The Big & Dandy ALD-52 Thread

[ddrreeff]

300-UG is my favorite dose for now... I am finding that I do like this much better (Now) than LSD. Still, LSD has its place.

ALD-52 is fucking Amazing, Just had my second experiment with this molecule took 300ug and had a blast, i mean you can literally feel like going iiiiiinnnn and out of the depths of your mind without even noticing, which is why i would really recommend this molecule over sister molecule, Smooth as Silk yet deep but no maniac thoughts or forced introspection.

From my experience with ALD-52, I have the feeling that such statements could be misleading or even harmful to people who haven't tried it yet. I took 125 ug tabs on two separate occasions, and I was totally blown out. I would never consider taking more than this. I am rather experienced with 1p-LSD and AL-LAD, and I found these ALD-52 tabs incredibly strong. Last time I took it was during a music festival with two friends who also dropped 125 ug. We all had a very intense and difficult come up, being around people was incredibly challenging and could have turned to a real nightmare if we weren't experienced with such things. During most of the trip we were totally unable to do simple things such as rolling cigarettes or using our cell phones. In the end we had a great time, but I think people should be wary with this one.

 

[Xorkoth]

They are laid consistently i seriously doubt they have time to drop every blotter when they are making 20,000 at a time. These sheets have been soaked.
Mircodosing ald-52 has been documented successfully quite a few times on here so dont let the size of these awesome squares get you down brother!

Yeah the sheets are definitely soaked, they are not dropping on each one. You can tell because the edges of the sheets are a bit discolored. So they should be evenly distributed.

 

[someguy]

They are laid consistently i seriously doubt they have time to drop every blotter when they are making 20,000 at a time. These sheets have been soaked.
Mircodosing ald-52 has been documented successfully quite a few times on here so dont let the size of these awesome squares get you down brother!

That's the answer I was hoping for. Thanks man

 

[perpetualdawn]

It's very interesting that while there is debate on whether LSD or ALD-52 is the winner, there is agreement on the nature of their difference - everyone who has compared here and found a difference seems to say ALD-52 is less manic, more smooth than LSD.

I assumed that ALD-52 would be indistiguishable from LSD because of it being a prodrug, but with this much agreement on them being a bit different, and the fact that everyone is agreeing on how they are different, it makes me reconsider. Still yet to try myself.

 

[Xorkoth]

I think the prodrug being exactly the same as the parent drug thing is out the window, at least for me, at least for many examples. 4-AcO-DMT/4-HO-DMT was the case that really made me realize this. For some they seem pretty identical but I got to try both in pure form and I find them greatly different, two separate drugs 9though their ends are very similar). I am absolutely sure I could immediately tell the difference every time in a blind test, the nature of their first stages is very different for me. This experience got me realizing that just because something is a prodrug doesn't necessary mean it doesn't have an effect of its own, or that differences in absorption rates/etc would not render the effects noticeable and reliably different.

 

[Wesley reynolds]

How does soaking sheet work? How does that allow there to be even proportion of a measurable dose of ALD-52 on the tabs?

 

[lysergamide]

I think the prodrug being exactly the same as the parent drug thing is out the window, at least for me, at least for many examples. 4-AcO-DMT/4-HO-DMT was the case that really made me realize this. For some they seem pretty identical but I got to try both in pure form and I find them greatly different, two separate drugs 9though their ends are very similar). I am absolutely sure I could immediately tell the difference every time in a blind test, the nature of their first stages is very different for me. This experience got me realizing that just because something is a prodrug doesn't necessary mean it doesn't have an effect of its own, or that differences in absorption rates/etc would not render the effects noticeable and reliably different.

+1 no way these pro-drug versions are the same as the originals, they always seem to be very similar but have their own unique touches. Doesn't seem to be one set way either, as with some it's a completely different comeup, others it's completely different effects for the entire duration. I know so many people that love shrooms but hate 4-aco-dmt. Likewise I don't think much of 1p-LSD in comparison to normal LSD, but if it was all I knew I'm sure I'd still enjoy it. I look forward to more pro drugs in the future though, always fun to try

 

[Toltec]

I certainly would not go into public taking 300 ug of LSD or ALD. Maybe 75 to 100ug. Still, THAT IS QUESTIONABLE... FOR ME.

People that come to BL should alway read the whole thread especially NEWBIES to psychedelics; so that they understand the dynamics of these drugs, Sacraments or whatever one evolution in life, a person takes or forced to. There is always a slightly different viewpoint here.
.. everyone reacts differently especially in the set and setting one has picked for them selfs.

It is clear to me that a person's beliefs, religion and everything else that makes them unique, is why so many variables in a trip exist, why good trips and bad ones occur. It's that ego of yours is constantly wondering or worrying.. about something.

This drug is very personal to me and NO ONE will have the same experience as me.. or you the reader. That's an impossibility.

Again: I like higher doses.. 300ug what puts me just over the edge, If I fall off the edge... good, I'll ride out. I certainly learn a lot there on the edge.

A Rule of thumb 4 Newbies.
Always dose low, don't let your big dick friends talk you into anything that your intuition tells you otherwise.

 

[stanleyK]

I tried a low/mid dose of ald-50 (=100µg). And I was positively surprised. Normally 1 tab of lsd gives me a sub par experience with mainly a body load.
With ald I had a nice effect without the body load. Nothing overwhelming but no negative effect I get with a similar dose of lsd. Interesting.

 

[MocCozmiK]

I think the prodrug being exactly the same as the parent drug thing is out the window, at least for me, at least for many examples. 4-AcO-DMT/4-HO-DMT was the case that really made me realize this. For some they seem pretty identical but I got to try both in pure form and I find them greatly different, two separate drugs 9though their ends are very similar). I am absolutely sure I could immediately tell the difference every time in a blind test, the nature of their first stages is very different for me. This experience got me realizing that just because something is a prodrug doesn't necessary mean it doesn't have an effect of its own, or that differences in absorption rates/etc would not render the effects noticeable and reliably different.

I have never had 4-HO-DMT that I know of. But the last batch of 4-aco-dmt was identical to the psilocybin cubensis mushrooms that I recently found a week or so back.
So I am not sure if the 4-aco-dmt degraded into 4-ho-dmt or if that's even possible.

As far as the ALD-52 I am waiting for my tolerance to go down before trying.

How does ALD-52 compare with AL-LAD? For some reason I had a weird come up with AL-LAD. I have heard mostly good about it. But the come up was long, and my skin felt weird. I was about to abort the trip when after 2 hours I started feeling somewhat better but not really. And the visuals were just not there. So I am hoping for better results with ALD-52

 

[white55]

ald-52 is much closer to lsd/1p-lsd than to al-lad so not very much

 

[StMorningGlory]

It is clear to me that a person's beliefs, religion and everything else that makes them unique, is why so many variables in a trip exist, why good trips and bad ones occur. It's that ego of yours is constantly wondering or worrying.. about something.

This drug is very personal to me and NO ONE will have the same experience as me.. or you the reader. That's an impossibility.

You sounds like Huxley with Mescaline.
I agree that it's one that seems to just "fit" in me. I stopped taking my mirtazapine about a month ago and started microdosing only and my life has had some significant improvements. No withdrawl either...

"4-aco-dmt was identical to the psilocybin cubensis mushrooms" I find that suspicions because there are more chemicals in the mushrooms than just 4-HO-DMT so that would be odd that that's all you felt. That's like saying synthetic mescaline and cactus felt the same. Obviously I can't argue with your observations but I find it curious.

 

[Boognish]

I'm currently coming up on 225ug, and things are very similar to a 1P come up. But yeah, to the above poster, I find 4-aco-DMT remarkably different than p.cubensis. maybe my body chemistry is different, but psilacetin felt really like a generic factory version of some good ole caps! YMMV

 

[MocCozmiK]

You sounds like Huxley with Mescaline.
I agree that it's one that seems to just "fit" in me. I stopped taking my mirtazapine about a month ago and started microdosing only and my life has had some significant improvements. No withdrawl either...

"4-aco-dmt was identical to the psilocybin cubensis mushrooms" I find that suspicions because there are more chemicals in the mushrooms than just 4-HO-DMT so that would be odd that that's all you felt. That's like saying synthetic mescaline and cactus felt the same. Obviously I can't argue with your observations but I find it curious.

My first few times doing shrooms, before I ever had 4-aco-dmt I was sure I could feel there was difference. It was only this last time doing them not to long ago, that I felt they felt identical. The way my body felt. I got no nausea on the shrooms. And a few of my fingers lock up funny on 4-aco-dmt and that happened that on the shrooms. I really felt that particular recent shroom experience was identical to 4-aco-dmt.

I don't know why. Or how to explain it

 

[StMorningGlory]

My first few times doing shrooms, before I ever had 4-aco-dmt I was sure I could feel there was difference. It was only this last time doing them not to long ago, that I felt they felt identical. The way my body felt. I got no nausea on the shrooms. And a few of my fingers lock up funny on 4-aco-dmt and that happened that on the shrooms. I really felt that particular recent shroom experience was identical to 4-aco-dmt.

I don't know why. Or how to explain it

That sounds like you are just imagining a connection between the two because you know chemical structures are similar.

 

[harycary]

okay well lets get back on track, back to the topic if you please, b the way for anybody wanderng about the good old days and sandoz and such look up lisa bierbern an original psychedelic explorer and enthusiast , she was tim learys assistant look that up spelling her last name a little wrong but she put out some really good prparation manuels for set and setting, she eventually got busted for sending it thru the mail on sugar cubes seems like that was the thing back then, also a good one is beyond the within documentary internet, showing college kids in the dorms painting on the walls about love and oher philosophical things, they also showed them take it because it was still legal this was in 1966, they interviewd them after tripping, the girl is speaking in a strange way she keeps trying to get the interviewer to admit " he knows all about it" while he guy and girl in the background are laying on the bed she is rubbing his chest, he is playing with the dog, he has a beard and you get the sense they have that close communal behaviour that was spoken about from the pure lsd they used to have, their personality has probably already been altered somewhat , because if this was the 50s, they would not be laying together, he probably woudlnt have the beard, but woud be more respectful of the company in the room, but as the drug has altered sense of responsibility and given them a slight social withdrawal, remember this was pure sandoz, this was not even owsleys. imagine this.

 

[Ineffable14]

okay well lets get back on track, back to the topic if you please, b the way for anybody wanderng about the good old days and sandoz and such look up lisa bierbern an original psychedelic explorer and enthusiast , she was tim learys assistant look that up spelling her last name a little wrong but she put out some really good prparation manuels for set and setting, she eventually got busted for sending it thru the mail on sugar cubes seems like that was the thing back then, also a good one is beyond the within documentary internet, showing college kids in the dorms painting on the walls about love and oher philosophical things, they also showed them take it because it was still legal this was in 1966, they interviewd them after tripping, the girl is speaking in a strange way she keeps trying to get the interviewer to admit " he knows all about it" while he guy and girl in the background are laying on the bed she is rubbing his chest, he is playing with the dog, he has a beard and you get the sense they have that close communal behaviour that was spoken about from the pure lsd they used to have, their personality has probably already been altered somewhat , because if this was the 50s, they would not be laying together, he probably woudlnt have the beard, but woud be more respectful of the company in the room, but as the drug has altered sense of responsibility and given them a slight social withdrawal, remember this was pure sandoz, this was not even owsleys. imagine this.

What?

 

[Bigazznugz]

okay well lets get back on track, back to the topic if you please, b the way for anybody wanderng about the good old days and sandoz and such look up lisa bierbern an original psychedelic explorer and enthusiast , she was tim learys assistant look that up spelling her last name a little wrong but she put out some really good prparation manuels for set and setting, she eventually got busted for sending it thru the mail on sugar cubes seems like that was the thing back then, also a good one is beyond the within documentary internet, showing college kids in the dorms painting on the walls about love and oher philosophical things, they also showed them take it because it was still legal this was in 1966, they interviewd them after tripping, the girl is speaking in a strange way she keeps trying to get the interviewer to admit " he knows all about it" while he guy and girl in the background are laying on the bed she is rubbing his chest, he is playing with the dog, he has a beard and you get the sense they have that close communal behaviour that was spoken about from the pure lsd they used to have, their personality has probably already been altered somewhat , because if this was the 50s, they would not be laying together, he probably woudlnt have the beard, but woud be more respectful of the company in the room, but as the drug has altered sense of responsibility and given them a slight social withdrawal, remember this was pure sandoz, this was not even owsleys. imagine this.

Looks like you ate a whole vial of sandoz acid with that ramble. Rofl

 

[Img_9999]

okay well lets get back on track, back to the topic if you please, b the way for anybody wanderng about the good old days and sandoz and such look up lisa bierbern an original psychedelic explorer and enthusiast , she was tim learys assistant look that up spelling her last name a little wrong but she put out some really good prparation manuels for set and setting, she eventually got busted for sending it thru the mail on sugar cubes seems like that was the thing back then, also a good one is beyond the within documentary internet, showing college kids in the dorms painting on the walls about love and oher philosophical things, they also showed them take it because it was still legal this was in 1966, they interviewd them after tripping, the girl is speaking in a strange way she keeps trying to get the interviewer to admit " he knows all about it" while he guy and girl in the background are laying on the bed she is rubbing his chest, he is playing with the dog, he has a beard and you get the sense they have that close communal behaviour that was spoken about from the pure lsd they used to have, their personality has probably already been altered somewhat , because if this was the 50s, they would not be laying together, he probably woudlnt have the beard, but woud be more respectful of the company in the room, but as the drug has altered sense of responsibility and given them a slight social withdrawal, remember this was pure sandoz, this was not even owsleys. imagine this.

Yeah, back to topic indeed !

 

[Wesley reynolds]

Sandoz, owsley, pickard, Hoffman, etc....I don't get it, if the acid is pure, it's pure, right? Why does it matter who made it, or the process in which its made. Amber, fluff blah blah blah blah, is there really a difference here, or are people just being superstitious?