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Phenethylamines The Big & Dandy Allylescaline Thread

ZFC said:
This compound was just placed on this list in Sweden. It does not mean it is illegal to possess, yet; as some compounds have been on this list waiting to be scheduled for 2 years (they're just overwhelmed by the new RCs and can't keep up the pace). On the other hand this means that if they can't arrest you, police and customs still may seize (...steal!) your legal goods and destroy them.
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Jeez they nailed all the good stuff!
 
This is what i don't get.
mescaline is a rather uncomfortable PEA for the initial come up.
Allylescaline, i find alot like 4-aco-dmt, almost un-noticeable until a high dose is taken.

I know MAL is available, can anyone in the AL board make a comparative to how it is vs MAL
I'm interested in getting several grams, and i want the one that resembles mescaline the most.

Proscaline to me, was just... devoid of character...
AL is like 4-aco-dmt
MAL sounds appealing. But it could have nasty side effects.
CPM i think is where it is at.
 
I actually found out I still have like 30-40mg of this stuff left in my stash box that I forgot about. Might have to plug that as an experiment. Doesn't seem like that ROA has been thoroughly explored. And if it's not that strong, I have plans for a massive combo trip. I could use that Allylescaline dose as a platform to high dive into a 4-AcO-MET & MXE trip ;)
 
Soul137 said:
I actually found out I still have like 30-40mg of this stuff left in my stash box that I forgot about. Might have to plug that as an experiment. Doesn't seem like that ROA has been thoroughly explored. And if it's not that strong, I have plans for a massive combo trip. I could use that Allylescaline dose as a platform to high dive into a 4-AcO-MET & MXE trip ;)
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As someone with experience with AL and 4-AcO-MET (thought not combined) I agree with the combo plan. I combined it with 4-AcO-DMT though.
 
I have done that combo as well. But in low doses of both. Like 50mg AL oral and then 10mg 4-AcO-DMT insufflated at around t+2:00 This would be a much more— shall we say 'balls deep?' experience.
 
I tried Allylescaline only one time last New Years Eve combined with 4-aco-dmt. If I recall it was 50mg Ally & 30mg 4-aco-dmt. I remember having rediculous fine muscle tremors throughout the experience. It was actually a bit embarrassing trying to take a ciggarette out because my hand was shaking so bad. During the peak I recall being really impressed with how the Ally bumped up the 4-aco-dmt visuals. I felt like Allylescaline was kind of boring on its own but got very interesting after downing the 4-aco-dmt. This stuff is probably best combined with a tryptamine. I wonder how safe this stuff would be with MDMA? My guy instinct says probably not.
 
TheRapperGoneBad said:
Saw this for sale a lil while back. I think I'd rather have some mescaline.
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Synthetic or extracted. Or the brew lol? Allyescaline is fucking fun at low doses and lasts for ages. Indeed the come down is gradual but looong lasting. It's gentle at low doses and mixes well with low dose 2ce. Mesc really ain't all that mind fuck unless you do a lot of it. 400 mg at least of hcl crystal extracted probably 90% pure (good enough in my book and I can't be assed doing more purification). Yellowish/brown crystals. Usually skin say 2-3 foot of cacti for maybe a gram of rough extracted HCL salt in the end. Probably shit tek but meh...

Allyesc I find no drama up to say 40-50 mgs up your nose. Burns worse than most 2cs though. Never done more than 50 mg snorted up me nose and fuck did it hurt but it got me to a nice place that was worth the pain IMO. Unlike real mesc I do not puke. Even crystal extract mesc makes me purge at least a bit. Never come across synthetic mescaline that was the genuine article. Funny as fuck have not seen this thread before and I was just ranting about cacti juice. Been ages since I had the pleasure of "Hellyescaline". Note psychedelics do not need to bring about profound revelations or deep spiritual experiences or all that other tossy bullshit, some are just fun.
 
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Ballz_Trippington said:
I tried Allylescaline only one time last New Years Eve combined with 4-aco-dmt. If I recall it was 50mg Ally & 30mg 4-aco-dmt. I remember having rediculous fine muscle tremors throughout the experience. It was actually a bit embarrassing trying to take a ciggarette out because my hand was shaking so bad. During the peak I recall being really impressed with how the Ally bumped up the 4-aco-dmt visuals. I felt like Allylescaline was kind of boring on its own but got very interesting after downing the 4-aco-dmt. This stuff is probably best combined with a tryptamine. I wonder how safe this stuff would be with MDMA? My guy instinct says probably not.
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My experience combining with 4-AcO-DMT suggests the same thing. And Bloodshed seems to agree as well. Perhaps this chem has a future after all as a mixer. I wonder how it would do with LSD which is about equal length.
 
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Psychonautical said:
Proscaline to me, was just... devoid of character...
AL is like 4-aco-dmt
MAL sounds appealing. But it could have nasty side effects.
CPM i think is where it is at.
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Hmm I hear proscaline is still quite euphoric and recreational though. I still have some to try but it seems like my very modest sample dried up a bit without me sampling it, I'll have to see if there is even a dose there.
Anyway what I really wanted to say is isoproscaline sounds better than CPM so I think they should make that. Seems about equally difficult to synth.

Ballz_Trippington said:
I tried Allylescaline only one time last New Years Eve combined with 4-aco-dmt. If I recall it was 50mg Ally & 30mg 4-aco-dmt. I remember having rediculous fine muscle tremors throughout the experience. It was actually a bit embarrassing trying to take a ciggarette out because my hand was shaking so bad. During the peak I recall being really impressed with how the Ally bumped up the 4-aco-dmt visuals. I felt like Allylescaline was kind of boring on its own but got very interesting after downing the 4-aco-dmt. This stuff is probably best combined with a tryptamine. I wonder how safe this stuff would be with MDMA? My guy instinct says probably not.
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Soul137 said:
My experience combining with 4-AcO-DMT suggests the same thing. And Bloodshed seems to agree as well. Perhaps this chem has a future after all as a mixer. I wonder how it would do with LSD which are about equal length.
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The tremors don't sound too appealing though, was it the allylescaline, the 4-AcO-DMT or the combination you think?


lovepsychadelics said:
Synthetic or extracted. Or the brew lol? Allyescaline is fucking fun at low doses and lasts for ages. Indeed the come down is gradual but looong lasting. It's gentle at low doses and mixes well with low dose 2ce. Mesc really ain't all that mind fuck unless you do a lot of it. 400 mg at least of hcl crystal extracted probably 90% pure (good enough in my book and I can't be assed doing more purification). Yellowish/brown crystals. Usually skin say 2-3 foot of cacti for maybe a gram of rough extracted HCL salt in the end. Probably shit tek but meh...

Allyesc I find no drama up to say 40-50 mgs up your nose. Burns worse than most 2cs though. Never done more than 50 mg snorted up me nose and fuck did it hurt but it got me to a nice place that was worth the pain IMO. Unlike real mesc I do not puke. Even crystal extract mesc makes me purge at least a bit. Never come across synthetic mescaline that was the genuine article. Funny as fuck have not seen this thread before and I was just ranting about cacti juice. Been ages since I had the pleasure of "Hellyescaline". Note psychedelics do not need to bring about profound revelations or deep spiritual experiences or all that other tossy bullshit, some are just fun.
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I threw up with 2 different types of synthetic mescaline so you probably won't find the solution in further purification or anything..
 
I wonder if the nausea is due to 5HT3 agonism, in that case I could be blocked by Ondansetron or Ginger..
 
I'm pretty sure all the tremors were caused by te Ally, 4-aco-dmt has never given me any shakes. It should be noted that I was the only one in our research group to get the tremors. But I'm telling you it was like I had advanced Parkinson's or something during that trip my hands and legs were just trembling for hours. I had NO other negative side effects and as bad as those muscle tremors were it hasn't stopped me from wanting to try it again. Also, the Ally/ 4-aco-dmt combo so utterly magnificent (except for the shakes) really impressive visuals at the peak that were nothing like the typical 4-aco- dmt visuals.
 
I had tremors and other body troubles on this chem. Granted that was at 70mg. But I definitely felt like (for lack of a better description) there was a chemical pulsing , electrically charged, in my whole body.
 
I never went past 50mg with this substance, was honestly disappointed.
Would be nice for a buzz but there isn't even enough of a mental high for it to be worth being up for 10-12 hours
 
.:Holy::Toast:. said:
I never went past 50mg with this substance, was honestly disappointed.
Would be nice for a buzz but there isn't even enough of a mental high for it to be worth being up for 10-12 hours
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That's pretty much why I haven't tried it yet.... although it seems like it would go quite well with MXE or ketamine, alone it doesn't seem to be anything special.
 
I've been thinking of making a purchase just as a platform for amazing combos for quite some time now, kinda like how I use aMT but these reports of tremors are keeping me away, especially with the main combo that got me interested (psilacetin/AL). Will magnesium or low dose benzos be effective in cutting down these tremors? I'd like to not feel like I'm on the verge of a seizure for 10+ hours...
 
I've had nearly identical tremors in my legs from 4-ho-mipt and 4-aco-dipt. The only real difference on the Allywas I had the shakes in my hands as well. It was kinda embarrassing but it was not so bad that I won't ever try it again. I'm actually looking forward to it but it would very infrequent. No one wants to a jittery mofo while their tripping balls if they can help it.
 
You got similar tremors from iprocin and miprocin alone or with the AL combo? The only 4-sub thay gave me tremors was 4-ho-det and while they weren't intense they added to the paranoia and made the already lacking trip downright uncomfortable. Don't strong tremors indicate that your seizure threshold has been lowered? I honestly fet that if I would've smoked a ciggarette on that 4-ho-det trip I would've seized. If so I figure that a low dose benzo may bring the seizure threshold back up while the magnesium gets rid of the tension. Idk, I still might pick it up within the next couple paychecks and do some combo experiments after a single 40mg AL trip.
 
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