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Lysergamides The Big & Dandy AL-LAD Thread - Part 3

Fagott said:
Seriously, any one taking AL-LAD, 1-P-LSD, ETH-LAD dosed on premade blotters have absolutely no idea how much they are taking.

The blotters aren't evenly laid, even on the same sheet. That's the whole point. Two adjacent blotters can easily absorb a 50-100 ug difference by accident. In my opinion. It's very small quantities we are talking about here, and you would need to spray it on, or place single drops with a micropipette to get totally exact doses per blotter. Using soaking, which must be how the official blotters are laid as it's the only viable method for massproduction, will always cause hot/weak spots.

I am completely sure that if you have the powder, and use a laboratory grade ug scale and volumetric dosing, then you won't get as big a variability in potency as people are finding with these novel lysergamides. Obviously, set, setting and internal body chemistry is also factors, but uneven distribution is in my opinion the biggest culprit.

Don't get me wrong, most of the blotters are approxemately the same strength, but some are clearly weaker, and some clearly stronger, even on the same sheet.
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Yeah seriously I would love to have powder but it's very damn expensive.... I don't think the blotters of AL-LAD i had are bunk, because I tripped from them and they are from 2013...

I think I didn't trip of 225µg was due to the pyrazolam I took (1.5mg which is considered to be a strong dose) and the fact I haven't wait longer to trip again...


On a side note, how long should someone wait before able to feel full effects? 7 days or 14 days ?

Thank you again tho <3
 
lamanogaucha said:
@ Bassoon - In your opinion, is that the norm or the exception?
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I really have no way of knowing :) I mean, more data would definitely be needed to make such an estimate. I think most of the blotters contains approxemately the same amount. But how many contains more or less enough to make a difference, I don't know. Of cause, tolerance and other drugs like benzo's ingested before, as in Kishka's case, can also be a factor. I just think that it's obvious that when laying 1000s and 1000s of blotters by soaking and drying sheets, some of them will end up with an uneven amount.

I just want to make it clear that I'm not blaming the people that are laying the blotters. Using anything else than soaking for massproduction would be imposible. And I'm really grateful that they have given us a chance to try these novel lysergamides. Thank you, who ever you are :)
 
I'm inclined to agree with pretty much everything that you've been saying. It's all very reasonable. My guesstimate is that the average mass-produced sheet will contain tabs with deviations of up to +/- 15%, but most of them are within +/- 10%.
 
I've been doing a sloppy and informal experiment to see how much AL-LAD degrades.

I have some AL-LAD tabs that I've had lying around at room temperature for over a year now. Most of the time they've been wrapped in tinfoil, and then nestled in some dry rice kernels in a sealed container, so they've been kept mostly dry and dark, but not cold. I've been playing around with micro-doses of these here and there over the year. The other day I dosed an aprox. 30µg slice of blotter, and it had what I reckon is the same level of threshold activity that I noticed about a year ago when these tabs were brand new.

I think AL-LAD is pretty stable if it's kept dry and in the dark. There was talk some time ago that this molecule is fragile and more prone to degradation than LSD, but as far as I can tell there's nothing in particular to worry about with AL-LAD. Let's hope the same goes for ETH-LAD!
 
Yeah, the vendor itself tell that AL-LAD could last decades even 50 years... I have mine since 2013 and they are still potent :)
 
perpetualdawn said:
I've been doing a sloppy and informal experiment to see how much AL-LAD degrades.

I have some AL-LAD tabs that I've had lying around at room temperature for over a year now. Most of the time they've been wrapped in tinfoil, and then nestled in some dry rice kernels in a sealed container, so they've been kept mostly dry and dark, but not cold. I've been playing around with micro-doses of these here and there over the year. The other day I dosed an aprox. 30µg slice of blotter, and it had what I reckon is the same level of threshold activity that I noticed about a year ago when these tabs were brand new.

I think AL-LAD is pretty stable if it's kept dry and in the dark. There was talk some time ago that this molecule is fragile and more prone to degradation than LSD, but as far as I can tell there's nothing in particular to worry about with AL-LAD. Let's hope the same goes for ETH-LAD!
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Have to concur, had AL-LAD stored in an airtight container in the dark at room temperature (which sometimes translates to over 30C in this neck of the woods in the summer) for two years. Recently took a tab, still the same old.
 
Mine still seem to be doing quite alright..

This time AL-LAD had the CAPS on! =D

1 and then 0,5 tab an hour later let my 'museum dose' while fishing quite unexpectedly evolve into a rupturing ++++

Perhaps it was the lack of external stimuli that triggered this, (it was dark, looking at blackness off still water in front) but this one hit me good and hard.. I dont know if you can trip harder.. (probably :)) So a plus 5 seems a bit definitive but effects in order of appearrance:

-starting with very heavy blurry fractalesque oev
-time dillation
-rite of passage type associations
-becoming one with your environment
I remember showing off a bit (due to previous association) walking home quite fast over a very narrow sidewalk while dodging various objects, while ablaze... At times only seeing me seperating the road on my left which became white and void with orange and purple plumes of energy on my right, it was like a wind tunnel smoke flaming effect with on my right these plumes of energy and void and me walking like some sort of cord dancer half eveporating on the edge of an abyss.. At times only experiencing this or actively moving trough various states of being that were sometimes visable as bright glowing orange/red particles entering me it looked quite spectacular and felt amazing...
-feelings of interdependant opposites
-conceptual thinking very cool but need to think this experience over to put into words.
-level 8A geometry
Experiencing this for the first time could be a bit creepy as it felt like an intelligence that was evaluating or testing me other than my thoughts triggerring this, so I was overthinking my responses..

By thinking it didn't matter anyway as this was clearly some cosmic event :) and my petty thoughts would hardly matter now, so I should just enjoy it.. (by then safe at home) I would let go and it would evolve into a total dissolution of self into a fractal vortex often consisting of 4 equal parts of various imagery, sometimes holy men or sometimes conceptual particles swirling into one ness. Like being drained upwards..

Looking back it's pretty cool how you can steer the character and intensity with thought and some of these things are so funny now.
I've never had such intensity or control before with other materials, and 1 tab of AL-LAD didn't produce any visuals for me the first time I tried it and only lasted 4 hours this time 5/6 hours with a small redose at the end (100mcg which was a bit of a waste) so it tailed out at 10 hours

Are these effects common at an initial dose of 225mcg and something you can reproduce and improve upon with more experience?
 
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I've got to get some of this stuff....the more I hear about it te more I think it would be right up my alley

Other than I'm sure it wouldn't last long enough....my metabolism is speedy and psychs never last very long for me....when they say something lasts 4-6 hours I'm always on the 4 hour end....in fact normally I'd be dead sober in 4 hours like with a 4 substituted trypt....I'm dead sober in 4 hours
 
I was at a wedding this past weekend. The booze dried up pretty early so I ran to the car and grabbed a few tabs for myself and my friends. We took them and had an absolute blast. After the wedding was over (just as I was peaking) we went to the casino at the hotel we were staying at. We all played craps until about 3 am. I was able to play coherently and won about a hundred bucks.

It was an absolute blast tripping while gambling with a big group of your friends. For the most part, people just thought we were drunk (although I was a bit sweaty and my pupils were huge).

All the lights and noises from the casino were a trip for sure. It was hilarious. Another amazing experience with an amazing substance.
 
lamanogaucha said:
That's possible, Kishka, but I've noticed that you've been tripping too frequently these last few months. You might have developed significant tolerance; the benzos won't help either. I suggest that you take a break for at least one month.
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Hi,

Ok so it was probably due to tolerance and Benzo now!

I tried AL-LAD again 4 days ago, 150µg without any benzo in my system and almost had a bad trip on it!

It was CLEARLY active, I experienced scary thought loops and mind blowing music distortion aswell.

Trip lasted 9 hours and even strong visuals !

Still clearly active, was my own fault !

Even got me by surprise, I was overwhelmed during the comeup and kind of lost my shit, I had to go to tripsit.me to have some help :)

Good stuff btw !

PS : The tabs was from July 2013 so it's still potent as before
 
I'm glad to hear that your AL-LAD is still good. I was pretty sure that the issue was tolerance and the benzos, so thank you for confirming it. Both will sneak up on you quickly. The result of that is dulled trips. Some people say that this isn't so for them, but that's because they're used to their trips being less than what they could be. They're missing out on the full potential -- good and bad -- of what these substances can do.

I suggest that you carefully taper off the benzos (if you're still taking them), and instead, have them around for emergencies only (i.e. panic attacks, or to calm down an unbearably negative trip). That way, you'll understand the full effects profile of each and every psychedelic -- physical, and most importantly, psychological. One of the most rewarding things about psychedelics is the challenge to have to mentally resolve difficult experiences. Such experiences, if successfully dealt with, often (almost always, in fact) build psychological fortitude, and therefore, character -- this can empower you "in real life". It's all in the mind, after all. Meanwhile, they can also lead to excellent introspection, problem solving, and even breakthroughs. Tolerance and benzos decrease that potential.

Alright, I have to go now, but have a good night, Kishka. Catch you later...
 
Yeah I must say it was challenging, I know now why I thought AL-LAD was only visual and no mental, it's because I was taking Etizolam or Diazepam before the trip so I only had the visuals. But damn without them, I had plenty of mental effects and I was not used to it... It was overwhelming.

AL-LAD is deep, not to be underestimated.
 
I noticed some confusion with this stuff @ 300mcgs...

Went to use the microwave and entered in some arbitrary amount of time (like over 10 minutes) when it only needed 20 seconds.. thankfully I caught myself but it made me more aware of the 'mental fog' this stuff has versus regular L.

Regular L, to me IME, has a crystal clear mindstate where focusing is not a problem at all.
 
however, I haven't experienced anything Kishka has felt.. this stuff is incredibly gentle and forgiving.. amazing visuals
 
Kishka said:
Yeah I must say it was challenging, I know now why I thought AL-LAD was only visual and no mental, it's because I was taking Etizolam or Diazepam before the trip so I only had the visuals. But damn without them, I had plenty of mental effects and I was not used to it... It was overwhelming.

AL-LAD is deep, not to be underestimated.
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Perhaps a tolerance break would be beneficial? In my experience, AL-LAD is the easiest psych on the mind (easier for me than THC). But with anything, if you start pushing it, it can bite back.
 
Tried 150ug of this last week and I'll be taking the same amount tomorrow. Would there be any contraindication in using a small dose of 4-aco-DMT after 7 or 8 hours, when the effects have mostly worn off? Thanks for any help with this question :)
 
No contraindications, but you might not get much psychedelic effects by that point because of tolerance (or you might still, not sure). It will keep you up a lot longer. The most likely scenario I imagine is that you'll get a tiny extra psychedelic boost and be up for an extra 4-6 hours.
 
Hey guys...just wanted to ask if anyone has had the symptoms of or sensations of overheating on AL-lad ...the last time my friends and I did it we all had this problem at the latter portion of te experience...maybe the last two or three hours ...I took 150 my friend D took 150 and my friend T took 300 . T was the worst off...he had to lie down ad was pouring beads of sweat on his face..these are te darker grey in color tabs acquired from THE vendor we all know in 2014 February ...please let me know if anyone ha these worrisome aymptoms as it made me not want to experiment with it again...if so what can Ido to combat this issue? Ice packs? Lots of water? Thanks :)
 
al-laddin said:
Hey guys...just wanted to ask if anyone has had the symptoms of or sensations of overheating on AL-lad ...the last time my friends and I did it we all had this problem at the latter portion of te experience...maybe the last two or three hours ...I took 150 my friend D took 150 and my friend T took 300 . T was the worst off...he had to lie down ad was pouring beads of sweat on his face..these are te darker grey in color tabs acquired from THE vendor we all know in 2014 February ...please let me know if anyone ha these worrisome aymptoms as it made me not want to experiment with it again...if so what can Ido to combat this issue? Ice packs? Lots of water? Thanks :)
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I did, but I never had beads of sweat, but I was warm. It could be like this for some people, another reason to titrate accordingly. What does one do if they think they are overheating anyways?
 
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