.

I too have found that a lot of coke heads dont like E.