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The Big & Dandy aMT Thread (3rd incarnation)

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I've seen people successfully daily dose psychedelics for anti-depressant purposes before, they key is making sure that your dose is low enough to not cause a very quick big rise in tolerance. I think a couple of people in PD social mentioned using this as an anti-depressant before, so I'm sure someone will reply soon, but I'd be very interested to hear replies too :)
 
I just received my 100mg sample dose of an orangey aMT (freebase). What sort of setting would you advise a first time taker to use in? I would like to take some at a Dj Shadow show this saturday, good idea? And what sort of dosage would I be looking at to be nicely immersed in what I assume will be a visually/audibly impressive show but not be overwhelmed?

lol just realized I made a similar post about 4 post up. goddamn benzo memory
 
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my advice would be to try a low dose at home first - 15 mgs, and just get to know the drug at least a little bit before you take a full dose of it at a concert type event. Thing is - people have different levels they like to take aMT at. Some people on here like 40-50, 50-60, 60-80 even. I myself though don't think I could benefit from taking more than 35. And it seems like people also get varying levels of audio and visual distortion, or other side effects, that is from person to person. There seems to be a lot of room for personal titration with this chemical.

So yeah, try 15 mgs see how that feels, if you find it mild, which you probably will, then next time try 25, maybe even 30. But you defintely wouldn't want to take 30 mgs of it at a concert only to find out you don't like this chemical because it makes you barf and feel too stimulated. That probably won't be the case as people seem to like this one, but this is always been my stance on taking research chemicals at public events. Just know the chemical, and know yourself.
 
Tasted aMT for probably the fourth time this weekend. I did an excellent combo of 3 hits LSD(supposedly 320 ugs), 25 mgs of 4-AcO-MiPT, 15 mgs 4-HO-MET, and 45 mgs aMT. Oh and hoovered some DPT/tiny K remnants. The aMT really pumped everything up and the 4-subs/LSD produced incredibly sexy OEV's/supremely intricate CEV's. I wish I would have dropped all chems at once but was unable to do so due to certain constraints though all chemicals were ingested within 3 hours of the LSD blots. Pretty excited to try aMT again! Probably try a higher dose alone next time.
 
I believe aMT was originally used as an antidpressant, and still is in the former soviet zones.

Does anyone believe there to be a difference from salt vs freebase orally, or is that just a relic of the crappy HCl batch that went around last year?


Do those that love this think they might be in the minority? I've a feeling this may be a little like DXM where there is some sort of genetic predisposition to love or hate the stuff (total speculation).
 
well I dosed about 20mg as a tester about 3 hours ago and am certainly liking it (after a slightly nauseous come up) I can certainly see potential for higher doses methinks
 
sorry for double post but question needing fairly immediate answer. would there be any issues having a few drinks while on aMT? I dont plan on getting pissed, but am going out and inevitably will drink a few. But will avoid it if there is evidence to suggest i shouldnt be doing so.
 
I tried doing my first trip report ever on this which I'll edit this post with later. It's not any great work though hah.
I've only had experience with AMT, 6-apb, Methylone & drone, MDMA, Coke, K and MXE and a few smokes on the side.

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I started saying Koala at the start but couldn't be arsed keeping it up all night and I don't feel like editing it. Personally, I don't see the point anyway.

Had eaten Spaghetti Bolognese 2 hours prior to dosing.

Koala is female weighing approx 125lb. Has had previous experience with other drugs but still has a long way to go :) Koala has experimented with this drug before and has had some very enjoyable and insightful experiences with the Orange batch.

Koala recieved off- white batch this time that sticks to the bag and other tools. Still has that unique aMT chemical smell though not as strong/noticable. Got off trusted tree that Koala frequently climbs to find goodies.

10:50pm = T+0.00 hrs

Koala is alone this time due to trust issues with usual compadre.

Koala ingested approx 55mg (scales needed calibrating so measured by eye (220mg divided into 4 piles))

T+0.50
Feeling a slight bit of a comeup. No nausea which is unusual as Koala usually feels ill on the comeup. There is however quite a headache on Koalas right side of the noggin' :(
A bit shakey as well.

T+1.20
Koala feels a little nauseas now. Right on que. Room feels mildly distorted but nothing intense yet. A few chills, slightly cold hands but body feels hot.
Koala has quite a bit of energy which is unusual as usually koala feels sedated and relaxed. Really feel like dancing about but family is asleep so can't be too loud tonight.

T+1.40
Feel in a pretty good damn mood! Playing dr robotniks mean bean machine n columns got lots of energy leg is twitchinnn

T+2.00
Visuals more noticable still nothing as intense as usual. Steel feel as though I'm coming up so perhaps peak at 3 hours.

T+3.00
Watching waking life, cool shit but don't feel as though this shits as good as it has been.
Took another 55mg bomb, ill probably be flying off the handle in a couple of hours. Perhaps spliff is what I'm missing as its something I've mixed with amt in the past. Alas I have none on hand :( ill prepared! Must be better equipped next time!

T+4.30
After watching waking life I decided to explore some things mentioned in it. Like 'The Book of Acts' I'm not the overly religious type that follows the rules and guidelines laid out to me, but I do believe this book has a lot of relevance and connection to the thoughts I'm having now.
An obvious sign that I'm not on this planet! Haha. Waking life always gets me, favourite movie. It just felt as though it spoke to me, as did everything else that followed.
Surprised I can still type, especially on this tiny keypad from my phone lol.
Life at the moment feels as though ill never lose it.. But ill never catch it either.. Stuck in the moment of where I am, a limbo. Just creating new ways to the beginning and the end. But ultimately, all the same.

T+5.30
A lot of holy fuck and holy shit moments of realisiation as amt takes me through that spectacular insightfulness its known to do :)
Playing wipeout HD on ps3 with the most bizarre playlist, whilst think about creation. Haha if I'm not totally fucked who the fuck is? Hahaha. Yall know what i mean. Man I'm on a bender!! Need to get away frm phone proper draining time it is!!

T+6.00
Starting to get tired, though I feel like keepin on goin ill just put my mp3 on close my eyes and let the stars take me wherever then wake up n start again :)

What doesn't make sense, in the end always works.(random note i made at some point)

Still tossin about in my head n around the bed findin it hard to turn out the lights lol (like in waking life hahaha)
Guess I just need to try Rollin with it!

Just got up to open the window, n even tho I've been on numerous trips frm where I'm layin now that had to be the most intense attempt at walking properly all night


T+14.00
I've literally been up all night, but I had the most colossal headache imaginable. Tried taking an Etizolam to relax myself, but only had 1mg left and it just wasn't enough.
Headaches gone down now though, I had a nice shower opened the window to let in some fresh air and now I'm banging some tunes out.
Geniunely in a pretty happy mood, perhaps that second bomb was overdoing it a tad but I still had a good time. It may just be me, but the orange batch i usually get seems a lot more potent than the off-white.
I'm still quite surprised how much energy it gave me in the coming up.
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Hi guys Im a newbie to amt. I have a few questions.

I was originally looking around for a mild serotonin agonist (if thats the right term?) to go with mdppp which has been my favourite dopa drug yet the cpl times I've tried it.

Doing some research into amt seems like this chem might have the all in one nature such that I might not have to mix and match- which would make life simpler.

One issue tho is I really cannot be doing with depressive comedowns. I read that it produces prob the same amount of serotonin release as mdma. Being no stranger to mdma I wouldnt like to take it agian any more as that depletes me too much. As such Im wary of this with amt esp since its said it lasts way longer suggesting it could deplete even more than mdma? Still i havent read too mcuh about reoprts of amt rivalling mdma in depression factor? but have read of trip like spaceyness and lethargy lasting several days. Could this effect be squashed/condesnsed if I took a lower dose? I dont mind feeling tired for a day after but depression is out of the question for me since I am prone to manic peaks and troughs when not on anything in my day to day life.

I see that some ppl say that low doses of amt are produce a nice mild empathogenic speedy trip which is what I am looking for- ie not after psychedia except nice small mdma esque amounts which I enjoy. So from what I read a low dose of amt would be up my st. for that if I have read corrently.

Only thing Im wary of tho is the long half life of this substance. As I said I cant be doing with midweek suicidal depression like apbs give. I also dont wanna be washed out for days.

Another thing regarding th c-down _ read that it is an analogue of amphetamine? Does this mean it is prone to a ghastly comedown as with amphetmine with the typical flu like symptoms lasting 1 week plus? That would instantly cross this substance off my list as one of interest if so.

I would take the chem in the morning like 10 am or so. Would I be ok for sleep at like 12-3 at night? I have zopiclone on standby which I imagine I'd end up using.

Also how would the comedown be the following days?

I dont mind being a bit out of it the next day but no more than that.

Like I say Id only want a low dose so what would it be like afterwards if so?

So could ppl clue me in as to whether or not this might fit the bill given the above criteria- wanting a nice gentle empathogenic but also gently speedy high (as an aside Ive found 6apb not speedy enough- last time mixing it with mdppp- which wasnt bad too mashy- not to mention the crushing depression next week from the apb- Id like more clearminded empathy- alternatively id thought of 5apb which i know is more mashy but i prefer that to 6 and dont recall depression being as bad form it- that is if nothing else is around so wanna look to other avenues 1st) and wouldnt sniff at a hint of psychedelia so long as it was only background. Also want a mild c-down.

What say yall?

In the meantime I'll casually browse back through the thread to get a better idea.
 
Reading a few of the threads 12 hours PLUS seems a little unwieldy for my tastes...

On second thought the idea of such more pronounced 'tripping' weighs as a heavy burden on my fragile and delicate mind such that I wish to stick to my more straight forward stims if anything :).
 
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^You may like 4-FA. It's sort of like MDMA-lite. An MDAI/ Adderall or ritalin combo would probably meet your specs as well. With the MDAI combo you can adjust the proportion of MDAI (selective serontonin releaser) to sort of dial up and down the empthogenic qualities relative to speediness until you find the ratio you're looking for (2-FA might substitute well for amphetamine in that combo as another option, as it's generally regarded in subjective reports as having less effects on serotonin levels than 4-FA). Certain serotonin releasers (like aMT) are typically reported to have gentler comedowns than others, but when you dump serotonin to get empathy you're always risking a shitty comedown one way or another.
 
@Harambulus

10-30mg of AMT seems to be more in the area you're looking for, but I've heard of people having heavy experiences with just a small amount.
If anything start with a low dose see if you like it then up it if you're willing to go further.

As for comedown, the last time I did it I did get a wild headache nearing the 8 hour mark but bearing in mind I did 100mg+

On lower doses (30mg) it was actually nice and spacey not massively psychedelic just a sense of peacefulness wobbly walking and a bit of distortion here and there but nothing intense and scary.

The days after doing AMT I never feel any horrible after effects. In fact I usually have quite an elated mood and I was even commented on about having a 'glow' about me today.

As for the long half life I find some smoke gets me to sleep, I've never really needed anything else.

Everyone's different, go at it with your own pace :)
AMT might not be for you at all, but on the other hand you may love it.
 
I am going to be getting 500mg of this drug later this month. Since this is a smokeible drug would rolling some of the powder into a blunt or a joint be a viable way to smoke this? I think it would be cool to roll around 25mg of powder in with weed and split it with a few friends.
 
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