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The Big & Dandy ALD-52 Thread

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I agree, I often see that dose recommended to people for a microdose and I find it to be border line tripping. I'll cut up a tab in 1/8s and do it that way, so around 12ug. That's my sweet spot
 
When you microdose, is it every day? If so, I don't think you would feel 25ug after a few days of dosing. Wouldn't you think, considering there is a tolerance buildup.
 
Yeah that's why I'd use 25 to 37.5 each day. Best pain relief ever. Super creative. I can't say enough good about it.
 
If you're planning on doing consecutive days, starting at 12-15ugs is perfect for most people I know who have tried it, including me. And then of course increasing because of tolerance. I find it more special using it sparingly though :)
 
Long thread and it's probably already been posted but ALD-52 was what Nick Sand was making back in the late 60s and early 70s. The BEL was distributing it under the name Orange Sunshine. It's legendary and I can tell you from experience... it is GOOD. Sand and his lawyers used the fact that it was ALD-52and not LSD-25 as a defense but it didn't work then... HOWEVER, if you are not making it, not selling it, if you're minding your own business you have VERY little chance of getting in any trouble. Theoretically, you could but you wont.
It's the real deal.
You should get some while you can, the 1P sounds interesting too. Someone online sells a sample pack of 5 doses of 5 different LSD analogs. Look for that, you'll have enough to start slow and enough to blow it out if you like it. They come in 100 and150μg doses but remember, Sandoz doses were 100μg, though sometimes as many as 15 were administered by doctors, normally 3 to 5 though. Owsley Stanley tried to make his doses 278μg. He thought that was the magic dose but Owsley had his ideas abut everything!
ALD-52 for sale online is exciting but don't expect it to last.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Sand bottom line before the links... ALD-52... 1972. Orange Sunshine! Yep!
 
jbow said:
Long thread and it's probably already been posted but ALD-52 was what Nick Sand was making back in the late 60s and early 70s. The BEL was distributing it under the name Orange Sunshine. It's legendary and I can tell you from experience... it is GOOD. Sand and his lawyers used the fact that it was ALD-52and not LSD-25 as a defense but it didn't work then... HOWEVER, if you are not making it, not selling it, if you're minding your own business you have VERY little chance of getting in any trouble. Theoretically, you could but you wont.
It's the real deal.
You should get some while you can, the 1P sounds interesting too. Someone online sells a sample pack of 5 doses of 5 different LSD analogs. Look for that, you'll have enough to start slow and enough to blow it out if you like it. They come in 100 and150μg doses but remember, Sandoz doses were 100μg, though sometimes as many as 15 were administered by doctors, normally 3 to 5 though. Owsley Stanley tried to make his doses 278μg. He thought that was the magic dose but Owsley had his ideas abut everything!
ALD-52 for sale online is exciting but don't expect it to last.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Sand bottom line before the links... ALD-52... 1972. Orange Sunshine! Yep!
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Probably juse a faked defense. Sands has made mention of it just being lsd. We talked about this earlier in the thread.
 
Is the dosage of ALD-52 equivalent to that of LSD or 1p-LSD? Some people seem to say it's more potent.
 
Yes definitely more potent for me.
My sweet spot for street tabs is between 2 and 3 tabs. For 1p is 3 tabs. 2 tabs of ald is just fine for me.
 
"Orange sunshine" has since gone on record was in fact LSD-25 his best purity and "blessed" crystal exactly 300ug.

ALD to 1P or LSD is the same potency, some will argue minorly weaker, but I don't know in what world you would consider it a good bit stronger? It may produce the illusion of being more potent because it's more comfortable and you're finally getting what you need out of trips. It's actually 90% of the potency of LSD.

ALD-52 will only hyrdolyse in the presence of acid or base, you can keep it stable in ethanol solution and to me ALD is a night and day difference of an experience comparing to LSD-25 or its close counterpart 1P, so different it has became my drug of choice, I won't ever take LSD25 again if I have the option of ALD-52 but everyone has their preferences, ALD in general comparing to 1P or LSD is going to have easier sleep on the tail end, toned back stimulation, no body load or intense vasoconstriction, no anxious come up, no manic thought patterns also reduced risk for a psychotic episode.

It's basically all the good of LSD without any of the bad. I describe it as a more comfortable LSD, allows you full control and ease of body tension and anxiety, visuals are only minorly reduced.(And no the general experience is not altered like AL-LAD is, it's still good Ole LSD, just a lot better and safer version!) Great substance.

I have a hunch that ego dissolution is much easier on this substance, as I usually lay down and melt and become the forest, it's so comfortable the sensation it gives off is just becoming one with it all there's no distraction in the mind like LSD the crazy manic thought patterns, the distraction of the overwhelming uncomfortable body load, it's all gone, it's just pure lysergic bliss. 200ug would have me in deep revelations and total ego death.(the thoughts that come are clear, and a calm stream from the subconscious) and no it doesn't just sound this good, ALD is this good.
 
I think people find it more potent because everyone always thinks their LSD tabs are higher dosed than they are pretty much. Dark net tabs often advertise at 150-250ug per hit... someone a while back got a bunch of different ones and sent them all to a lab to be tested and most were coming back as 40-60ug... I think there were some 250 tabs that were coming back 80-120ug. A few actually were as advertised. But the ALD-52 is actually 125ug per hit. People are taking 2-3 tabs of what they think is 150ug or whatever of LSD, and they're actually 60 each or something, so ALD-52 seems stronger.

Basically, unless you get your LSD lab tested, you really don't know.
 
I'd have to agree that ALD is about 90% the potency of LSD mcg for mcg. I ended up taking 375ug last weekend to get where I wanted to be, and found it to be closest to LSD out of all the lysergamides. I guess that I get a kick out of LSD being more uncomfortable or tough as some have posted - so maybe that's why I find ALD lacking by about 10% vs LSD.
 
What do you think explains people saying ald-52 is smoother than 1p, if the groups attached both simply act to slow down the release of the lsd onto the receptors. Why would 1p be considered more manic and ald-52 more smooth? What would the headspace be any different if they are inevitably lsd after released?
 
This is with nicotine, so it doesn't necessarily translate. But with it, the speed and intervals with which it is absorbed affects the experience due to different modulations of ion channels (or something like that, it's on wikipedia I think) depending on if short, quick, and rapidly repeated inhales are taken or long deep drags are. Short inhalations lead to a more stimulant effect while long deep drags lead to a more relaxing and depressive action. It could be that the rate at which each is converted/metabolized affects how certain receptors are modulated, leading to a difference in effects.
 
Anyone tried this for daily microdosing? (10-20ug)
Ive been feeling that i should try a micro dose strategy of lsd for awhile.

I have a sheet each of both, though the more mellow character of ald-52 makes me seem its a better candidate for me.
 
Bitchniggaz said:
Anyone tried this for daily microdosing? (10-20ug)
Ive been feeling that i should try a micro dose strategy of lsd for awhile.

I have a sheet each of both, though the more mellow character of ald-52 makes me seem its a better candidate for me.
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Yup, you shold check out the 5 pages leading up to this.
 
StMorningGlory said:
Yup, you shold check out the 5 pages leading up to this.
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Thanks, i have been scrolling the pages and seen it mentioned.
I was just hopoing that someone had done a longer trial and had a finished protocol.
I guess i need to be the that person.


Anyway, i cut up 2 tabs of 100ug each into 9 squarres each.
They are def not in the exact size so my guess they are 8-12ug each give or take.

I took a medium sized hit and went on with my routine, i timed it with my morning dose of coffee and some nootropics and adaptogens.
I felt it quite fast and had a great day, def cognitive enhancement and emotional stability improvements.
However i could feel at times that i was on a drug and tripping out with a slightly sense of bodyload.


Now about 10hours after dosing i feel good, i smoked some hash, which at first enhanced the micro dose quite a bit.
However now i feel more stoned then on any psych, but i still have some minor visuals and color enhancement.
Im giving this at least a week to see if the dose was too high or if tolerance kicks in and takes away all the trippy aspects.


Im seriously doing this to improve a certain part of my life, im not putting too much hope in it but its worth a shot.
Ive done micro dosing before with harmalas and amanita mushrooms so i have some experience with a similar protocol.

This is however my first attempt at a serotonin linked molecule in lower doses, ive tripped alot but never at low doses.
 
1/8th of a 100ug blotter, or the 125ug blotters? First time I tried microdosing ALD-52 it was about 1/6th-1/7th of a tab (14ug-17ug) & I did find it quite strong compared to LSD at 14ug-17ug in terms of the euphoria & minor visual distortions. However I definitely wasn't tripping.

Also, oddly I didn't find upping the microdose with ALD-52 from 15ug+\- to 30ug or so to have much difference in effect. However, with LSD 20ug is about as high I can dose without it becoming too psychedelic for the things I microdose for (creativity enhancment, anti-depressant, anti-addiction properties, social lubricant, ect).
25ug-30ug of LSD and threshold psychedelia is strong enough that it's obvious that I'm not sober.

With ALD-52, any dose between 10ug-35ug or so feels exactly the same. Threshold psychedelia present around 40ug-50ug with ALD-52.
So in general I actually find LSD more suited for microdosing, although I'd originally thought ALD-52 would be a better alternative for this as well.

Sorry for rambling. Blame Amphetamines.
 
I gave up the microdose after day 2.
The effects were just to pronounced at that dose. (8-12ug)
I felt good but i didnt feel comfortable doing it with my kid etc.

Im getting a bottle with very diluted lsd to try för microdosing instead.
Im making it at just 5ug or so.
Should be weak enough to titrate to a low threshold dose that has the nootropic effects without the trippy part.
 
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