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The Big & Dandy aMT Thread (3rd incarnation)

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Hello everybodies!

Well that was an interesting first ride on the aMT express!

Overall impression was that it was absolutely lovely! Disappointing in some ways, but (so far!) I'm soooo pleased I discovered it.

Weight: 10st; previous experience with Mandy, methylone (*spit!*) and spliffs.

Dosage method: 200mg of freebase aMT dissolved in 40ml of water/vinegar to give a 5mg/ml solution (or close enough) and squizzed up my (douched) bum with a plastic syringe.

First dose administered at 11.30am yesterday (t=0)

t=0 15mg
t+1.30 felt yawny but bright, but suspect that at such an early stage that might have been expectation more than the aMT
t+2.00 another 15mg
t+3.00 still feeling warm and nice and a bit yawny but bright and alert and not actually tired
t+4.00 drove into Leeds to do a bit of shopping - no impairment to driving or awareness/alertness at all. Chewing a Gregg's pasty was a bit of a chore, but not that bad. Things felt bright and 'up' (bouncy house music on mp3 player may well have helped!). No nausea, no GI discomfort
t+5.00 another 15mg
t+5.20 feel slightly buzzy and a tiny bit 'wobbly' but still very clear and capable of getting on with some work at the PC in a very focussed way
t+6.00 slightly achey shoulders - took some Mg tablets. Pupils not at all dilated
t+6.30 still very bright and smiley and just-about-noticeably chemmed. Very yawny but not at all tired - just very relaxed - oh, I'm liking this!
t+7.00 had a sandwich and a big bowl of homemade gazpacho - lovely!
t+7.30 (7pm, BTW) another 15mg. A friend dropped by to get some dosh off me for some Mandy that he was delivering later - even when I told him I'd taken aMT, he said he wouldn't have noticed, although *I* noticed I was a bit chattier than usual :)
t+8.00 yawny yawny yawny. Feel a slight impatience that this trip doesn't seem to be going anywhere other than Lovelyville, but still happy enjoying the journey
t+8.30 friend returned with the Mandy. Must - and did - resist temptation to take some later. Friend noticed that my pupils were (finally!) dilated. Had two big cream cakes - nom nom nom!! Slight headache - which may or may not be due to the aMT. Took a couple of ibuprofen
t+9.30 another 15mg - since it's now 9.30pm, this is going to be my last for tonight. 75mg seems a reasonable first time total dose, although it's been taken over about 10 hours
t+10.30 still warm, yawny, nice and relaxed
t+11.15 opened a bottle of cider
t+12.00 still very nice, but no change from earlier. No visuals or elements of psychedelia at all, which is a little disappointing. Really enjoying this unpushy, relaxed state, but a little disappointed that there was no progression to anything different. Smoked a small spliff
t+12.30 despite not actually feeling that horny, started a wank with poppers :)
t+12.50 rolled another small spliff - feel lovely, but the aMT seems to be inhibiting the spliffs a little
t+13.00 finished my wank - a little bit of an effort to actually cum (but nowhere near as bad as with (*spit!*) methylone.) And my God - what a fucking orgasm!!! I'm sure I broke some bones or damaged some internal organs!! Had a lovely hot bath - and afterwards found myself actually cleaning the bath with a nice, unforced determination - LOL
t+13.50 went upstairs to watch The Adjustment Bureau on my projector in the attic - really enjoyed it. Found I could focus on it perfectly with no loss of attention or drifting off. Loved the film (and the relationship between the two main characters) but the ending was bollocks. On methylone, I'd have been skipping between the film, the internet etc, but stuck with the film from start to end
t+14.20 a fourth small spliff and some wine and fruit juice
t+15.00 a fifth baby spliff. Listened to some trancey music in the dark with the visualiser projecting onto the wall - *very* nice, but no visuals or other psychedelic artefacts. Wished I could have had the music louder but didn't want to annoy the neighbours
t+15.50 off to bed. Felt snuggly and warm and beautifully mashed, but still clear and sharp. Worried that I wouldn't actually be able to sleep - but then suddenly it was 11am and I was waking up feeling very nice.

Planned to get up straight away but then somehow it was 12.45!!! Eeeek!


Overall, bloody lovely. I've been taking methylone recently to give me a bit of a 'push' to do stuff, but after aMT I'm very tempted to chuck the rest of the methylone away because of its horrid, pushyness that's left me irritated, edgy and with dry, sore eyes that couldn't handle working at a PC very well. aMT - at the doses I took last night - seems to have all the pluses (perhaps without the physical 'drive', but that was never as good as I expected it to be) of methylone but NONE of the minuses.

Wanking on methylone always felt like someone was standing over my shoulder with a whip (LOL) shouting: 'Harder! Try harder!!' and then always let me down with the eventual, unsatisfying orgasms, and I'd pull my pants up feeling shit and irritated and not at all 'spent'. aMT was sooooo much nicer - comparable to a Mandy orgasm.

In many ways, as people have said, it has many of the characteristics of Mandy: warmth, smileyness, unpushyness. I didn't get quite the empathy that I get with Mandy - although it wasn't far short, and felt somehow more relaxed and a bit less forced.

But the long come-up, I can see, could get a bit boring on such low doses, cos it doesn't really 'go' anywhere, even with a bit of booze and some spliffs. I think now that I've seen what it's like, and can manage my expectations next time, I don't think that will be a problem. Doing it with friends or in a more

varied, stimulating, social environment would be good.

This morning I feel nice - a little bit tired and achey, but in a good way.

Next time I do a proper trip, I think I'll start with a 30mg initial dose (or should I go higher, d'you think?).

On Saturday, I'm planning a night out in Leeds with a mate who's eager to try it, so would a starting dose of, say, 45mg be a bit rash, d'you think?

So, in summary....

pros: lovely, warm, relaxed, unpushy. No apparent body load, no nausea at all (from the 'up the bum' method). Nice, long, extended low-level high, no nasty shocks. Mild euphoria, smileyness. Cuddles and touching and - maybe (although, like with Mandy, I might have found my attention wandering) sex - would have been lovely. Brilliant wank and orgasm. Eating was no problem - unlike with mandy and methylone, which both cripple my appetite, methylone particularly.

cons: didn't feel like there was any progression with the trip. Stayed much the same from about t=8 through to t=14 with the spliffs and booze moving it on slightly after that. Found myself occasionally getting impatient with the lack of progress, but not to any great degree. I think the impatience was more to do with it being my first time and with the long come-up times.


aMT is gawjuss! And the fact that it's legal and relatively cheap in the UK is a mahoosive bonus. I shall be ordering lots more of this lovely stuff, but hope that I don't abuse it too much. I'm looking forward to upping the dose and - possibly - combining it with a small dose of Mandy late on in the trip (although I'm aware of the serotonergic risks!! Have ordered some 5-htp to help with that). I'm off down to a one-day festival in London the weekend after this one, and that should be interesting, especially with aMT's long duration, which should be perfect for a noon-10pm event.

Questions for you lovely Bluelighters: what d'you reckon my next dosage should be? And this morning some Piracetam arrived in the post - would you recommend taking this a few hours before I start my next trip, or not bothering at all?

This morning I've taken a small, 10mg dose to see how that works as a low-level 'pick-me-up': I'll let you know how that goes but already (t+1.00) I'm feeling a little brighter and sharper. Have to make sure I don't abuse aMT too much, because it really is nice stuff.

Apologies for the long ramble....*big smiley face*


Mxx
 
Aye, its always pretty nice in Leeds tbh. I love the city, and am hoping to stay here after I graduate from my MSc.

I don't think you will find aMT very psychedelic until higher doses (for me around 50-60mg) are consumed. At the lower doses it seems to be more about giving a positive mood lift. Its a good chemical, though unfortunately, I can't see it being around for too long, as it (and MXE) are too effective.

Regarding routes of administration - I've taken it both orally and insufflated. The potency seems to be similar, but I've never had nausea on aMT (though don't tend to get nausea on psychedelics). I do not recommend snorting it, although it wasn't too painful, it made my nose bleed for 2-3 days after, which is not good. I've never plugged anything (yet), though may try it one day.

I think I prefer Manchester for the clubbing and bars and stuff, but Leeds, when it's good, is pretty good. Now I need to find a trancey night to try aMT at: will have to look at RiffRaff at the West Indian Centre, if it's still going...

Yeah, I think you're right about the lack of psychedelia - a higher dose next time. Don't fancy taking it orally when there's a chance of nausea, or snorting it (have, perhaps surprisingly, never snorted anything - unless you count poppers - LOL!) when up-the-bum is so easy and clean :)


Mxx
 
Oh, and I'm hoping that because aMT has such a long come-up and lacks the 'smack-in-the-face'ness of mephedrone and coke and speed that dopey kids without any sense won't be attracted to it and thus won't grab the attention of the tabloids and the police. But I'm planning on stocking up big-time on it, just in case :)

Mxx
 
Oh, BTW - squizzing it up the bum is *soo* the way to go: not an ounce of nausea or anything even vaguely unpleasant.

Mxx


Only sometimes in my case, other times it can nearly equal the unpleasantness of oral dosing. Smoking produces the least negative effects and even that is no guarantee of non at all. God knows what it does to your lungs & it does not taste particularly good either.
 
Only sometimes in my case, other times it can nearly equal the unpleasantness of oral dosing. Smoking produces the least negative effects and even that is no guarantee of non at all. God knows what it does to your lungs & it does not taste particularly good either.

Interesting that you get the nausea even with the up-the-bum method. Not tried smoking it - and from the sounds of it, it's a bit too nasty for me to bother trying it - LOL!

Mxx
 
i may try this again next week as my vendor seems to be geting rid of his stock of it at stupidly low prices dnt know if he knows something we dnt i.e. a ban is coming or if its simply new chemicals are on the way but lets say its a gram for 200mg range at the minute
 
i may try this again next week as my vendor seems to be geting rid of his stock of it at stupidly low prices dnt know if he knows something we dnt i.e. a ban is coming or if its simply new chemicals are on the way but lets say its a gram for 200mg range at the minute :)
 
i may try this again next week as my vendor seems to be geting rid of his stock of it at stupidly low prices dnt know if he knows something we dnt i.e. a ban is coming or if its simply new chemicals are on the way but lets say its a gram for 200mg range at the minute :)

It *is* ridiculously good value for money, isn't it? :) I know someone who's going to be stocking up in the event of illegalisation or a dry-up in supply, although I have a feeling that's probably not going to happen anytime soon, cos it's not really the sort of instant-hit party drug that the idiots who end up in hospital - or the morgue - tend to take, and it's those people that attract the tabloid and police - and hence the government's - attention. Not yet, anyway...

Mxx
 
Good morning everyone!

Well, I gave the old aMT train a second ride last night, upping the dose a little to see if I could find my 'sweet spot' and I don't think I've reached it yet.

Here's how yesterday panned out.....

at 2.45pm, I took a small (10mg) dose to see how it worked as a low-dose pick-me-up and it worked quite nicely (I took 400mg of Piracetam, too, a little later in the day which may account for some of the effects). Things felt brighter, sharper - especially in the sun. I found myself more interested in people and things around me. People - of both sexes - seemed more interesting and more attractive; I found myself commenting out loud on billboards and shop signs and things around me (which isn't that abnormal for me anyway, but it seemed more noticeable).

There was a definite lift in mood. I'm not normally prone to depression (apart from during the winter, or in response to external events) but I do have a tendency to fret about things, and get caught up in mental negative-feedback loops (starting to obsess about niggling things and to be unable to let them go, like a small dog with a squeaky toy!) but yesterday I found I could let things go completely, which was nice. In some ways, I'd worry a little that *without* this fretfulness, I might find myself less motivated to get on a do stuff, but on the whole, it was a rather nice, calm, clear mindset.

Anyways, planning to go out in Leeds with some friends last night, two hours before I went I squizzed 30mg up my bum (the previous night's experiment involved a series of staggered 15mg doses, five of them spaced at 2-2.5hr intervals, which were nice but not earth-shattering). I was hoping that 30mg might hit my sweet spot. I had a glass of wine just before I left the house and another couple when I was out, along with a couple of spliffs during the evening.

The aMT didn't hit particularly hard - like a gentle MDMA roll. Less 'forced' and although I was chatty, the chattiness didn't have that earnest, driven feel to it that MDMA chattiness has. At about 1am (after being out since 9.30pm and having taken the aMT at 8pm) I decided to come home, and on the trip home began to feel decidedly drunk. I don't drink much, and the three glasses of wine seemed to have a disproportionately strong effect. By the time I got home, I was in a very nice headspace :) I was staggering a little - spilled wine on the stairs and then knocked over another glass on my desk - LOL. Chatted to a friend on Farcebook - and my typing was absolutely appalling. I felt drunk as a skunk!! Had a brilliant wank and then staggered off to bed and slept like a baby, waking up an hour or so ago feeling lovely.

So, in short - 30mg still feels like a too-low dose, but combined with alcohol (and the spliffs) it made me *very* drunk, but in a nice way. Has anyone else experienced this apparent potentiation of alcohol on aMT? (Or maybe it was the other way round...? It felt like the drunkenness was the predominant sensation at the end, rather than aMTness, but I have such little experience that it's hard to tell).

Tonight (yes, I know - another night of it.... Tsk!) I've promised to try it with a friend when we go out. I think I'll try 45mg of aMT and hold back on the wine. Does that sound like a reasonable next dose?

cheers m'dears

Mxx
 
Hello everybodies!

What a lovely place! I've spent the last four days reading as much as I can about AMT (I'm one of those 'research research research' people when it comes to new chems) and this morning received my first consignment of AMT. Although I ordered just 300mg, they've sent me - at no extra charge - a whopping 1.5g!! Blimey!!

Anyway... I'm a (worryingly) regular user of Mandy and (much less so cos it's lost its 'magic for me big time) methylone, as well as a happy joint-smoker, and don't have any experience of anything else at all, so I'm wanting to be cautious and sensible, particularly with my first trip. I'm looking more for the bright, loved-up, Mandyness than the trippy psychedelia - at least at the start until I get used to it.

So does an initial, rectal, dose of 20mg sound about right. I'm happy to drop it a bit for my first time if people think that's sensible, but - at least for the first time - I don't think I want to go any higher.

I have some scales that I really don't think are up to the job of measuring 20mg with any great accuracy, judging by the variability of weighing heavier objects, so how do people recommend I go about it? I have a fine, white powder with a sort of chemical smell, which - if I'm guessing right from all I've read - is probably the HCl. Does that sound right?

I thought of taking, say, half a g, dissolving it in water, and then squizzing a proportion of that up my bum, but I'm slightly worried that I'll be left with a lot in solution that might not keep until my next trip. Should I add some alcohol (vodka?) to help it keep?

What do people think?

Thanks in advance - I'm *soooo* looking forwards to this :))

Mark
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You ordered 300mg but got 1.5g? Sounds like maybe your scales are wrong? If it's the vendor I'm thinking of it way well be more like 600mg then sent.

As for dose, 20mg for a first try is recommended, but most people don't get the full effect until about 50mg. I put mine in gel caps, which can then either be taken orally or rectally.

Definitely try and get some decent scales though for getting the correct dosage of aMT. 0.001 scales ideally.
 
Hi Ugh!

Nope, definitely 1.5g! I checked by calibrating the scales and weighing it in a variety of combinations and amounts and every time it came out about the same. I have some 200mg capsules which, when full - according to the scales - do contain 200mg, so I don't think the scales can be out by much. I sent them an email and they said it was just a mistake but they were fine with it, which was nice. I've ordered some 0.001g scales but they've not arrived yet - when they do, I'll be able to check that I was right (or discover that I was wrong - LOL!)

15mg was nice and uplifting but not stunning; 30mg likewise. I'm going to try 45mg next, see where that takes me.

Mxx
 
Hi Ugh!

Nope, definitely 1.5g! I checked by calibrating the scales and weighing it in a variety of combinations and amounts and every time it came out about the same. I have some 200mg capsules which, when full - according to the scales - do contain 200mg, so I don't think the scales can be out by much. I sent them an email and they said it was just a mistake but they were fine with it, which was nice. I've ordered some 0.001g scales but they've not arrived yet - when they do, I'll be able to check that I was right (or discover that I was wrong - LOL!)

15mg was nice and uplifting but not stunning; 30mg likewise. I'm going to try 45mg next, see where that takes me.

Mxx

Fair enough. Lucky you. :)

You should see much better results with 45mg+.
 
Hello there peeps!

Thought I'd give you an update on how my psychonaut training in the USS aMT is going.

After the very pleasant - but not-at-all mindblowing - trial of two 30mg doses, two hours apart, I pushed it up to two 45mg doses, two hours apart again. And whilst it was definitely stronger than the previous time, it still didn't reach any sort of 'Whoooo!' for me. Again it was out in a social situation and then back home a couple of hours after the second dose had been taken. Had a few glasses of wine and a couple of spliffs during the evening, on both occasions, and I'm wondering if it could be the alcohol that's inhibiting the action of the aMT (or even the spliffs...?) It might just be that I've not hit my 'sweet spot' since different people seem to respond to different doses in very different ways.

Next time I'm going to push it up to 60mg and see what happens - how long after taking it do people think I should refrain from booze or spliffs before - assuming it doesn't do anything more than last time - I shrug my shoulders and pour a glass of wine or crack open a bottle of cider?

Mxx
 
I mixed aMT and booze at a party once and I got fuuuuucked up. Lots of extra ataxia. Slurring words intensely. Pretty funnny for everyone around me.
 
LOL! I didn't get quite that slurred but pretty wobbly and had trouble keeping my eyes open - and keeping them focussed was hard. Lots of double-vision - not impossible to focus but more effort than I was capable of putting in! :)

Mxx
 
I was rambling to people a lot about all kinds of things. It's really funny for me to think about now. I remember at one point my girlfriend called out to me from a distance, and I fell several steps in the direction away from her into a dead tree or telephone pole or something.
 
I'm on a small-ish dose of this now (around 25mg), and its erm, interesting.

Everything seems pretty funny, though is a somewhat sub-psychedelic dose.

I did plan to get some work done, but seem to be too easily distracted...
 
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