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Lysergamides The Big & Dandy AL-LAD Thread - Part 3

waferz said:
When i took 300mcg, I couldn't count five dollar in my hand. It was pretty embarassing, but a funny story in the end.
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Losing the ability to identify common things like numbers is always a funny part of tripping. I remember once at a low dose of LAD I had to stop playing poker with my friends because I had to keep asking someone "what number is this?" on the cards!
 
Just for the record, I've had a bunch of AL-LAD that I bought in 2013, exactly two years ago. I've been faithful in storing it, and for those wondering how it would fare, if stored properly, let's just say very well. I took 450 mics the other night and I don't think it has lost any potency at all. It was quite a night. And, I had a slight bit of tolerance, perhaps, from a 400 mic experience with 1p-LSD 5 days previous. Just reporting back for those that may be curious about its stability. In other words...it's pretty damn stable up to this point, which makes me happy since I have about 50 more tabs of it. I also have about 50 of LSZ which I also got around the same time, and I'll test fire that in the coming months. Same storage methods, same vendor, and I know it was good when I put it where it as in 2013. Also, I really dug the 1p LSD, althought that shit lasts a LONG time. In fact, I took it at 4 pm and even at 3 am, I was having light visuals and some stimmy effects. Only with 30 mgs of Valium did I get to sleep about 5 am the following day. Felt great the next day though! If possible, I'll grab a sheet of the 1p for good measure... ;)
 
The term "proper", when it comes to lysergamides can be extremely subjective, given that some people will store them in airtight containers in a cool, dark place, and consider this "proper" storage. While others will store it them in freezers with certain gases to totally make sure no degradation occurs and consider that "proper". Care to elaborate?
 
Ha! It's funny a'cuz I've had a tab and a half 'on deck' for about a month and a half. Last night, I was antsy for a trip, but really wanted a body buzz. I decided to pop the half tab (75ug), and see where it got me. Well an hour later grocery shopping with my wife, I finally felt something (probably because I remembered it). It was that DMZ of intoxication, the middle ground; I was unsatisfied and muddied the waters with 50 mg of so-so cocaine and 15mgs oxycontin. Had a gin and limeade with dinner which I wasn't really hungry for.
Followed by coitus (no issues with functionality, just a little numb, outlying goal).But my point or discovery was that my horribly improperly stored for a month plus al-lad was as potent as I would expect my properly stored stuff. I however am kind of tired of half dosing trying to make substances last. I'm not saying I'll overboard, but no more pussy footing. Also, I took a zolpidem to help me sleep which it did not.

Timeline:
Al-lad @ 3:00p
Oxy @ 5:00
Drink @ 6:30
Coke @ 7:04
Intimate from 7:25-->8:??
Zolp @ 8:45

Awoke at 11, 12, 2, 3, 4 for work.
 
If you look at past posts of mine, you'll see how I store my gear. Do a search of my posts...

It makes me glad I have both LSZ and AL-LAD in storage. I bought 100 of AL and 50 of LSZ a year ago after trying a smaller quantity. I still have about 80+ al and 45 LSZ in amber vials, with a dessicant and O2 absorbers for overkill, even though I open and re-purge the gas-tight container with Argon every couple of months. And for the record, they have held up well. A couple of weeks ago I popped 300 of AL and got slammed pretty hard. I also did 300, then 450 of the LSZ several months ago, and they were totally active, with no seeming loss of potency. I have had them stored this way from the day I took them out of the vaccumed mylar, and seems to be working out well. And just as an FYI, I have gotten MUCH better results with higher doses of LSZ. 150 was to weak, 300 really nice, and 450 very similar to the mother compound. I also found out that doing LSZ seems WAY better while outside or at a concert venue. The inside just seems "off" for some reason. AL, however, is really my new favorites psych, having been a huge lover and consumer of LSD, which is hard for me to get now. Used to be easy, but I just don't have the hook-ups at my age.
 
Been a while since I haven't see this page in front page, what's up with the AL-LAD(in) ? :)

Plan to take some tonight ! :D
 
Shame this became illegal in UK before I really got to try it out this summer some nice times but not enough any uk al lad lovers like 1p-lsd too?
 
So I've finally researched this a number of times with dosages ranging from allergy-test on up to 300 mcg. So far, I agree with most experiences regarding clear-headedness and gentleness, but there's no way it's more visual than LSD - at least up to 300mcg for me, ymmv. I still plan on either a 450-600mcg dose whenever time will allow. As far as the visuals, I thought they were a little unique in that I experienced ribbons of color/light kind of shooting across my field of vision. And I didn't get much in the way of stimulation, maybe some minor stimulation - and I'm very sensitive to stims. One other thing is that I experienced a nice internal tryptamine vibration torwards the end of the trip - very nice stuff, can't wait to combo this with some quality L or ETH-LAD!!
 
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I took 225µg of AL-LAD 3 hours ago and I feel nothing :(

I ate some food 4 hours ago and took 1.5mg Pyrazolam at 4PM today.

Do you think the Pyrazolam dull the trip completely because it have a long half life ?

I'm very disappointed !
 
That's possible, Kishka, but I've noticed that you've been tripping too frequently these last few months. You might have developed significant tolerance; the benzos won't help either. I suggest that you take a break for at least one month.
 
Second experiment, with 6 months of no hallucinogens to completely reset tolerance...

300mcg. Oral, not sublingual.
26 year old male
Very experienced psych user (hundreds of shrooms and L trips)

Exact same reaction as my first time. My body loves this stuff, it comes on so gentle and light. After 30 minutes, I felt a light sensation feeling in my chest and throughout my body. It barely grows, but the visuals get fast starting around an hour. This stuff takes time to get going, literally an hour it really starts. Some things I noted during the trip... this trip was definitely weaker and slightly less visual than my first experiment. I blame the food I had in my stomach. The first experiment (same dose, 300) was consumed on an empty stomach with a clean GI tract, right in the morning. The visuals were AWESOME. This time the visuals were slower to get going an didn't really hit the movement level that they did the first time. Again, no tolerance and I hadn't had a benzo for weeks.

Conclusions:
Eat light before this stuff. Like soup or salad light. And not eating is the best, or letting the food digest first. I just imagine it in my stomach getting stuck in the mashed up wad of digesting food.. its just not ideal scenario if you want maximum absorption of this chemical. Which i do.

And.. this stuff is definitely shallow. When people complain about the lack of a spiritual component (i use that lightly, i am an atheist and not spiritual at all).... People are correct when they say this. It is pure eye candy. I can't imagine what three hits would be like (450mcg). And I would never take four (600). Fuck that.

At the end of the day, I would eat this over LSD every single time. It is 5x more smooth on my body although their is some mental confusion on it. Good clean L doesn't confuse me at all and I can think extremely clear.
 
Kishka said:
I took 225µg of AL-LAD 3 hours ago and I feel nothing :(

I ate some food 4 hours ago and took 1.5mg Pyrazolam at 4PM today.

Do you think the Pyrazolam dull the trip completely because it have a long half life ?

I'm very disappointed !
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I believe how benzos can weaken a trip is really understated, IMO. I'm not even talking about the same day of the trip. In my experience I have noticed weakened effects if benzos had been taken within the past week. Theres cases in my town where kids getting really good WoW and then complaining its fake or they don't feel anything. The thing is, they were taking klonopin.

You simply cannot trip and get off the correct way while on a benzo, unfortunately it is just impossible. Also they stay in the system really long I think thats why the weakening of effects can happen even after days of not taking them.
 
@ waferz: I agree regarding the benzos. That's what I mentioned to Kishka a couple of posts above yours, but got not response. Some of these drugs have a rather short half-life, but some don't -- the longer the half-life, the more the substance will interfere with psychedelic action. This is especially apparent if benzos are taken on a regular basis, and even more so if psychedelics are taken more than once per week.
 
Thats actually not the case for everyone. I personally don't find benzos do much more than remove my aniexty and change the trip slightly but don't really dull it. I've seen others say similar things too. It's definitely not the norm but....

From what I remember, Pyrazolam isn't that potent and has a short half life. Also that it's a pretty basic anxiolytic. You would have definitely at least felt something from 225ug of AL-LAD.
 
Like you said, it's not the norm, but... different metabolisms result in different effects. As for Kishka, if her metabolism is in your group, then we can chuck it to either too much tolerance or degraded AL-LAD. I bet that the former was the culprit, but we won't know until she tries more, after a period of abstinence, from the same batch. The bottom line is that 225ug of AL-LAD should yield, at the very least, a rock solid ++ in nearly all cases.
 
Yup, I think it was probably a tolerance issue. I will try it again in a few days and see how it works. Normally it's not degraded, i tend to be over maniac about this :)
 
Seriously, any one taking AL-LAD, 1-P-LSD, ETH-LAD dosed on premade blotters have absolutely no idea how much they are taking.

The blotters aren't evenly laid, even on the same sheet. That's the whole point. Two adjacent blotters can easily absorb a 50-100 ug difference by accident. In my opinion. It's very small quantities we are talking about here, and you would need to spray it on, or place single drops with a micropipette to get totally exact doses per blotter. Using soaking, which must be how the official blotters are laid as it's the only viable method for massproduction, will always cause hot/weak spots.

I am completely sure that if you have the powder, and use a laboratory grade ug scale and volumetric dosing, then you won't get as big a variability in potency as people are finding with these novel lysergamides. Obviously, set, setting and internal body chemistry is also factors, but uneven distribution is in my opinion the biggest culprit.

Don't get me wrong, most of the blotters are approxemately the same strength, but some are clearly weaker, and some clearly stronger, even on the same sheet.
 
@ Kishka - My Magic 8-Ball said "outlook good"! Don't forget to come back to tell us how it went!

@ Bassoon - In your opinion, is that the norm or the exception?

@ Everyone - It's extremely important to stress that buyers of lysergamide powder must use a professional microgram scale, a professional micropipette, gloves, goggles, and a PM2.5 mask.
 
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