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Dissociatives The Big & Dandy Amanita Mushrooms Thread

I've had 2 grams of Amanita extract (supposedly equivalent to 30g raw material) in the fridge for over a year. Perhaps its time to give it a try.

For those with a Demoniod account, search for "soma shamans", and you will find a lofi but informative documentary and also a pdf on the use of amanita muscaria.

There is so much information on the importance of this mushroom throughout human history that I feel a full-blown amanita experience could be an invaluable and unique experience on the path of self discovery...

Everything I learned in life, I learned from "Super Mario Bros." :) The green and blue mushrooms give you an extra life and the red and white ones give you a power up. =D
 
morninggloryseed......yeah the sacred weeds programs were really good, shame they didnt make a second series and explore more entheogens.

I really like the amanita experience, cant wait for them to start popping up. I'll be heading off to a nice spot i discovered last year, in the next couple of weeks.

They give me such a serene floaty experience, mood enhancement, & the usual psychedelic colour & sound enhancements, almost a dreamlike experience really

Im hoping to pick myself a bumper crop this year :)
 
i tried these before, and all i could do was lay in bed, FREAK out, body got stiff as a board, sweating profusely, and i MADE myself go to sleep before i did something i would've regret.
 
They grow by one of my hangouts, should be popping up in a week or two. I have tried them a few times. Cold sweets, blurry vision kind of felt like I jumped out of bed to fast in the middle of the night half asleep and distorted. I have seen enough, I am done experimenting with these guys.
 
Are Amanita really considered psychedelic?

Only time I tried them, they were fresh but oven dried. Made for a sedating floaty headed drunken-like state.
 
You are obviously oblivious to the fact that the fly agaric is used as an entheogen by just as many people in Siberia as those who use psilocybe mushrooms in Mexico. That, and some of the earliest religions are centered around the use of this mushroom.

Of course it is a psychedelic (mind expanding).

CloudyHazeD said:
Are Amanita really considered psychedelic?

Only time I tried them, they were fresh but oven dried. Made for a sedating floaty headed drunken-like state.
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I admit, I am very ignorant when it comes to Amanita.

I did just pick up the book 'Soma: Divine Mushroom of Immortallity' by Wasson from a used book store yesterday, though :D

I believe the book will provide me some further insight, beyond my one lite dable of an experience with them, from which I based the previous post on........
 
morninggloryseed said:
FACINATING movie on Fly Agarics effects in humans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HhANOeD1I4&mode=related&search=

I am much more anxious to try them now. I collected several pounds a few summers ago and I might just give them a try soon.
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I too am anxious; well, keen to try them. They seem common eneough.... anyways, is there more to that documentary (obviously there is but-) does anyone have links to it?
 
CloudyHazeD said:
I admit, I am very ignorant when it comes to Amanita.

I did just pick up the book 'Soma: Divine Mushroom of Immortallity' by Wasson from a used book store yesterday, though :D

I believe the book will provide me some further insight, beyond my one lite dable of an experience with them, from which I based the previous post on........
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you found that book at a used book store? 8o lucky find

morninggloryseed, great find. i loved it when the psychiatrist brings out a bottle filled with muscimol
 
willow....all the parts are on youtube

just type 'sacred weeds fly agaric'

all the parts will come up

If people are picking them remember they need to be heat treated to convert the acid into muscimol & muscarine....gas mark 3 for 20 mins, baste the juices that leak out back onto the mushroom.

and obviously take care with Id'ing it
 
Yeah it is pretty nice music now you mention it.

Looking forward to the next couple of weeks, hopefully my spot will provide so good pickings this year. Going to take a little daytrip to a place where there are supposed to be loads of muscaria & hopefully stock up enough to last me until next season.
 
genaro said:
panther cap (amanita pantherina)are a bit more toxic than fly agaric mushrooms (amanita muscaria) because panther caps contain more muscarine (poisonous substance) than fly agaric (not much, meaning trace amounts, but enough to make your trip more uncomfortable, more hard on the body)
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From my experience and knowledge about both species on the west coast I can confidently say that the statement above is completely backwards for the west coast.

In my area Amanita pantherina is many times more psychedelic and much less toxic than Amanita muscaria. On the west coast, Amanita muscaria contains a lot more muscarine than Amanita pantherina, and Amanita pantherina contains many times more ibotenic acid than Amanita muscaria. I have tried both extensively and know what I am saying is accurate. But maybe they are different in your location. I have heard that the chemical makeup varies a lot by location.

I really like dried Amanita pantherina and very much dislike dried Amanita muscaria. I haven’t had any Amanita muscaria that didn’t make me feel sick. The psychedelic effects were very weak. Amanita pantherina never makes me feel sick. The effect is like psychedelic wine and it is very strong. I powder mine and take it in 0 sized gel capsules. It’s very potent, just a few capsules are enough for strong psychedelic effects.
 
Has anyone ever tried amanitas with a deleriant dose of dramamine, it seems like it could be the perfect combination. like ying and yang, counteracting each other negative effects while potentiating the psychedelic ones, this effect could also be achieved with datura but thats more risky. I know that a. muscaria was used to treat datura poisoning (or was it the other way around?) so i doubt the mixture is harmfull. Think about it one causes salivation, lacrimation, and mucus production, the other makes you dry as a bone, put the two togather and what do you get?
 
^Well datura is used in folk medicine to relieve amanita muscaria poisoning, but what your talking about would require the uptmost knowledge of the ways in which the anti-muscarine would affect the muscarine, what quanitites of what chemicals are in each preparation to effectively negate each other- and what I think you would get would be a shocking reaction or nothing. Probably a terrible idea.
 
It sounds like an interesting prospect, but you would really have to have a solid understanding of the doses received of each active chemical, as well as a way to calculate what doses were needed. Otherwise, it seems like you could either get a bad reaction or they would literally just cancel each other out.
 
Although its possible they could cancel one another out, I would guess it’s very unlikely as the primary psychedelic effects come from different receptors. Muscimol exerts its psychedelics effects on the GABAa receptor, and Dimenhydrinate at the Muscarinic acetylcholine receptor. Now we know that muscarine is a agonist of its own receptor, and Dimenhydrinate is an antagonist, muscarine is the unwanted active chemical in a. muscaria, so if any effects are canceled out it would most likely be the unpleasant ones caused by muscarine! Correct me if I'm wrong.

To step back from the receptor babble, and think about it from a purely symptomatic standpoint one makes you nauseous the other cures nausea, one makes you wet the other makes you dry etc. etc. I have found that unless they are competing for the same receptor in pharmacology opposites often attract.

Both drugs induce an oneiric, or dream like state. My main worry is whither or not I would be able to stay awake to see what happens. A. Muscaria by itself sent me into a deep sleep shortly after ingestion combined with 400mg of Dramamine and you would have a great soporific if nothing else.
 
willow11 said:
what your talking about would require the uptmost knowledge of the ways in which the anti-muscarine would affect the muscarine
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It’s a bit confusing but muscarine is not responsible for the psychedelic effects of a. muscaria, muscimol is. Since the primary effects of Dramamine are anti-muscarinic, and very little muscarine is present in a. muscaria (hopefully) the antagonist SHOULD easily overpower the agonist (if its even present in active quantities.) But then again I have never tried it. I would most likely start with a half an active dose of each and then boost after an hour if it was not sufficent/unpleasent.

Since you see so many "legal highs" cocktails, I'm surprised I haven’t read about this one yet.
 
Interesting idea, but it sounds like an easy short cut to utter delerium:\

proceed with much caution, but definitely keep us updated if you do decide to try it
 
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